waffleman Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Ok, im just curious and not in anyway supporting the illegal passing out of beta disks. but im really interested on how Lucas Arts makes sure this isnt going on. i mean sure, you sign a contract but you do that every time you turn on windows. Other than the threats of death, torture, and dimemberment, what can they do since playing the game that has been passed out illagly isnt illegal, only the distrobution is forbidon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnfrozenCaveman Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Hmm, well i guess it doesn't matter as long as you can sleep at night right? Maybe, if they log on and then see that you use the same key coded disc later at a different IP then they'll say, "Yo foo wazzz up wit dat." And then they'll be on your ass like a pack of dogs on a three legged cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffleman Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 I would love to be one of the cops/cia/fbi going to "his" house at 3:00 in the morn and pulling out of bed and yelling "Wassup foo, George Lucas is going to personaly freeze your @$$ into some carbonite and sell you to the highest bidder, so kiss your mama bye bye punk!" Ok, maybe not quite like that but busting someone would be fun. especially for stealing a game! Nothing like going to prison for 5-8 yrs for inpatiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evad Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 I would imagine that they could catch you the way UnfrozenCaveman said, by monitoring your IP. However, I do believe that the beta cd keys are consumable, that is, once you activate your beta account, that cd key is "eaten up" and is no longer usable, so if you did rip the cd and give it to someone else, they would have to sit and try to guess up a cd key that hasn't been consumed yet.. which, in my opinion, might take a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrabbit Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 "What ya in for?" "...er...breaking the NDA." "Woa, you badass man!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffleman Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 " Thats real cool man breaking into NDA. I had a friend once who tried to break into the National Defense Agency too, never saw him again" "NOT THAT NDA!! Stupid Jailmate named bubba" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 Only one IP can be logged in with the same beta key at the same time. Just as only one IP can be logged in with the same key once the game goes retail. So, if you spread your key, then it is a big chance that you can't log in because someone is using your key! That is a rather big reason not to give away your key, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little brother Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 Well if your cheap like me... You and maybe a couple of your friends could split the monthly charge and the cd/key and set up a schedule for what times you play during the week. This way I get away with paying only 3 dollars a month and still get equal game time. Seeing I dont sit on the machine all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffleman Posted May 1, 2003 Author Share Posted May 1, 2003 What we are refering too is the beta, ya know, the game before it gets released publicly to select few who test it out. I hope your not splitting that!! Or big brother will have a few unplesant words, and legal actions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Badass Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 I do not know what it could be used for, but in D2 I could log into my account twice at the same time and just Hell rush all my new characters for free. No point in SWG, since I do not believe there is much you could do by logging in twice. (Oh, and by the way Sunshine. You cannot log in twice with the same account. And if you did: Only one character.) But then riddle me this, my alternate self: What if I unlocked the FS slot and could protect myself with a stronger character while I trained my Jedi at the same time? Huh? What of that? Yeah? Yeah? (I know it cannot be done. Thank the gods. :D ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swediot=) Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 how do you know?? you dont know everything do you? if you do..... what flavour juice am i drinking right *picks up glass* now?? gulp gulp gulp aaaaaahh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kai 3 Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 it's very possible. for example with the warcraft 3 beta people with the resources set up their own servers for people to play the beta on...servers that obviously would then require no cd key. it takes time and the right crowd to get to that point but it is very possible. I remember waiting up all night and at about 6-8 am the first working server ip was released most of the time was spent cracking/reprograming the beta for all this to actually work. the absolute worst blizzard was able to do was....nothing. oh well they could try and legally bring down the servers but by then the actual game would be released and it wouldn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 That is irrelevant. You can't make your own servers with SWG. You simply don't have the server side of the game, only the client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 And if you did have the server you would need a pc like bill gates to run this game as its going to be so demanding for the server side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Badass Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Well since your IP is logged by the servers, and GM's are monitoring the logs... Do you not think that two identical IP addresses at the same time on the same server would put up at least a brightly colored red beacon of investigation and the sueing of your hind maintenance? (In other words: Two IP's on the same server at the same time equals one bad day for you.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Originally posted by Evad However, I do believe that the beta cd keys are consumable, that is, once you activate your beta account, that cd key is "eaten up" and is no longer usable, so if you did rip the cd and give it to someone else, they would have to sit and try to guess up a cd key that hasn't been consumed yet.. which, in my opinion, might take a while. There are lots of high end programs with hacks already Windows XP for example. Almost every popular game has a hack so when a person burns the game they have to have a CD key just the same. The Hacks I'm referring to are CD Key hacks. A small program that figures out possible CD Keys at random. If someone was inventive enough they could get the code and make a hack for it that would pop out random working CD Keys for SWG assuming they don't moniter the keys some way. The CD Key could be used until someone actuly was issued that CD key. Than they would call complain and be given a new one and yours would be canceled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I expect that they will be very tight about keycode's they make a copy of a game they released a keycode you got to activate it within a week if you don't they cancel it or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 So all the games that set on the shelves at release are going to have bad CD Keys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Badass Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 It is better to assume he is speaking of teh Beta. If you do not activate teh beta within a week the CD key may be discontinued, possibly to prevent tinkering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 oh ok..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 And Cosmos Jack, MMORPG's do have a total control of their CD Keys. After all, you use it every time you log in, not just only when you install the product, as in the case of Windows. So no, your cracking skillz will help you about nil when it comes to SWG. And the CD Keys in the packages are not activated until they are linked to a credit card number, making it even harder. But yeah, if you are clever(?) and have the proper hack, you can pay exactly the same amount of money per month to play with a CD key that isn't sold yet (remember, a cd key won't let you play, only a cd key connected with a credit card number. So you still have to pay). Until someone buy the box, and you get a big lawsuit from SOE on your ass. And you can forget about ever playing SWG again. Now, why anyone would do this instead of buying the game, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Badass Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 It adds a certain element of challenge to the game. Plus, if you are lonely, you can expect some nice men and women to politely push your door down and be your mystical, magical friends. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 Originally posted by Sunshine Badass It adds a certain element of challenge to the game. Plus, if you are lonely, you can expect some nice men and women to politely push your door down and be your mystical, magical friends. :D Damm well they ain't comming in my house not that they'll be able to fit with all my pizza box's everywhere from me playing SWG 24/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Spaso Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Originally posted by waffleman Ok, im just curious and not in anyway supporting the illegal passing out of beta disks. but im really interested on how Lucas Arts makes sure this isnt going on. i mean sure, you sign a contract but you do that every time you turn on windows. Other than the threats of death, torture, and dimemberment, what can they do since playing the game that has been passed out illagly isnt illegal, only the distrobution is forbidon. cd keys probably has a big part in keeping the redistribution of beta disc down and they most likely have a list of all the beta testers and the accounts that they will be using..........(this is just all speculation and what i believe is common sense:)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Originally posted by Kaiser Spaso cd keys probably has a big part in keeping the redistribution of beta disc down and they most likely have a list of all the beta testers and the accounts that they will be using..........(this is just all speculation and what i believe is common sense:)) Like i said they will keep record's of all cd key's out log all account's by pc records:) Probally get staff to check recrod's all the time duplicate key code's being used etc That's why im keeping my Galxie's box in my safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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