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I have to admit, some of what PETA is advocating for is pushing the adsurdity level. I like their enthuasiam and what they are doing for the animals, but sometimes they just can't seem to get their heads out of the hole and realize the entire situation.

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While I respect PETA for wanting animals to have rights, I don't see the logic in a law against eating meat. While I would never kill an animal in the fashion they do to make burgers, I'm not going to stop eating the burger. I've gone deer hunting before, but unlike most poeple, I use EVERY BIT of the deer. I don't waste things, especially meat.

 

I am a supporter of animal rights, but I'm not a radical, and I won't spill paint on a fur coat, it just made it to where the animal died in vain.

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Originally posted by RayJones

dogs in a city, cats in the flat, bird in a cage, fishes behind glass: not ok.

 

I dont know, I mean, typically pets live a lot longer than their free and wild counterparts, and for the most part they are better taken care of and lead a happier life.

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Originally posted by ET Warrior

I dont know, I mean, typically pets live a lot longer than their free and wild counterparts, and for the most part they are better taken care of and lead a happier life.

when he said dogs in the city he meant apartments. That's all there is in the city, apartments. houses are in the suburbs.

Dogs should not be confined to small quarters even if they are a small dog. They need to roam around and excercize regularly, also exposing them to different enviroments is good for mental developement. Denying them such, is mental abuse. :)

 

Glass fish tanks louden sounds so even a whisper near the fish tank is like a yell to a fish, just barely brushing against it is like fingernails on a chalkboard to a fish. this can cause unneeded stress on the fish, which can create severe lack of immune function.

I'm not exactly sure how but It's in my fish care book :)

 

Always you non echoing material for a fishtank, zoo's use glass but they use specially made "quiet" glass that pretty much deadens all sound except the extremes such as hard banging, yelling, etc.

 

Birds need lots of space, if they don't get much time to fly, excercise they can become weak and unwilling to do much, once again this adds unneeded stress.

 

If you plan on getting an animal and don't live in an apartment, make sure you have time in your life to take the animal out (unless it's fish ;) ) let them explore and grow.

 

sad thing is animal cruelty cases are on the rise yet again, especially in the south and major cities in the north. Until we get stricter consequences on these crimes, I'm not sure it will ever slow down much less stop.

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Originally posted by ET Warrior

I dont know, I mean, typically pets live a lot longer than their free and wild counterparts, and for the most part they are better taken care of and lead a happier life.

 

it's not about how long they may live.

it is HOW they live.

 

fishes are fed wrong, birds have not enough "freedom" to fly, imagine you are a dog running around in a heatened flat the whole day and ONCE a day you get out for 15 min to do what you normally could do whenever it is necessary. and outside it's cold, lets say from 24°C in the flat to 0°C outside, but you wont get anything like clothes, your "master" is shouting at you just because you behave doggish like sniffing on things, but HE is freezing. to accomplish this, your nose is exactly at the height of the cars exhausts. and then your "master" goes shopping and YOU have to stay outside. he ties you to a tree or whatever and says something like "sit". then he leave for at least 30 minutes.

 

what a (long) life.

 

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boah, i write muuuuch to slooooow.. :p

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it's not about how long they may live

it about HOW they live.

 

exacty my dog has a sweater that it wears on walks in the snow and little dog booties and its cute little ha....<_< >_>

 

i mean uh...my dog is well taken care of and i think she enjoys the walks i take with her, she was a stray and probably would have died if i didnt take her in

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Actually Kryllin, that doesnt look all too apealing. I prefer thinner steaks, like Flank or T-Bone.

 

Anyway, we're at the top of the food pyramid. We deserve to eat whatever we kill, because if they were stronger then us they would kill us.

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Originally posted by Tyrion

Actually Kryllin, that doesnt look all too apealing. I prefer thinner steaks, like Flank or T-Bone.

 

Anyway, we're at the top of the food pyramid. We deserve to eat whatever we kill, because if they were stronger then us they would kill us.

 

We'll ruin ourselves in the end if we eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat. In the end, extinction for most species. Then we won't have chicken meat and steak to eat.

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We'll ruin ourselves in the end if we eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat. In the end, extinction for most species. Then we won't have chicken meat and steak to eat.

 

But that's where capitalism kicks in...it's not really in McDonald's best interests to let cows & chickens to go extinct, so they're gonna keep food species populous.

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PETA is, to put it mildly, a fanatical organisation. Or what would you call an organisation that has been found guilty of fire-bombing research facilities?

 

it's not about how long they may live.

it is HOW they live.

Exactly. Parts of the meat industries are litteraly torturing animals and birds.

 

Animals and captivity: Depends. If you want to put two tigers in a zoo, it's okay as long as they are comfortable.

 

Aninals and experiments: Better the rats than our children.

 

--Middie

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