Aryyn Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 These movies make Anakin to be some savior to the galaxy in which he was more like a disease. Sure he may have brought balance to the force but at the galaxies exspense. Just think if he would have survived, Everybody would want his head on a stick. Just think how messed up in the head Luke must be after all of that he went through. He must be a ticking time bomb, heres some examples. 1. Grew up on Owens farm taking in all kinds of B.S. & lies from some farmer for 20 years! 2. Watch as his only friend & mentor get cut down by his so-called father. 3. Made out & had sexual thoughts about his sister. You saw how mad he got when Vader mentioned her LOL 4. Lied to by Obi-wan a man he respected & had to find out Vader was his father the HARD WAY. 5. Right when things get good he must burn his fathers body & just deal with things on his own. Yes the son of Skywalker deal with pain on his own lol. There is a ton more but i just got carried away the bottom line is Anakin was better off left on Tattoine & better off dead on the Death Star. If anybody asks i was just bored
Sivy Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 i think what the prequels try and show us is that Anakin was only human and the choices he made (choices that would lead him to the darkside) would be the same as many would make in that position. if your mother was kidnapped and killed you would want to kick some ass too. if you fell in love with someone, would you care if it was 'against the rules'? anakin was a weapon that people wanted to use for their own purposes. the jedi wanted him to be trained as a Jedi, even though they all saw the dangers, including yoda. why? because of the prophecy. palpatine wanted him as he saw how powerful anakin was. the jedi were afraid of him because of his power and they tried to stifle his progress. palpatine however wasn't afraid, he was excited by it, so he encourage him. in ep III we'll see palpatine seduce anakin, we don't know exactly how he does this. but again i think it will be a choice thay many wouldn't disagree with.
toenail1 Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by Aryyn These movies make Anakin to be some savior to the galaxy in which he was more like a disease. Sure he may have brought balance to the force but at the galaxies exspense. Just think if he would have survived, Everybody would want his head on a stick. Just think how messed up in the head Luke must be after all of that he went through. He must be a ticking time bomb, heres some examples. 1. Grew up on Owens farm taking in all kinds of B.S. & lies from some farmer for 20 years! 2. Watch as his only friend & mentor get cut down by his so-called father. 3. Made out & had sexual thoughts about his sister. You saw how mad he got when Vader mentioned her LOL 4. Lied to by Obi-wan a man he respected & had to find out Vader was his father the HARD WAY. 5. Right when things get good he must burn his fathers body & just deal with things on his own. Yes the son of Skywalker deal with pain on his own lol. There is a ton more but i just got carried away the bottom line is Anakin was better off left on Tattoine & better off dead on the Death Star. If anybody asks i was just bored ummm.... anybody else notice how he is saying Anakin, while he is talking about Luke.... might want to get your characters straight;)
Doomie Posted November 13, 2004 Posted November 13, 2004 Worse. he's talking about them both like they're one character. But he's not a 'ticking time bomb', watch. 1. He loved his aunt and uncle, and surely he has forgiven this all after they were brutally killed for protecting him... 2. ... To see him again some years later... 3. He got mad because Vader suggested that he'd take her to the dark side, not because he wanted to have sex with her. Perv. 4. Alright. But he's gotten over that. 5. cremating someone is an ancient jedi tradition, and to keep that up Luke burned vader's SUIT because his body had become one with the force. And besides... Luke's a jedi, he's got Discipline like you wouldn't believe.
Armydude71490 Posted November 13, 2004 Posted November 13, 2004 Originally posted by Doomie Worse. he's talking about them both like they're one character. But he's not a 'ticking time bomb', watch. 1. He loved his aunt and uncle, and surely he has forgiven this all after they were brutally killed for protecting him... 2. ... To see him again some years later... 3. He got mad because Vader suggested that he'd take her to the dark side, not because he wanted to have sex with her. Perv. 4. Alright. But he's gotten over that. 5. cremating someone is an ancient jedi tradition, and to keep that up Luke burned vader's SUIT because his body had become one with the force. And besides... Luke's a jedi, he's got iscipline like you wouldn't believe. Yea This thread doesen't make much sense, iscipline, when you say it is sounds funny:D
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 13, 2004 Posted November 13, 2004 4. Not just got over, but realized that he was not lied to. He was angry at first, but realized that Obi-Wan had done the right thing. Originally posted by Armydude71490 Yea This thread doesen't make much sense, What he said.
TK-8252 Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 Originally posted by Armydude71490 Yea This thread doesen't make much sense Indeed. Most confusing thread ever.
Ockniel Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 if anaking didn't become Vader, Palpatine would still be in power at the end of ROTJ and yeah, this thread is REALLY bad
RebelScum! Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 He saved the planet of Naboo can't forget that. And this is quite the lousy thread.
Aryyn Posted November 15, 2004 Author Posted November 15, 2004 Its all a matter of view & opinion i guess
TK-8252 Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Originally posted by Aryyn Its all a matter of view & opinion i guess No, it's a matter of Anakin and Luke are two different people.
Aryyn Posted November 15, 2004 Author Posted November 15, 2004 I realize that! I was pointing out the long term effects Vader had on Luke!
Lynk Former Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Anakin was never there for Luke because he became Darth Vader, a different person. The good person who was once Luke's father was now being supressed. If Anakin could break free from the Dark Side he would've raised Luke to be a Jedi and raised him well. When it comes down to it, Vader is a bad man, Anakin is a great man and a hero. Luke is also a hero and you're a very confused person Aryyn
Mike Windu Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 I think Luke would have joined the empire had he realized that Beru was mad at Uncle Owen and used a thermal detonator to blow the whole place up, and the stormtroopers were just innocent bystanders trying to resolve the dispute. [/troops] the above statement makes as much sense as this thread. Honestly, Anakin was a decent hero, if not bratty. He didn't seem like a great saberist however.
Leper Messiah Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 i dont think Darth Vader is a different person, that i felt was kinda the whole point of Luke facing him in ROTJ. I guess we'll know more about the difference between Anakin and Vader in episode 3. i dont think Anakin was supposed to be a hero. the story is of his fall to darkness and eventual redemption, so i dont think he was ever meant to be like Luke in the OT
TK-8252 Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 I wonder... If Episodes I, II, and III were released before the trilogy, if Anakin/Vader would have been considered the main character over Luke, Han, and Leia. The prequels are heavily based around Anakin, ya know, and when you think about it, Vader got a lot of face time in the trilogy. Maybe when Episode III is out, we can have kids who are entirely new to the Star Wars series watch all the movies in order and ask what they think the main character is.
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 GL has basically said that the main character is Anakin. There is really little question of that. He said that the original trilogy is about the redemption of Anakin, and that the prequel trilogy is about his rise and fall.
TK-8252 Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 But ya know when the movies were first out in the '70's all the SW fans thought Luke, Han, and Leia were the main characters, and Vader was just the villian.
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Ah, you mean considered by moviegoers. I'm sure someone watching the entire saga (regardless of order, age, time as a fan, etc.) would probably reckognize Anakin as the main character.
Lynk Former Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Well obviously with the release of the prequals things will start taking on a new meaning altogether.
Sabretooth Posted November 16, 2004 Posted November 16, 2004 Bad thread. Anakin was never a hero, Aryyn.
Lynk Former Posted November 16, 2004 Posted November 16, 2004 Originally posted by Sabretooth Bad thread. Anakin was never a hero, Aryyn. Yeah, him firing those proton torpedoes into that Federation Control Ships core and throwing the Emperor off the bridge while he was zapping his son makes him just some loser.
Aryyn Posted November 16, 2004 Author Posted November 16, 2004 LOL what about everything else in between" can you say eratication of the jedi" destruction of the republic the list go's on & on. Should have left him on Tattoine where they found the little scrub
Armydude71490 Posted November 16, 2004 Posted November 16, 2004 Originally posted by Aryyn LOL what about everything else in between" can you say eratication of the jedi" destruction of the republic the list go's on & on. Good point Except you last part VADER RULES ALL JEDI SHALL BURN YOU WILL SEE But really anakin was the prophised one to bring balance to the force eradicating all jedi and the lord of the sith! he saw both sides! Darth Vader is the evil anakin he even said a line in epesode 2 that he had believed all along something about how a dictatorship is right! Good/Jedi Anakin said this when he was happy! So something between epesode 1 and 2 led him on his way to becoming evil!
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