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First of all, you dont own the server.

 

Second, It doesnt matter what rules, it could be everyone has to have the same model or you get banned, its thier server and they can do so.

 

Third, no laming rule will continue to the end of jk time, if you dont like it, dont play ffa.

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Originally posted by gaara

First of all, you dont own the server.

 

The servers we do own stay surprisingly honor nub-free. Probably because the sheer bulk of dishonorable play they attract sends the honor-nubs packing really fast. Only on a duel server does it have a place, only in the first bow.

 

Second, It doesnt matter what rules, it could be everyone has to have the same model or you get banned, its thier server and they can do so.

 

Uh...right. Our server rules make sense, to us, so we use them. I'm not going around trying to get limited by other admins...I carefully read those motd. Very few link to a website or have any rules specifics in them. In fact a lot of them barely have a MotD.

 

Third, no laming rule will continue to the end of jk time, if you dont like it, dont play ffa.

 

But "no laming" is such an amorphous accusation. It's like me suing you for "something." Unless a specification is made, laming can mean anything. Calling someone a lamer is fine if you can explain what he did that was lame.

 

I got called a lamer last night because someone punched me and I backslashed them. I killed four other people, who had their sabers down, who happened to be brilliant enough to be standing in the middle of the room where we were fighting. So I became a lamer for defending myself.

 

I don't know. A lot of what these people say won't fly in the real world...why should it fly in cyberspace?

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Originally posted by traj

Isnt the point of the internet/cyberspace to get away with **** that you cant get away with in the real world?

 

I dunno. If you happen to live in Connecticut and you commit a crime via cyberspace, I can still go and arrest you on probable cause, then build my chain of evidence to have you convicted.

 

Just wait until I'm a federal agent. ^-^

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Originally posted by ksk h2o

Ah it brings a tear to my eye to see so many old Promod Fellas in one thread bringng on the funny.

 

Luc seems like you're reviving the old ASC. Can't wait to see the players react the same way as the responses to this thread.

 

 

Yeah I feel the same way. I may have to add an ASC tag to my name. I still smile thinking about all the times I've shot people on powerduel servers. Or the time when I got kicked for "laming" If only Promod could come back....

 

Amidala's server reminds me alot of Promod though. What with the instant kills and all. I may have to take it upon myself to become the most feared bow/chatkiller in the GFFA. :fett:

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Ardent, lol was i talk to you directly? No

 

No i dont care about your servers,

No i was not even talking about you, and

Yes i realize your whole post there was basically

bragging about how good your servers are.

 

Im talking in general.

 

If you want to bring it into real life,

I'll bring it to real life also.

 

If you enter a house (server) with the owner (admin)

that is asian and he asks you to take off your shoes

before entering (a rule admin has made), would you?

Does he have that right? I guess so its HIS house (server).

 

Why would you call him a Stupid (noob) for making such a rule?

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Originally posted by gaara

If you want to bring it into real life,

I'll bring it to real life also.

 

If you enter a house (server) with the owner (admin)

that is asian and he asks you to take off your shoes

before entering (a rule admin has made), would you?

Does he have that right? I guess so its HIS house (server).

 

Why would you call him a Stupid (noob) for making such a rule?

 

We all agree that the server operators make the rules, and players should follow them or go elsewhere, no one is disagreeing with you!

 

But the problem is the opposite of what you stated. Imagine if the owner in your example above goes to other people's homes and starts yelling "Take off your shoes you f**king Caucasian, have you no manners?!!!!!" "Shoe wearer!!!" "Shoe wearer!!!" "Admin, kick him, he's wearing shoes!!" "Dammit you f**king Caucasian, don't you know shoes off = civilized?!!"

 

No one has a problem with people having "honor" rules on their own servers. The problem is they go to other servers like members of some religions and try to convert "the honorless" to their way of thinking by screaming and cursing about "honor" and "saber off = peace".

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Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop

We all agree that the server operators make the rules, and players should follow them or go elsewhere, no one is disagreeing with you!

 

But the problem is the opposite of what you stated. Imagine if the owner in your example above goes to other people's homes and starts yelling "Take off your shoes you f**king Caucasian, have you no manners?!!!!!" "Shoe wearer!!!" "Shoe wearer!!!" "Admin, kick him, he's wearing shoes!!" "Dammit you f**king Caucasian, don't you know shoes off = civilized?!!"

 

No one has a problem with people having "honor" rules on their own servers. The problem is they go to other servers like members of some religions and try to convert "the honorless" to their way of thinking by screaming and cursing about "honor" and "saber off = peace".

This is it in a nutshell.

 

Many players are trying to make the "honour" system universal on all servers. This, of course, is not going to work. The problem is only worsened by the overreaction of these players, using various offensive slurs. Flames lead to flames, and then honour and respect go right out the window...

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Rumor wrote:

oh we aren't whining. thats your job, remember?

Oh, I did? Mind telling me where? Can't? Too bad, maybe I didn't and you just made that one up?

 

You are either ignorant or you didn't understand my posts at all. I never said honor guys are right (as a matter of fact I dislike what they do as well and even stopped playing JO because of it). But unlike you I am not getting rude at someone who's trying to solve this problem rationally.

Some day you are going to understand that your reaction to this lamer problem isn't going to change anything. Or maybe you won't, but that's your problem.

 

Rumor wrote:

Game, Set, and Match. Thanks for playing.

Exactly. Let's talk again when you got to reason and want to discuss instead of just writing down your anger.

 

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traj wrote:

Isnt the point of the internet/cyberspace to get away with **** that you cant get away with in the real world?

No, that's definitely not the point. But all those users out there that believe this are what makes the internet the swamp it is. With everyone doing whatever he wants to (because he is not afraid of the consequences) no one cares about what others might think or feel. And that's the exact problem of all those lamers and "lamers" out there.

 

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Prime wrote:

The problem is only worsened by the overreaction of these players, using various offensive slurs. Flames lead to flames, and then honour and respect go right out the window...

I completely agree. If everyone would show just a tad of respect we wouldn't have most of the problems that bother us right now.

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Originally posted by gaara

If you enter a house (server) with the owner (admin)

that is asian and he asks you to take off your shoes

before entering (a rule admin has made), would you?

Does he have that right? I guess so its HIS house (server).

Why would you call him a Stupid (noob) for making such a rule?

 

You're like a guy who walks into a thread where people discuss how to cure cancer and (without reading a single post of the whole thread) say: "Idiots! Just like ummm..don't get cancer! There's the solution to your problem. Duh?!"

 

Please read the thread first. THEN post. :)

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Originally posted by gaara

 

Third, no laming rule will continue to the end of jk time, if you dont like it, dont play ffa.

 

And people like me will continue to beat the crap out of, and make fun of, people who take that nonsense too seriously.

 

;)

 

 

 

traj wrote:

Isnt the point of the internet/cyberspace to get away with **** that you cant get away with in the real world?

 

 

Computers are only good for two things:

 

free porno on demand

 

video games

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Originally posted by FK | unnamed

And people like me will continue to beat the crap out of, and make fun of, people who take that nonsense too seriously.

 

I've already had to deal with my fair share of ignorant twits tonight (thank god for FU/ORB, nominations for NotW are flowing like a keg of good beer), so I'm steamed out.

 

Regardless, the fact that a.) failure to maintain a higher composure/ettiquete as an admin, which results in the abuse of said commands, b.) people go beyond the set limits (in this case, it is individual servers which are not linked with one another) and infringe on other people's playstyles, and c.) we're tired of piss poor ******** like you who think they can recite every single answer from a self-help booklet on a daily basis, we prevail.

 

There happens to be a phrase in business, for every one positive compliment, there are 10 negative complaints.

 

Lets break that down into the JKII/JA servers for you.

 

For every server out there that is like Jah Warrior's, or another which UJ named, there are 10 others with no named thirteen year old pieces of **** who blow their load by abusing a modification to a game which practically acts as cheats with a password. And guess which ones you hear about more often then naught.

 

Props to Jah for running a great server, you give respect, and thus you receive it back. Same to the people whom uj complimented.

 

We need that kind of level here, not the egotistical bull**** pulled by these zealots who think that everyone has to conform to their way or die. At times, they are worse then the Catholic church during the Inquisition.

 

And until that day comes, I'll continue to knock heads with pride and fury against these bastards, thank you.

 

EDIT: That 2nd part wasn't targeted at you UJ, just so you know. Oops!

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Well, now that we've gotten all our anger out about the people calling us lamers for no reason, how about we move on to discuss more interesting things?

 

I think its time to give this a rest (for now).

 

[stormtrooper]Move along.... (sigh).. move along...[/stormtrooper]

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