Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Originally posted by guybroom Put it this way: Jedi = Jews Imperials = Nazis How about that for simple? And when did the Empire enslave the Wookies? Do u mean in KOTOR? someone correct me if i'm wrong, but han rescued chewie from imperial enslavement, which is how the life debt incurred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primalunderdog Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 That is true,Chewie was rescued by han in a prison camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 I haven't read the old Han Solo books, but was Chewie an Imperial slave or just a slave of some pirates or something? I always assumed that the Wookies were enslaved by the Empire, but that doesn't mean that other people didn't treat them as slaves, such as Chewbacca. Just curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 I believe I remember correctly when I say he was an Imperial slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Originally posted by Kurgan I haven't read the old Han Solo books, but was Chewie an Imperial slave or just a slave of some pirates or something? I always assumed that the Wookies were enslaved by the Empire, but that doesn't mean that other people didn't treat them as slaves, such as Chewbacca. Just curious... it is mentioned several times that chewie was rescued from imperial slavery in the EU books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Ep III spoiler warning... i believe in Ep III you will see the wookiees being enslaved by the empire, including chewbacca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 how do you create that spoiler blankout thingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch how do you create that spoiler blankout thingy you can use the spoiler tag by typing then your spoiler here [~spoiler] (replace ~ with / for it too work) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch it is mentioned several times that chewie was rescued from imperial slavery in the EU books Okay, since I haven't read those books (the only book I've read that mentioned it was the "Wookiee Storybook" that says "slave traders") I'll take your word for it that it was Imperials who enslaved Chewie. ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I think that the spoiler was right. I've heard that too. Also I mentioned KOTOR before and I'm not sure if this needs a spoiler tag or not but i'll do it anyway. The czeca corp enslave the wookies on kashak (or eden as they call it). Czerca isn't the empire but it does work for the empire It might be like that in EP 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Well i'd say yes. Because he killed the Emperor (although he resurrected again some time later) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 The emperor got reserected? is that the EU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Yuriath Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 The Jedi represent the Force and the Sith the Dark Side of the Force. Bringing balance to the means that the Sith die but the Jedi stay. If I remember correctly, I guess Lucas says that in the audio commentaries of the RotJ. Anyhow, don't find that strange that the most powerful Force-sensitive never had a student?!? Anakin was obi-Wan's padawan and then, as Darth Vader, he was Palpatine's pupil. Anakin was always the second even though he tried to lure luke to the Dark Side to help him destroy the Emperor and take his place. Vader's plan was quite simple if you compare it to Sidious'; turn Luke to the Dark Side and betray his mentor. I wonder why Palpatine did not farsaw Vader's treachery. Was Vader enough powerful in the Dark Side to hide things to the Emperor?!? Vader did feel that Luke was in the shuttle and the Emperor did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by Talor Star Because surely with all the stuff spouted by qui gon in ep I about him being amazing and stuff and that he will being balance to the force, bet he didnt think he would do this by destroying practically the whole light side of the force? so did ankin furfil (spelt so badly i think ) the prohpecy or not? was him turning always predicited or did it just not go well? Yes, he did! He killed the Emperor, the worsest man in the whole galaxy. And when he returned to the light, before he died, everything is alright! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by guybroom I think that the spoiler was right. I've heard that too. Also I mentioned KOTOR before and I'm not sure if this needs a spoiler tag or not but i'll do it anyway. The czeca corp enslave the wookies on kashak (or eden as they call it). Czerca isn't the empire but it does work for the empire It might be like that in EP 3 That happened 4000 years before the rise of the Empire though. Since then the wookiees obviously rose above their slave status sometime in those thousands of years (See Ep. I and I think II aswell) perating KotOR and the Galactic Civil War period. Time of the Empire, they were back to being slave labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Did Anakin bring balance? Yes- through his death. He created an imbalance in the Force, throguh his slaughter of the Jedi. Only through his death, and the death of the Emperor, did he restore balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 The Force was already in imballance even before Anakin was born if 1 Sith can hide from the Jedi right under their noses. Anakin balanced it again by removing the Emperor from the equation. The unfortunate side effect was that pretty much every Jedi was eradicated aswell in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Originally posted by Jan Gaarni The Force was already in imballance even before Anakin was born if 1 Sith can hide from the Jedi right under their noses. Anakin balanced it again by removing the Emperor from the equation. The unfortunate side effect was that pretty much every Jedi was eradicated aswell in the process. There are some stories in EU which tell us that the Emperor cloned his body several times after Ep. VI! I find that stupid. It makes Ep. VI senseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 According to the EU line of thinking, "Palpatine" the entity is actually a malevolent evil "Sith Spirit" that floats around and possesses people. And he's so powerful in the Dark Side that he "wears out" any body that he possesses in a very short time (not sure how short, but enough so that he needed a new body before ESB and he got a new one after ROTJ and already it was worn out by the time of "Dark Empire" in which this story takes place). According to this theory the Dark Side causes "rapid aging" and wrecks havoc on bodies, which is why Palpatine looks so old and twisted. The clones need not be of his actual body (though they tend to be, since he happens to look the same in old age). He was finally killed and his spirit prevented from slipping into a new body (somehow, I don't remember exactly, some technobabble Force thing) by the end of Dark Empire II. But with this theory in mind, "Palpatine" actually died a long time ago. We're just dealing with a nasty ghost instead! It's an interesting theory, but it doesn't seem to bode well with the Prequels (which show him just as a really powerful Sith, with normal aging). HOWEVER, the Episode III teaser trailer has introduced a few doubts in my mind and I'll have to see the movie to know if there are some new wrinkles introduced by Lucas (no pun intended!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Your posts are always very long! But they are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Lead by example. Which I am poor at right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by Kurgan According to the EU line of thinking, "Palpatine" the entity is actually a malevolent evil "Sith Spirit" that floats around and possesses people. And he's so powerful in the Dark Side that he "wears out" any body that he possesses in a very short time (not sure how short, but enough so that he needed a new body before ESB and he got a new one after ROTJ and already it was worn out by the time of "Dark Empire" in which this story takes place). According to this theory the Dark Side causes "rapid aging" and wrecks havoc on bodies, which is why Palpatine looks so old and twisted. The clones need not be of his actual body (though they tend to be, since he happens to look the same in old age). He was finally killed and his spirit prevented from slipping into a new body (somehow, I don't remember exactly, some technobabble Force thing) by the end of Dark Empire II. But with this theory in mind, "Palpatine" actually died a long time ago. We're just dealing with a nasty ghost instead! It's an interesting theory, but it doesn't seem to bode well with the Prequels (which show him just as a really powerful Sith, with normal aging). Like you said, the prequals don't agree with this theory about palpy. Although, was he strong as strong in the force at the begining of ep 1. I know that he worked out just about everything that would happen until the last few minutes of ep 2, but how physicly powerful was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnkparasite Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I Think it was really obvious that Anakin would go bad by the second movie. When he destroys the entire village of sand people out of spite and hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 I think it was obvious he would go bad, from before they saw TPM for anyone who has seen the OT. i.e. anikin skywalker was always going to turn evil. but the question was when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engma48 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 bringing balance to the force in the theory's of the jedi means to wipe out the darkside of the force. that being said. anakin did bring balance to the force when he killed the emporer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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