Doomie Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Alright, i don't know wether to put this on the EP. 1 & 2 board or here, but i'll take my chances with here. Why did the Jedi Council recognize Anakin as the one that would bring balance back to the Force? Because at the end of ROTJ, Vader brings balance to the force by destroying the Sith, according to the prophecy. So destroying the Sith brings balance to the Force. But the Jedi council thought the Sith were extinct for thousand years already, so they must've thought balance was already restored and the guy that supposedly killed the last one off was the chosen one. Then it wouldn't make sense to make Ani as the chosen one, since the prophecy was already furfilled (SP?). ofcourse, Maul showed up later, but they already recognized the 'chosen one'... I bet i don't make a lot of sense with all that, but please comment on anything understandable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codja X Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 I think it's mentioned in Ep II - Mace says something like "our ability to use the force is diminished". This implies that it has been going on for quite some time. Yoda also mentions something about the dark side power growing - the light side and the dark side is out of balance. As the Jedi get weaker they know that the dark side must be getting stronger. Along with the prophecy and Anakin's stupidly high midi-chlorian count, they assumed he is "the one" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 Yes, but they should've considered the prophecy furfilled already, since they thought the Sith were eradicated... So Anakin should've been recognized as a very skilled kid instead of 'the one'. And the dark side growing stronger, they only noticed after Qui-gon was turned into dead meat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codja X Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Originally posted by Doomgiver Qui-gon was turned into a ghost... eh? Is this EU? also, Anakin was conceived by the midi-chlorians - I think this may have convinced the Jedi council Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 no, this isn't EU, i was just saying he died. I should've considered that jedi really turn into ghosts... but anyway, i meant to say: he died. And about the concieving stuff, that could've been in the prophecy... but then, they would've knwon there were still Sith, since the prophecy still had to be furfilled. (I am not spelling this right, or am i?) EDIT: alright, i changed it, nobody will be confused anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight of Keno Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 'Cause he's Anakin. D'oh! And becides. There will never be good, if there isn't evil. There is allways an evil side of us lurking, waiting to come out. And propably the Jedi knew that. They knew that the Sith WERE exstinct, but they allso knew, that they wouldn't be existing either if there wouldn't be any of the sith alive. That's why they were suspicious of Anakin. He was one of the key elements. If he was the boy that the prophecy talked about, he had much hatred and fear inside(Like Mace and Yoda said in Ep1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codja X Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Originally posted by Doomgiver Qui-gon was turned into dead meat... Now that's what I call an edit:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 The Sith may have been diminished, but remember, sometime, someplace, evil always crops up. It wouldn't be too hard to prophesize that in the future, another evil dude will hamper the harmony of peace and the one to invite peace back will be the 'chosen one'. Not a very movie-ish explanation, but that's what I've got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Anakin is the key to the whole death and rebirth cycle the Jedi Order went through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR-0927 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 I think it's because he had more midichlorians (spelling?) than anyone else, even Yoda, I dunno, just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 yeah, but they should've thought the prophecy was done already... Anyway, about the dark side being always there... that's true, but there weren't Sith, or at least they thought. Only fallen Jedi and scum of the galaxy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 The prophecy wasn't completed until Anakin restored balance to the Force by killing the Emperor and ensuring the total extinction of the Dark Lords of the Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 a child born of a woman with no father. conceived by midi-chlorians. doesnt seem like your every day event now does it? in ep2 mace says something to the effect of "If your apprentice is indeed the one that the prophecy speaks of then he alone can bring the force back into balance". even mace is skeptical, but they all hope that he will bring it into balance (because they think balance is a good thing oddly enough). now the actual balance itself is under suspicion, some say its the rule of numbers, 2 sith so 2 jedi (palp/vader yoda/obi wan. until obi wan dies and luke replaces him) others say that the balance is brought when there are NO jedi or sith left (ppl who dont count luke as a true jedi and see yoda/palp/vader dead in the end of rotj). it doesnt really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 In fact, the balance is a whole bunch of Jedi and no Sith at all... YOu've brought up soem goof points, it's clear now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Yeah. The Jedi are the guardians of the Republic, meaning that they take care of little disputes and such. They are definately not a war bred faction like the Sith are. There are too few Jedi to fight a war which has been said so many times in the prequals. The Sith on the other hand can manipulate other parties to fight for them and create war which disturbs the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted July 31, 2004 Author Share Posted July 31, 2004 but in fact, there should also be no jedi, since jedi can fall to the dark side... I think it would be best to have the only-two-rule implemented in the jedi code, because two jedi are easier to watch and contain should they flip out... Sorry for my bad typing in my previous post, btw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 oh come on, that's just stupid. Jedi are defense warriors, having two jedi only is hardly defensive. Sith can have only 2 because they are offensive, but they're sneaky and have kept themselves behind a shroud so that the jedi could not sense them, this works better because the less people there are the better you can conceal your order. In order for jedi to keep peace in the galaxies they need more than 2 jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt-Man Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 actually, anakin is not the one, its either jacen or anakin(leia and han's kids) if not one of them then its lukes kid, one of those three, i'm reading the books, i have't got that part yet, but my dad said that its one of those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 ... the hell? in the movie it's anakin that is the one mentioned in the prophecy, so I choose canon over EU. and it's a better bet that if it wasn't anakin himself then it was luke seeing as he returned his father to grace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Originally posted by Curt-Man actually, anakin is not the one, its either jacen or anakin(leia and han's kids) if not one of them then its lukes kid, one of those three, i'm reading the books, i have't got that part yet, but my dad said that its one of those three. I don't mean to be mean or really want to start a flame war or anything... but you're an idiot. The movies outrank EU, Anakin is the chosen one, the prophecy took from Episode 1 to Episode 6 to complete itself. The Solo kids have their own adventures but they have nothing to do with the old Jedi prophecy except being the grandchildren of the one who was "the chosen one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted August 1, 2004 Author Share Posted August 1, 2004 Alright, i'm not one of those guys that say the EU sucks but i think you misinterpreted it... Either that, or EU does suck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Originally posted by Doomgiver EU does suck... that's the most intelligent thing you've ever said Doom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted August 1, 2004 Author Share Posted August 1, 2004 I guess i'll take that as a compliment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Originally posted by Curt-Man actually, anakin is not the one, its either jacen or anakin(leia and han's kids) if not one of them then its lukes kid, one of those three, i'm reading the books, i have't got that part yet, but my dad said that its one of those three. sorry to burst your bubble but no. nowhere in the EU books does it say that anybody except anakin (lukes dad) is the chosen one. your dads wrong or crazy... or both. this isnt a question of EU vs canon, because both sides agree on this issue. the prophecy was fulfilled by anakin skywalker during ep1-6. end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyfreaker Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Oh, and next time, don't ask your dad about star wars. baaad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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