Elijah Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 I havnt been paying attention to HL2... but perhaps them waiting 4 monts longer might make it that much better eh? (trying to be optimistic here...) Anyways, they've been working on this for 5 years?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertogJan Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 They've been working on it for 4, 5 years or so, yes, but only on the Source engine The game itself has been worked on for say 1,5 years now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 I've always had a small admiration for hackers, probably from watchin war games as a kid. Hacking the pentagon and the FBI is cool and all, but now they have gone too far and p*****d me off! Realistically, they have to re-write a lot of the Source engine, otherwise they will never be able to sell it if developers don't think it will be secure. The Vivendi guy was on CNN as well, wasn't he? Unfortunately, whenever there are 2 dates floating around for a computer game it is ALWAYS the second one that turns out to be true, if not one later than that. Im not getting my hopes up for a release this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by toms Hacking the pentagon and the FBI is cool and all, but now they have gone too far and p*****d me off! Let me get this right, its cool to hack the pentagon and the FBI, but when you "cross the line" and hack a game, them it turns bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Yes, it certainly seems that not only did the hackers make off with enough of the assets to put something together...they also obtained a beta version of the game. Things are just going from bad to worse for Valve. As I said before, this has seriously damaged their reputation. Who is going to trust them in future with their own assets, like the physics engine stuff? Personally, I really don't want to see the game released now, until they can go back into the guts of the engine and ensure there is no potential for security hacks. The last thing I want is giving someone a backdoor to my PC via playing a game. So I hope it is delayed until April 2004 - at least that gives them more of a chance to revise code. If they release it in a month, I will definitely not purchase it. I would leave it a few months to see if anyone's PC got hacked... I'm sure other gamers will be feeling the same way. I think it's in Valve's best interests to delay the release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 I have no idea about how this code works but.... If they have to redo the code. Is there a chance the awsome engine they have will be made worse? Or can they get it the same, if not better, by redoing it. Or is it a simple case of renaming a few commands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertogJan Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 I don't know what the security fuzz is about People are scared now, because they will make cheats etc etc... Betas were leaked for other games too you know, but I didn't hear anyone complain then Even Jedi Academy had a leaked beta, you did buy THAT game didn't you?!?! So I think they should target a december release, that is if the game is almost finished and just needs some polishing. From what I know of hl2 sites, some hackers said publicly that the game is like 80% done; in that case HL2 should take more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 This is not a leaked beta we're talking about. It is the SOURCE CODE. 1/3 of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertogJan Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 The ANON leaker/hacker (anonymous), has said in an undisclosed IRC channel and room that he will be releasing the Pre-Gold version of Valve's Half-Life 2 tomorrow with the 100% SourceCode. When asked why he will be releasing it so soon after the Beta he said "I suggested Valve to stop lying to their customers about how much was stolen. However, they disregarded my statement and called me a liar. But also (according to a Valve employee): There's no doubt that the E3 content has leaked out. But... well, let me just repaste my post from the SteamPowered forums: The anonymous hacker thief writeth once... To all those saying HL2 was delayed because of the hacking action, ill just remind you that what was leaked is what Valve has, nothing more and nothing less, so its pretty good to understand it wasnt finished yet. And also... Now they will see how much I have been lying when I release the Pre-Gold and all 100% of the sourcecode. Actions speak louder then words. Logic is a real conundrum sometimes, huh? Feel free to believe whoever you like. At this point... whatever. Well... There IS a beta of HL2 (while Valve said earlier there wasn't a beta!!) and now ANON says they will release a pre-gold complete version of the game soon... That isn't just 1/3 of the sourcecode But Rhett, I see what you mean, the source code should remain secret, but hey, Valve has lots of experience now with anti-cheat protection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokemaster Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Originally posted by HertogJan But Rhett, I see what you mean, the source code should remain secret, but hey, Valve has lots of experience now with anti-cheat protection... It's not only that, but the hacker could find a hole in security and hack your computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 I just got done extracting the beta..1.4gigs Sorry but I have to try it!! damn work though...will have to try it when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokemaster Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Originally posted by RoguePhotonic . OK, you sure you didn't get a virus? anyway, how does the manipulator work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 NO. -rhett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 - rhett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Why do I get the feeling someone will be banned? :tsk: Bastard. I have always thought you to be respectable, but now. Damn. I've lost faith in all humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 What's the big deal...I still plan to buy the game when it comes out...I just had to test it out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Doesn't matter. It's still illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 well it did answer many of our questions such as just how much of the code was taken. I guess the worst answer was given *cries* ;_; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Yes it did unfortunatly Look, Rogue, I might have done the same as you, especially if I had been waiting 5 years for a game to come out. Especially as revolutionary as that. But I wouldn't go posting about it on a public message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 thats sweet Rogue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Originally posted by Boba Rhett It's no joke. April 2004 or later. WTF?!?!? after 2004?>!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Rogue, you can't post that type of stuff here. It puts all of our asses on the line. Please think of our beautiful asses in the future before talking about things like this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 all my pics! lol Probably wont take long for lots of info to be on it anyway...where I got that they had 2 copies then at the end of the day they had about 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 In my opinion you still shouldnt obtain anything from theses guys who have hacked valve.... it just encourages them to keep doing it and that means unfortunately our games will get delayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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