Heavyarms Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 This topic is a serious matter, and it is a serious matter for Americans, which I do believe are a nice portion of the people in this forum. These soldiers just put their lives on the line for me. I think I can talk about them if I want, because they are important to some people, and not to others. I got my right of freedom of speech, and I'm going to use it to its full extent. If, however, the mods and everyone else believes is such, and I propose this- the banning of all Iraq talk from this forum, and this entire board. Just because others don't like what a group are talking about does not mean things should be changed, but if it does, I suggest its complete banning. HA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Eh.. I don't know how to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Homer Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 We're not protesting the threads...we're protesting the continued creation of threads on Iraq and the war that all have the same arguments and degrade quickly into the same flame wars. If one thread is maintained & no one gets too far out of line, I don't see a reason to ban it. But so far, that hasn't happened. Creating multiple threads on the same topic is not allowed. Flaming other members is not allowed. Yet somehow both were allowed when it came to the war. If you have valid points, make them, but don't post just to blast someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavyarms Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 Oh, I beg to differ. Most are NOT on the same thing, at least the ones I have created. I am trying to make my point across, because someone RUDELY deleted my other opinion in the other thread. That's why I made this thread. Because my opinion wasn't respected in the other. It's my country, I can post as many threads as I want, and to prove it, I got my freedom of speech. I can talk about it and create as many threads no this war. It is important, and maybe more than one thread can be made on the topic, hmm? But I guess I'm asking too much, ya know, I guess some people can't just have something change, I guess everything must stay the same. A big debate comes out: OH MY GOD! I don't like it! Let's get rid of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tie Guy Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Well, while i do think there are way too many Iraq threads and i really wouldn't mind if all talk of it were banned, i don't think it's necessary as long as people of the board use discretion in creating new topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI_MASTA Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 everything in moderation :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygomaticus Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 The problem, I feel, with these Iraq thread is that it's creating an atmosphere of animosity among the forummers. People are becoming enemies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 well... there are a few forumers with some extreme opinions which arent exactly well liked... that's what's making some people mad. making valid arguements is different from making baseless claims and accusations. Not to mention some posts are mysteriously being removed, and threads closed... debate is healthy... but i went off on some idiot in the GD forum who was hoping saddam commited genocide on the allied troops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygomaticus Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Originally posted by pbguy1211 well... there are a few forumers with some extreme opinions which arent exactly well liked... that's what's making some people mad. making valid arguements is different from making baseless claims and accusations. Not to mention some posts are mysteriously being removed, and threads closed... debate is healthy... but i went off on some idiot in the GD forum who was hoping saddam commited genocide on the allied troops... If that person was an Iraqi wouldn't his opinion be as valid as your's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artoo Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 *ignores thread for sheer idiocy* As long as no one posts in them, I feel no compulsion to reply to them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Originally posted by krkode If that person was an Iraqi wouldn't his opinion be as valid as your's? possibly, depends on the arguement. he however, was austrailian... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 I personally avoid all Iraq threads because I have no desire to insult someone or be insulted because of differing beliefs. I trust the forum-goers of this board to moderate themselves and use discretion in their discussion. As long as they can do that, the threads will remain open. This is not the Swamp. This is not RSN. Personally, I hold GB to a higher level than I do most forums. I don't want anyone to feel like they've been censored or persecuted because of what they believe. In other words, I don't think the banning of threads discussing war is necessary, but I'll go out of my way from now on to check them. Once again, everyone. Please use discretion and proper judgement when you post. Just before you hit the "Submit Reply" button, make sure your post is well thought out and not simply some flammatory barb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young David Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 First of all, this is not an American forum. Our member come from around the world not because they like America or the english language so much, but because they like the games from Lucasarts ... With that in mind I think we should keep away from too many country orientated discussions. For the last year dutch politics were very interesting. We have seen a politician murdered, we've seen a government collapse twice and lots of other things. Very little were these things discussed here ... whu not. This is not the place for that because we only have 4 dutch people here and even those do not always want to talk about such things. Now the war is ofcourse international. American an English people are fighting there and the rest of the world is watching (Yes ... me too) And ofcourse people want to talk about it, but not everybody. People's opinion have been heard, some opinions are not accepted, other people are insulted and the forum is flooded with the same topic over and over again. Your posts in my thread were deleted. I requested that. You didn't seem to understand that I'm tired of those debates. The topic wasn't about the war, it was about the threads about the war. I think that we should use our senate forum again an extension of out off-topic or maybe as a subforum of our off-topic (right under the rpg). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavyarms Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 too bad my first post was actually just some opposition. Can't stand opposition, can you? Then don't go to them, huh? Sounds good to me. If you don't want to see them, then make sure you tell the mods my original plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tie Guy Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 The problem with people just not going to threads is that it's easier said than done. To tell the truth (as hard as it may be to believe), i really don't like debating these things on the boards. I am, by nature, very nonconfrontational and low key, and i don't feel like that is portrayed in these debates. I always get the feeling that people think i'm angry and mad at them when i'm not, and that people think i'm yelling at my moniter when if i were actually speaking it would be more calm. That being said, i can't just ignore the debate threads. I can't let people stand up and preach rhetoric and try to convince people of what i believe is wrong without intervening. I'm not going to stand to have my morals (in the case of abortion etc.) or my political views and sense of justice (in the case of war) challenged openly. I have to say something in my own defense or i am denying what i believe in. After all, what good are values and morals if you aren't willing to stand up for them? The only time i leave a debate or do not participate therefore, is when it degrades into either the same arguments over and over and over or it turns into pure and simple flaming/bashing, both of which unfortunately happen far too often it seems. It really can't be up to people not to read threads or participate in debates (for how can you acquiesce the opposition to your values?) but up to the members not to create so many debates. We've talked about everything there is to say on the war (several times it seems), so why should people go around and create new ones? Even if the thread is slightly different, we all know it eventually will degenerate into the same arguments seen countless times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Mods have a problem with flaming. When a Iraq thread turns into a flaming war then we(not really me I have no powers here ) close them. The sad thing is that most end up flame wars because people feel so strongly about the topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 hell, a lot of the flaming comes from outright lies from the people beinh flamed. you know how many mis-truths are spoken here on these boards that are claimed as true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 "This ought to go over like a fart in a diving helmet." _obi-wan13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another_trooper Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Originally posted by Darth Groovy "This ought to go over like a fart in a diving helmet." _obi-wan13 Couldnt agree more! When does he say that anyway? BTW people stop making iraq threads, we all no its important but off topic isnt supposed to be all about war, theres like 10 threads about it in the first half of the page, make new interresting threads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygomaticus Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Originally posted by another_trooper Couldnt agree more! When does he say that anyway? Obi-Wan13 is a person on the forums, not the Obi Wan from the movies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 well, there's now an off-topic senate subforum. If you're gonna post stuff about the War postit in here, the next person to make an "Iraq [insert crap here] [insert more crap]!!!!" thread is not gonna make me too happy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Oh my god. *hits head* People can post whatever threads the forums rules allow, obviously. Its not really your say, or mine. I am for the war in Iraq, and that is my worthless opinion. Its just words. The war kinda is no ones buisness but Iraq, The U.S. and our allies. *shrug* This topic is completley worthless. I will say no more about my views, because no one out of the U.S. or even in will listen to me. Whatever. Believe whatever your media wants you too. Matter a fact, just move to Iraq!!! Have fun!!! *begins to dance around singing and hits head on the ceiling* oh yea, and "This ought to go over like a fart in a diving helmet." _obi-wan13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TieDefender75 Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Just calm down people. HD, all we are saying is that you should make one general thread on iraq where people can discuss anything about it. One gigantic thread like "tell you i will". I havent been here in a while and im not sure what happened while i was away, but please take this suggestion into consideration. I am only trying to make peace. I am not trying to take away your rights, its just that the threads begin to take up space. BTW, hello again people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.