Darth Groovy Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Originally posted by Tyrion Firefox is like everything I.E. should be. Really, I'm ashamed of Microsoft. They're a multi billion corporation, and they can't even include tabbed browsing? I nominate this as post of the year. Amen, Ty, Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Originally posted by Poggle my reaction to the "ms must do it as well" thing It's a sense of streamlining and keeping things tidy. They say they want the windows experience to be the most productive and simple..it's kind hard to do that when you have to have 5 diffferent browsers open.. Thats an opinion, and not a fact. IE works like the folders on yoru computer. Changing to tab all of the sudden (why should they) means theyll do that for folders etc too. Can you see what kind of big change this is? Theres no need for it. Raven software didnt include things admin mods would do with academy didnt they, like having full health at start of duel. And about firefox, tried it a while ago and compared it well with avant and dropped it. It wasn't faster, even slower than avant, it messed up most tables on websites; avant was easier to work with, better features... Choice was made pretty fast. avant requires IE to run so some loopholes Most browser that dont to that mess up the tables, like firefox Comparing avant with firefox by saying "avant uses IE so firefox pwns" is actually, stupid. For the reasons i gave before i think its better. And im not interested in your opinion before you compared both either, how can you say one is better without comparing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I don't see anything wrond with IE having tabbed browsing. Infact, it'll be easier, efficient and more manageable to use tabs on the folders. (Also, their name should be changed to Drawers ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Thats not the point. The point is not that tabbed browser would be bad, but changing would be. There's no need for them to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 They could give an option to turn on/off tabbed browsing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Originally posted by Alegis Gensan Comparing avant with firefox by saying "avant uses IE so firefox pwns" is actually, stupid. For the reasons i gave before i think its better. And im not interested in your opinion before you compared both either, how can you say one is better without comparing? I've compared and I've found Firefox to be better, also If you tried to change the size of the text you wouldn't have the table problem. Set the text size to normal and all will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joetheeskimo Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Originally posted by sabretooth They could give an option to turn on/off tabbed browsing.... Now there's a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I hope somebody at Microsoft is reading this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale Jerre Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Originally posted by sabretooth I hope somebody at Microsoft is reading this... Even if someone from MS was reading this, do you really think MS would care what we think? Nice thought, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Originally posted by InsaneSith I've compared and I've found Firefox to be better, also If you tried to change the size of the text you wouldn't have the table problem. Set the text size to normal and all will be fine. Send me a screenie of that page; doesnt seem to work fine here. Or the voting buttons. allright then , for the final tme; why should they change it? they got their hands full with all these haxorz already. Windows is supposed to be as user friendly as possible and thats why it has more errors than other popular OS's. There's no need to change it cause those that want something else, hey you got about 5 other browsers already. If IE went to implement it they'd all cry cause then theirs aint that special anymore. the only thing IE is going to implement as a default feature is a popup blocker, which would mean the end of the popup industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Vogel Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 IE is special because it contains more bugs than all the other browsers, even open source ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Originally posted by Jedi_Vogel IE is special because it contains more bugs than all the other browsers, even open source ones And that, m'man, is sheer brilliance! or is it common sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pad Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 Originally posted by --ZeeMan-- glad to hear it EDIT: is your location based upon alias???????? :d:D:D:D:D:D Same as the title and the av kiddo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Originally posted by Alegis Gensan And about firefox, tried it a while ago and compared it well with avant and dropped it. It wasn't faster, even slower than avant, it messed up most tables on websites; avant was easier to work with, better features... Choice was made pretty fast. Mmm, I'd be happy if Avant browser would be included too. I'm not saying Firefox is good, I'm saying that IE is horrible feature wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 all avant browser is is a skin for IE, so it has a few of the same problems. But it sure makes the usability much better. I think tabbed browsing is one of those things that you can't see the point of until you try it, but once you do you can't go back. (like dvds... ) But the main reason i got Avant in the first place was that it had the cool feature i had liked most in opera.... the fact it gave you the option of restarting exactly where you were when things crash. As i tend to be browsing in about 10 windows at once it would be a nightmare if IE or my PC crashed and i usually couldn't find my way back to half the sites.... Now THAT is a feature they should add to IE!!!!!! The other advantage is that it renders like IE. Unfortuantely IE remders moxst things WRONGLY.... but as it has about a 98% market share it IS the stadard that everyone makes websites to. I had opera for a while and loved it... but it is no use when half the advanced websites look wrong in it because they have used IE specific code. (not opera's fault... but that doesn't provide much comfort when you can't log into your bank ) I'm trying to design a site at the moment and use stylesheets, doctypes etc... to make it look the same in all browsers and be accesible at the same time, and it is a nightmare of epic proportions... so i can see why a lot of people just give up and only design for IE. (although if you can force IE inst standards mode then it ALMOST does things right ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Vogel Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 With that, I develop in Opera and then TEST in the other browsers (i.e. included). Generally you can't go wrong with browser compatibility. There are exceptions of course, and my site has a couple of browser-specific code just to tweak the rendering, but if it works in Opera/Firefox, it'll work in IE. And yes, it is frustrating when site mangers don't realise that not everyone is an IE user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight of Keno Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I have the same problem in my IE. Now I have Firefox. Much easyer to use... And doesn't crash everytime I open it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Originally posted by Jedi_Vogel With that, I develop in Opera and then TEST in the other browsers (i.e. included). Generally you can't go wrong with browser compatibility. There are exceptions of course, and my site has a couple of browser-specific code just to tweak the rendering, but if it works in Opera/Firefox, it'll work in IE. like if you put text in OBJECT tags (which you should do for accessibility and should only render when the object isn't available) opera insists on showing it anywar. grrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Vogel Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 LOL, never needed object tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Originally posted by Jedi_Vogel LOL, never needed object tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Vogel Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 And for the mature response to cap the lot of them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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