Cosmo Jones Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I'm tied between Star Wars and Lord of The Rings. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiozi Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Hmm i always liked Indiana Jhones and Godfather theyd be best.. Then i'd put Star wars and Matrix and last LOTR! so its likke this 1. GodFather 2.Indiana 3 Star Wars 4. Matrix 5.LOTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcCoy Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by Mafiozi 1. GodFather 2.Indiana 3 Star Wars 4. Matrix 5.LOTR ...you put LOTR after Matrix? ...that's just completely wrong... part 2 and 3 (but especially part 3) sucked that badly... while LOTR was nice (they left out a few things, but i was astounding nevertheless)... ...as for star wars, i'm more a star trek guy... and i hate the two new ones (jarjar-binks being a great reason)... and i don't really liked the godfather series... and i never really watched indy... ...so it's 1. LOTR 2. Star Wars 3. Indy 4. Godfather 5. Matrix ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by DrMcCoy ..you put LOTR after Matrix? ...that's just completely wrong...[/Quote]That's completely TEH fact. and i never really watched indy...How can you have ever only one single happy moment in your worthless life, PUNK? INDIIEEE! I say. Anyone who's not with me, is against me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 1. Star Wars 1. Lord Of The Rings 1. Indiana Jones 1. Lethal Weapon 1. Alien 1. Die Hard 7. Back To The Future 8. Matrix 9. The Godfather I stopped watching The Matrix after I saw the second part in cinema. Wait, part 2 and 3 don't even exist. I deny them. I voted for Star Wars since I think it's fúcking ground-breaking. I don't want to put LOTR down, but you can expect stuff like that nowadays (even though a lot of movies don't have it). When I watched Star Wars 4 the other day I couldn't help but be amazed from all the sets, gadgets and overall design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JofaGuht Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 1. The Matrix trilogy - those three films continue to amaze me 2. Indy - Quite rompin', especially the first and third 3. Star Wars - for the first one. The other two, except the second just a little bit, never did much for me. 4. LOTR - I feel the only one that was truly decent of the three was the Two Towers, the first I had no care for the characters and was overall inconsistent, and the last hour of the third lagged to no mercy. Also, Howard Shore needs to learn subtlety. One of the worst uses of a musical score ever. I have never seen any of the Godfather movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 1. star wars OT 2. star wars PT 3. Indy 4. LOTR 5. Matrix 6. godfather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I'm not really gonna put the Matirx trilogy anywhere. As for not including Back to the Future, well, that's just wrong. Granted, it probably wouldn't have stood much of a chance against those favotrites (which is why I won't bother editing the poll) but still. I had a small conflict of interest between star wars and Indy, but star wars won because they followed one from each other, as apose to a new adventure in the next movie (indy). Of course if BTTF was in there, I may have voted for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Technically it's not a trilogy, but if we discount IV and V for this little poll, I'm a sucker for Rocky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I'm listening to The Rocky Story right now. There's some serious ear candy on the CD! I especially like the Vince DiCola stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Originally posted by JofaGuht Also, Howard Shore needs to learn subtlety. One of the worst uses of a musical score ever. R-i-i-i-i-ght. Have you listened to his The Silence Of The Lambs score? Or eXistenZ? Or Dogma? You better think before calling him on one movie series he did (and did excellently, IMHO). Really bad use of a musical score? Watch Léon or The Fifth Element. Now that's bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Hey man you can't knock Serra and Besson! Leon is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush122 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 I hated LOTR. The books, the movies, everything. It deserved four of the eleven Oscars it got--- the ones for technical achievement. In my opinion, they weren't great movies at all, or even good ones. Just four hours of sappy and triumphant music, paired with very annoying characters that repeat exactly what the other one just said. Star Wars (the original trilogy) was great, but I had a bone to pick about the Return of the Jedi. Now, we all remember in Empire Strikes Back, that when Luke disobeys Yoda to go after Han and Leah, Ben Kinobi is all "He was our last hope," and Yoda goes "No, there is another..." As it was made clear in Jedi, he was talking about Leah. Well, it would've made TONS more sense if Luke was sueded by Vader and joined the dark side, and Leah would have gone all Jedi on them and killed Vader and the Emperor, and either killed or saved Luke. I mean, not only does that make sense, it's a badass ending. I mean, seriously, we've all wanted to see Leah kick some ass since the moment we laid eyes on her. Really, what's better than a gold bikini and a light saber? VOTE LEAH FOR JEDI - 1980 Anyway, I thought the Indy Trilogy was the best. Sure, Temple of Doom sucked, but MAN did Lost Ark and Last Crusade rock my world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 1)Lord of the Rings, by a mile. 2) Star Wars 3) Indiana Jones - this and Star Wars are probably more entertaining than LOTR, but hell, I look for more than just entertainment in films. 4) Back to the Future 5) Matrix - first one was good, the other two were fun but flawed. I can't comment on Godfather since I haven't seen it (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcCoy Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Originally posted by Guybrush122 I hated LOTR. The books, the movies, everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonmhutchins Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Cheech and Chong UP IN SMOKE THINGS ARE TOUGH ALL OVER STILL SMOKIN how can you ignore these guys? especially Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Originally posted by Guybrush122 Han and Leah, Ben Kinobi ... about Leah ... wanted to see Leah kick some ass Dude, you're thinking about Leah Remini. It's Leia! And Kenobi. Originally posted by Guybrush122 Anyway, I thought the Indy Trilogy was the best. Sure, Temple of Doom sucked, but MAN did Lost Ark and Last Crusade rock my world. Wrong. TOD wasn't bad. People just always remember the bad parts. Chattar Lal: "Dr. Jones, wasn't it the Sultan of Madagascar who threatened to cut off your head if you ever returned to his country?" Indiana Jones: "No, it wasn't my head." Chattar Lal: "Then your hands, perhaps?" Indiana Jones: "No, it wasn't my hands. It was my..." [looks down] Indiana Jones: "My misunderstanding." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JofaGuht Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Originally posted by Alien426 R-i-i-i-i-ght. Have you listened to his The Silence Of The Lambs score? Or eXistenZ? Or Dogma? I said USE of the musical score. The music itself wasn't that bad but for the film it was overbearing and headache-inducing, especially for the first. And Howard Shore's early nineties stuff was pretty good, such as Single White Female, Silence of the Lambs, and Ed Wood. I have not seen eXistenZ, and the score to Dogma was a little too cartoonish for me (except for some of the stuff at the end). You're right though, I really shouldn't be blaming Shore. Maybe it was the music supervisor or Peter Jackson. It's just in LOTR they'd have tamborins and brass and cymbals overplaying it while people are just having a conversation or something. In fact, it seemed like there was very few points of the film where there was no music. Because of this, when a huge battle kicked in, it would seem completely unimportant. I think like 95% of the film had music going on and 80% of that music was all epic and brass. I don't really remember the Fifth Element's music, but I know that one opera scene was pretty sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Originally posted by Alien426 Wrong. TOD wasn't bad. People just always remember the bad parts. Yeah, I'd agree with that. I actually prefer it to Raiders. When I first saw it I didn't like it either (it doesn't even have Nazis!) but it's really grown on me since. I'm not sure JofaGuht is right, though... I think the LOTR score was handled really well. The fellowship theme (that typical DAN DAN DA DA DAAAAN) is done so it plays strongest when the fellowship is strongest, and the only point where it was really "tamborins and brass and cymbals" was when the Felowship set out from Rivendell (because the Fellowship is strongest at that point - and no, there's no characters talking with this music either). 95% is not true, but even if it was right, what's wrong with that? Or, when you boil the matter down, what's wrong with "epic and brass"? Interestingly the music hardly ever plays during a big battle, which is rare in films. Instead it plays when there's high emotional development, and to me it's refreshing to have big battles without sound. There's no glorification, just the clang of metal on metal. There's also some amazing use of sound in general, like thje deaths of Borimir and Gandalf (when all other sounds apart from the music fade), or the great use of themes (like how you'll hear, say, the Fellowship alter in intensity depending on what state the fellowship is in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JofaGuht Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Originally posted by Gabez 95% is not true, but even if it was right, what's wrong with that? Or, when you boil the matter down, what's wrong with "epic and brass"? Well, it's extremely distracting. The look of the film is already flashy enough to give me a headache. I'm trying to listen to the dialogue here. And not all of it is epic and brass, though I still think a lot of it is. Either way, the music's always there. It never leaves. It never gives you a break. And mostly, it doesn't serve the purpose of just adding texture or emphasis to the movie...it stands out too much. Sometimes it felt like the music was there just for the sake of being there (FELT LIKE, by the way. Just wanted to clear that up before someone called me on it.) It also could do with conditions. For example, I watched The Two Towers on the small TV in my room. It was only a little noticable then. But, in a movie theatre, it's f*cking unbearable. And it wasn't just the music that made me have a problem with LOTR. Guybrush stated a lot of those problems for me. Overall, I watch films for escapist and entertainment reasons. Watching LOTR felt like homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush122 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Originally posted by Alien426 Dude, you're thinking about Leah Remini. It's Leia! And Kenobi. Ah, so it is. I just checked http://www.imdb.com for the spelling, and you're right. But that doesn't make it any less cooler if she had busted in with a light saber and WHOOPED VADER ASS! Wrong. TOD wasn't bad. People just always remember the bad parts. Chattar Lal: "Dr. Jones, wasn't it the Sultan of Madagascar who threatened to cut off your head if you ever returned to his country?" Indiana Jones: "No, it wasn't my head." Chattar Lal: "Then your hands, perhaps?" Indiana Jones: "No, it wasn't my hands. It was my..." [looks down] Indiana Jones: "My misunderstanding." Wrong? How can I be wrong on an opinion? I watched the thing recently, and though the dialogue was snappy like the original, it just wasn't good at all. Acting was sub-par from...well...everyone who wasn't Harrison Ford, and come, on, really, the whole thing was a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 > JofaGuht: I have not seen eXistenZ You should. > JofaGuht: In fact, it seemed like there was very few points of the film where there was no music. I think like 95% of the film had music going on and 80% of that music was all epic and brass. Either way, the music's always there. It never leaves. It never gives you a break. And mostly, it doesn't serve the purpose of just adding texture or emphasis to the movie...it stands out too much. Then why do you like Star Wars? Its soundtracks fill 2 CDs per episode, it's practically always there and it's not exactly holding back either. > JofaGuht: I don't really remember the Fifth Element's music, but I know that one opera scene was pretty sweet. > LucasTones: Hey man you can't knock Serra and Besson! Leon is amazing. I knew this would happen. Again. I merely was saying that it was badly used. On its own the music may be nice and I don't have a problem with it. Give this man a record deal, by all means! Whoever slapped the music in the context it appears in and whoever decided on the volume should have his ass kicked. What's Happening Out There? underlaying a scene where Mathilda is standing in the corridor, anxious to be let in by Léon. You don't have to know the movie to tell that it doesn't fit. It's too slow, there's no tension. It works to underline the grief she feels, but the scene doesn't call for that. That would be needed only for a very short time of the whole scene. Sometimes you have to sacrifice a good tune and invest some more time to match the music to what's happening on screen. > DrMcCoy: and i never really watched indy... It's on Pro7 next Sunday. That's your chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JofaGuht Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Originally posted by Alien426 Then why do you like Star Wars? Its soundtracks fill 2 CDs per episode, it's practically always there and it's not exactly holding back either. Well, first of all, I'm not the biggest fan of Star Wars, in fact I thought LOTR was more accomplished, but just less fun to watch. It's been a while since I've seen Start Wars, but either way, I noticed the score less, so that probably means in fit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail1 Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Let me put it frankly, Star Wars was overall the best, and if you disagree I'll find you in a dark alley and have my way with you (and I don't mean beat you up ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush122 Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Empire rocked me. Return of the Jedi was cool, too. I wasn't a fan of the first, but it's still fun anyway. Just...short. You know, George Lucas barely wrote any of the trilogy, and I don't think he directed any either. Must be why the new movies suck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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