ThunderPeel2001

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Precisely. The "intention" of the ending is the ending we got: Including all its ambiguities. Gilbert has made clear that the original idea of for the first game was that Guybrush was going to discover he was in a theme park as the story progressed... but that he abandoned that idea early on. He brought back a different version of the same idea for the ending of MI2 because they didn't have an ending. What we got was what was "intended"... And then REMI took it further, adding Boybrush to the mix.

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I guess I really don't follow you then, because you seem to want to reveal some secret "intent" beyond what the games say, and beyond what Ron Gilbert has said?

Ha. Thanks. I have little to do this evening, so you got me... but it was interesting to think about.

Which interviews? For example (taking another fiction for a moment), I think Ridley Scott is full of shit when he says Deckard is a replicant (and so does the screenwriter and lead actor, incidentally). The movie itself leaves it ambiguous... so which is right? The director? The actor? The screenwriter? Or the movie? (Answer: Art speaks for itself.) And even in this case, Ron Gilbert says he doesn't want his interpretation to overshadow the player's... In fact, I don't even know if these two interview answers are actually contradictory... 1999 interview: 2023 interview: So I don't know how anyone can say a Ron Gilbert interview on interpretation could be canon, when he himself doesn't want his view to be canon.

Hmm. Firstly, interviews aren't canon, the games are. Sometimes directors claim things about their films, but in the end, it's the films that speak for themselves, not the director's intentions. So whatever Ron said in an interview about interpretation doesn't mean much (whether in 1999 or 2023)... especially when he's said he doesn't want to impose his interpretation (which is why ReMI has multiple endings). So, not meaning to sound reductive, but the intention of the ending of MI2 was... the ending of MI2 that was released. If you discount, ignore or reduce specific elements of that ending because you don't like them, then you're engaging in cognitive bias: "The bits I agree with/like are important... the bits I don't, are not." So the intention was, in a very literal sense, everything we saw. Contradictory bits and all. And Ron has even spoken about how he came up with the ending: It was very late in production and he didn't know how to end the game. As Jake said, I don't think there was some major plan. There was an idea and MI2's ending was how that idea was executed. So I don't think there needs to be an expedition to dig much deeper than that... I feel Ron has been absolutely clear, especially with the ending to Return to Monkey Island. So, yes, it's clear that Ron's original idea was: It's was a fantasy in a theme park. It's been confirmed (most importantly) in Return to Monkey Island itself. But the execution of that idea, in MI2's ending, inserted ambiguity. Not by accident, but deliberately. That ambiguity is now canon and is what was "originally intended". And Return to Monkey Island again deliberately allows the player to choose how to interpret the whole ambiguous situation... Am I missing something?

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Not sure I follow this, but my understanding (from the plaque in ReMI) is that the "it's a theme park" was the "original" secret, and that basic idea was expanded on to become the nostalgic Boybrush explanation in ReMI.

Are you forgetting Elaine's line (that was missing from the Amiga version)? null

Eh? First I've ever heard he left before he finished the game... 🤨 ReMI confirmed that the original "Secret" was that Guybrush was in a theme park all a long. There's literally a plaque on the wall stating this... right? (Not played it since it first came out)

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What fangame database? 🤔

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