Captain Wilson Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Well this must be place specifc. Im assuming ur in the UK, but im good friends with a lot of goths up here in leeds, and not once have seen or heard of goths starting fights, smoking pot in childrens playgronds (normaly the scals up here who do that). And you must have some strange Goths if they listen to linkin park. by Goths do mean moshers If this is different for were you live, i apoligize. And astro, scal is the same as a Twat\fu**wit\pile of ****e\burberry wearing wanker Spider, look at pie, theres your answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Nah, I don't think Pie knows what a goth is either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 it is specific to where i live they are worse than you may find elsewhere, but they are definately Goths. Im not a Goth fan in general though i find them very self-rightous, they seem to think they have it right under all circumstances and anyone else has it wrong. Not only that but because i like to wear a leather jacket and metal band t-shirts i frequently get labelled as a Goth which does annoy me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Don't think there's anything criminal in putting gay pr0n in mailboxes here in Norway... But then again, we do have a priest as prime minister, so what do I know? Neways, will be nice to see Pie around here again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeleneRayne Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Aw, poor Pie. Hope to see him around soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Not only that but because i like to wear a leather jacket and metal band t-shirts i frequently get labelled as a Goth which does annoy meProbably because nobody knows what goth is these days. To be frank I haven't the foggiest, and it seems that even those who consider themselves "goths" don't know what goth is. I find it most perplexing that a subculture can exist with a clear identity to the outside observer but without a comparably clear sense of itself, be it similar or dissimilar. Maybe goths don't care what they're aligning themselves with, perhaps they just want the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by Spider AL Probably because nobody knows what goth is these days. To be frank I haven't the foggiest, and it seems that even those who consider themselves "goths" don't know what goth is. I find it most perplexing that a subculture can exist with a clear identity to the outside observer but without a comparably clear sense of itself, be it similar or dissimilar. Maybe goths don't care what they're aligning themselves with, perhaps they just want the company. very true but then again some of the most annoying Goths are the ones with clear ideas of what other people must meet in terms of criterea to be a goth... but then again others arnt so bad ugh, my head hurts, it doesnt help the bloody fire alarm is going off AGAIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothiX Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Saying goths are "very self-righteous" is absolute and utter bull****. It all depends on the person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 True, we're all individuals. One shouldn't label people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by GothiX Saying goths are "very self-righteous" is absolute and utter bull****. It all depends on the person. i was speaking generally i didnt mean to suggest that they all were without exception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothiX Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by Leper Messiah i was speaking generally i didnt mean to suggest that they all were without exception It's still bull****. I don't know a single goth I'd deem as 'very self-righteous', except some Mansonites. And trust me, I know a lot of people within the local gothic subculture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by GothiX It's still bull****. I don't know a single goth I'd deem as 'very self-righteous', except some Mansonites. And trust me, I know a lot of people within the local gothic subculture. ive no doubt. but i still insist that goths that ive come into contact with, generally but not all of them are very self-rightous. So there you have it, we're both right. rarely do things work out so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Redwing Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by Boba Rhett Chav? Goth? Fight? Whaaa? I even looked at that website and am still totally lost. *walks away mumbling something about needing screenshots* Ditto. :x All the names mentioned here are leaving me totally lost. I can only assume they are some freaky indigenous subcultures. We have Goths here, but it's...completely totally nothing like the Goths you're describing. It's just a personal stylistic thing. o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by Spider AL Nah, I don't think Pie knows what a goth is either. Spiderman, I fear that you sound like a broken record You embarked on the same tirade in a previous thread, making simple minded rhetorical comments that only acted to inflame or alienate our lovely goth friends. I know Pie well enough to confidently say that he knows exactly what he is doing and why .... At the end of the day, I just see it as a mode of expression as much of a lifestyle. I went out with a girl in uni who described herself as 'Victorian gothic', liking the fashion in particular of the Late Queen Victoria's era...There is *definitely* a social element to it, as it would be of any group of people wearing similar clothing, liking similar music etc etc..... I say you should try forget about the definition of what goth is, because really, a true goth is a Nordic warrior tribe that roamed the northern regions during Roman time the modern day goth 'subculture' is many things to different people.... nonetheless, I would prefer a goth to chav scum anyday.... and Leper...goths and linkin park : DOES NOT COMPUTE.... I suggest you go and talk to these kids/ppl and learn a bit more about them rather than telling us something you have heard about happenned in your home town ??? mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 and Leper...goths and linkin park : DOES NOT COMPUTE.... I suggest you go and talk to these kids/ppl and learn a bit more about them rather than telling us something you have heard about happenned in your home town ??? mtfbwya the linkin park example comes from one person to be honest with you. anyway, all i really need to know about them at the moment (allthough i do know more i was friends with a couple in my younger days) is that theyve caused unnecessary trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Ravenloft...is...gothic...setting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by Kain Ravenloft...is...gothic...setting? ???....hmm..this post was brought to you by Kains bong, now in chrome finish and bat motif *hides munchies* mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Chavs are a horrible disease that is spreading across the whole UK. I hate them with a passion - the whole lot of them need a good kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawBag™ Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Originally posted by The_One Chavs are a horrible disease that is spreading across the whole UK. I hate them with a passion - the whole lot of them need a good kicking. This man speaks the truth. Bah, send them all to an island or some such, a lá Escape from New York/L.A. and let them sort each other out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 4, 2004 Author Share Posted December 4, 2004 Originally posted by The_One Chavs are a horrible disease that is spreading across the whole UK. I hate them with a passion - the whole lot of them need a good kicking. well youre not wrong, unfortunately their getting a kicking in this instance has had bad consequences as well as good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wilson Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 GBH of the eyes, that is (Yoinknig and adapting Mr brent there:D) I were my Master of puppets shirt and a bloody full length leather trench ALL the time, and im know as a metaler\mosher. Mabey your Scals have bad eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 that just makes me want to wear my Master Of Puppets T-shirt but i cant cos its the one ive seen Metallica in (all 4 times) and its rather knackered and i want it to do one more before considering which of my squad of Metal t-shirts to promote to its highly coveted spot our chavs brand anyone goth they dont like, even each other. they have less purchase on what a goth is than the goths do themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 All hail Goths!!!!! Man, shoulda seen the uprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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