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Originally posted by Doomgiver

Could be. But the fact remains that he had to be very wounded then. Besides, i have enough other valid points :D

 

The injuries didn't all necessarily come at once, unless that's already been stated, becauseI haven't paid much attention to Grievous, i'm trying to stay relatively spoiler-free. But Couldn't he have aquired his cyborg parts piece by piece? Arm here, leg there, and so on.

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Originally posted by Doomgiver

So ET, you come to the ep 3 spoiler board to stay spoilerfree? :dozey:

Originally posted by ET Warrior

[...]i'm trying to stay relatively spoiler-free.

:p

 

 

 

And I do beleive you don't have to be a jedi to get 'cyborgified'... Besides, like ET said, his wounds coul have happened at different times.

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Hmm... Whatever. Even if it's not so according to Lucas, it would be an interesting path to explore in EU. I don't think we're the only ones that came up with this idea, so we might get some new EU about this in the future...

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When considering characters one must keep in mind more than the story arch. We must also remember the will of the Fore himself, Mr. Lucas. G.L. has said in the past that the reason he had Maul split in two halves was that so people would not think that he would be coming back. (but we still did anyway) It's not Maul. SIfo Dyas, maybe, I doubt it because that would just bring in to many good guys turned bad and it goes against the the Sith code of no more than 2 at a time (assuming he will be a sith). Mr. Lucas will stick with his own story line and won't bend, but he will throw in a great character and create a fantastic EU background for us (the fanatic fans) with tons of details. GG will be one of those characters.

We know he is male/cyborg/uses light sabers/great warrior and strategist. Whre does he come from? Who was he? Since he uses light sabers he must be a force user right? If not, this throws in an interesting wrench in the SW universe. If GG cannot use the force, but he is deft enough to wield multiple light sabers at once to defeat Jedi in combat, can this be repeated by his speices or by his programming? I am not as much concerned as to whom he is (though it could answer the question) but as to is he a force user, Jedi or sith?

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Pablo ruled out both Maul and Sifo Dyas as Grievous. He's a completely new character. He also ruled out Syfo Dyas being seen or mentioned in ROTS. He implied it was all pretty straight forward, Syfo Dyas WAS a Jedi Council member and did die 10 years ago. From that I guess we're to assume that Palpy or Dooku ordered the clones using that name.

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But he died under mysterious circumstances, right? All they knew was that he disappeared during a mission, or something. At least, i think that was it. But anyway, the only-two-rule is one of the reasons it has to be a former jedi, since no Sith could've trained him. It may not be Sifo Dyas, but it is a former jedi. I believe he also didn't have red lightsabers, but different colors, but i might be wrong. But that would mean he's not a Sith, since forging an artificial crystal (wich is always red) is an essential part of Sith training...

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According to his bio on the SW official website, he collects the light sabers of the jedi he kills (Much like a miss Aura Sing whom also has Jedi training and has left the order to hunt Jedi. hmmm . . . . . I'm not even going to go there, for that to happen she would need to lots of changes, but hey anything is possible with a cyborg body I suppose). He very well then has sabers on his person/droid to use in combat.

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Originally posted by Doomgiver

but who trained him? And shouldn't he have a lightsaber to block lightsabers with? i think his first lightsaber was his own, and he doesn't have a single red one, right?

... he's not a jedi dangit, and there is such thing as killing a lowly padawan that's not trained all that well. He could just be a very reflexetive alien species but with his cyborg modifications he could be even more reflexetive and agile thus giving him the ability to properly weild a lightsaber.

 

PS: I'm aware reflexetive is a fake word, but if Bush can make up words, I demand the same right.

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If Grievious wants to get his cyborg hands on a Light Saber (his very first one) it would not be a problem seeing that he is in cahoots (spelling?) with Tyranus. After the battle of Geanosis, I'm sure that there were several extra sabers laying arond for say any old cyborg to happen around and pick up while he was on vacation or something like that. I don't imagine getting a saber in the first place would be the difficult part, but wielding the blade effectively in combat against a Jedi would be. Greivious doesn't have to be trained in the ways of the force, just Force sensitive.

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Originally posted by Chase Windu

To me it would make more sense if Jedi Master Syfo Dias was Grevious. Syfo Dias is thought to be dead and also ordered the clones. Plus Lucas has yet to reveal who Syfo Dias was exactly because we know so little about him.

 

 

I don't post very often but I desided to share my theory on Jedi Master Syfo Dias. I think its palpatine. Look the guy obviously has an identaty crisis (darth sidious, palpatine, hmmmm there's more I had a brain fart) whats one more name going to matter. Also I think this because he was a jedi at one time obviously a master of great power strong enough to hide his true identy from the councle.

 

So to tie it up.

1. Jedi Master Syfo Dias gets saduced by the dark side by the ancient sith. (possably something like seen in Jedi Academy pc game with tavion)

2. Makes this grand plan on how to take the Galaxie.

3. Orders the creation of the clone army because by the time of compleation he would be ready to put all plans in action. Then delates the data about the cloning planet in the Jedi archives so no one would find out about his plan before he was ready for them to see it.

4. Fakes his own death in order to fully take the place of Dark lord of the Sith.

5. Waits until everyone belives Jedi Master Syfo Dias is dead and goes into polotics possably masking his features to the features of Palpatine or he really is palpatine and looks like someone else to the councle ("never underestamate the power of the dark side") yea I can't explain this one good it makes sence in my head sorry.

6. Trains darth mal and sets up a war so he can be Suprame Chancler

7. Tried to kill the then senetor Padme (because she posed the only threat to his plain of full power by wanting democracy "The day we stop beliving in democracy is the day it dies" ep1) by hiring Jango which Anakin and obi wan figred out who the would be assain was thus revealing the ready clone army to the senate. (So it was a win win for pally Kill Padme, Jar Jar in charge(****) or have them figre our who cares amys ready)

8. ****s over the Trade feaderation yet again by using dooku. Sets up another war which he is granted Supream power (birth of the empire good job jar jar) to use the clone army agenst the fedaration who was actually working for him.

Famous clone war: Basicly a civil war to astablish the empire.

9. Anakin is suduce by the dark side. He and Syfo Dias/pally kill the remaining jedi killing with them the hopes of stoping the grand plan.

 

ENTER: SW EP4

 

CONCLUTION: PALPATINE, Darth Sidious, or what ever you want to call him IS Jedi Master Syfo Dias.

 

 

whew that was a long one I haven't slept in like 2 days so sorry of my spelling and grammer is off a bit.

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Originally posted by Ockniel

so that fixes that, now to clear the Syfo Dias thing, I know I saw it there someplace...

 

Oh and I read that thing about him being in ep2 as well thus conferming my case. And Gen Gravous (sp) is just a new ch intrduce in the clone wars (not mal "2 sith rule" and not Syfo Dias cuz he's pally)

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Originally posted by dirsh

I don't post very often but I desided to share my theory on Jedi Master Syfo Dias. I think its palpatine. Look the guy obviously has an identaty crisis (darth sidious, palpatine, hmmmm there's more I had a brain fart) whats one more name going to matter. Also I think this because he was a jedi at one time obviously a master of great power strong enough to hide his true identy from the councle.

I don't see why he or Dooku simply couldn't have said his name was Syfo Dyas. And who ever said Sidious was a jedi before ? Surely the jedi would recognize him if he ever was part of the order.

 

 

So to tie it up.

1. Jedi Master Syfo Dias gets saduced by the dark side by the ancient sith. (possably something like seen in Jedi Academy pc game with tavion)

I think jedi master Syfo Dyas simply dies 10 years prior to AotC, like it was actually said in the movie.

 

 

2. Makes this grand plan on how to take the Galaxie.

That's Palpatine's plan...

 

 

3. Orders the creation of the clone army because by the time of compleation he would be ready to put all plans in action. Then delates the data about the cloning planet in the Jedi archives so no one would find out about his plan before he was ready for them to see it.

Sidious or Dooku could have done it... taking only Dyas' name as the cloners have no idea who he really is and what he looks like. Perhaps Dyas was[/s] seduced by the dark side and followed Sidious' orders to order the clones. Sidious probably got rid of him after it was done and he had removed the planet from the archives.

 

 

4. Fakes his own death in order to fully take the place of Dark lord of the Sith.

5. Waits until everyone belives Jedi Master Syfo Dias is dead and goes into polotics possably masking his features to the features of Palpatine or he really is palpatine and looks like someone else to the councle ("never underestamate the power of the dark side") yea I can't explain this one good it makes sence in my head sorry.

Sidious has obvioulsy been around befor Syfo Dyas died. And we have never heared of anyone being able to modify his physical appearence using the force...

 

 

We don't know who Syfo Dyas is, but we do know he's not Sidious, for ovious reasons. The jedi knew who Syfo Dyas was and what he looked like and yet they don't seem to recognize Palpatine.

 

Palpatine was a senator before being chancelor. If he is in fact Syfo Dyas, how could he be on the senate and still go on some peacekeeping missions around the galaxy ?

 

One possibility is, like I explained before, Dyas really was seduced by the dark side and recruited by Sidious who promised him a place at his side if he could prove his loyalty by ordering the army and deleting the planet from the archive... (just a though) Sidious then backstabbed him (not literally) and nobody ever heared about it until Obi-Wan flew to Kamino.

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Originally posted by .:CoupeS:.

Sidious has obvioulsy been around befor Syfo Dyas died. And we have never heared of anyone being able to modify his physical appearence using the force

 

Actually...there are several Sith surgeries that one could preform to change most anything about themselves...

 

...if I was still on good terms with the guy who had that book, I'd get the actual quote, but since he's a piece of thieving ****, kinda hard to get mah hands on it.

 

 

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