Joshi Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 *sigh* I may as well. My laptop Dell Inspiron 9200 Intel pentium M725 Processor (1.60 GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 400 MHz FSB) 17' WXGA+LCD Screen 512MB 333MHz DDR RAM 40Gb Hard drive Fixed Internal 8x DVD/24X CD-RW combo drive 128 ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 Graphics card Intel pro Wireless 2100 802.11b Mini PCI Wireless LAN card (Centrino) (note, i now have a seperate 54MG card for faster wireless) Windows XP with SP2 It also has a whole lot of otehr crap icouldn't be asked to put down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Originally posted by Sivy this is my baby, she's almost 3 years i hope to upgrade the RAM to 1GB and buy a new video card soon. Oh yeah, I guess you're full of anticipation to stick it in and leave it there for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjølen Posted February 10, 2005 Author Share Posted February 10, 2005 Originally posted by DrMcCoy ...And exactly for that I pity you... Isn't pity reserved for the unhappy? Windows is a perfectly fine operating system nowadays. After they started basing it after WinNT, that is. 2000 is probably Microsoft's best OS. Originally posted by Joshi It sucks that you no longer have the choice in whether you want sp2 or not, it usually screws people up who like to customize their computer with their own security stuff. Didn't give me too much hassle. I disabled what I needed disabled and it hasn't complained since I told it not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcCoy Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Originally posted by Kjølen Isn't pity reserved for the unhappy? ...*shrug*... Originally posted by Kjølen Windows is a perfectly fine operating system nowadays. ...It still sucks, IMHO... Originally posted by Kjølen 2000 is probably Microsoft's best OS. ...It may be their best OS, but that only means the Windozes before 2000 sucked so much more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail1 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Keep in mind that I saved my lunch money for the whole year ($10 a week) to build this in 9th grade. Now that I have a job and enough cash, I will upgrade/build a new one sometime. OS: Windows XP Pro SP 1 (1 > 2) CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (2.0 ghz) Motherboard: Mainboard K7S5A PRO GPU: Geforce 4 TI 4200 128MB Hard Drive: Maxtor (I think) 7200 RPM 80 gig IDE RAM: 256 (sad, real sad) DDR Optical Drive 1:*FORGOT BRAND* CD-RW 48x24x48 Optical Drive 2: *FORGOT BRAND AGAIN* DVD-RW *FORGOT SPEED too... IT'S LATE AND I'M LAZY* Mouse: Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 (my baby) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcCoy Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Originally posted by toenail1 Mouse: Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 (my baby) ...Your mouse is your baby? Interesting... I'm more of a keyboard guy, got a nice old Cherry keyboard, with real keys that make a sound and have some resistance when pressed (I hate keys which can be pressed like butter, without any resistance whatsoever)... From before the days of "Windoze-keys", of course... *thinks about his keyboard* *touches it affectionately* *drools* *swoons* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 There's WAY too much affection being shown to your hardware to be healthy here, guys! It's time to step away from the computers and engage in some genuine human interaction. Besides,.. Logitech hardware owns you! (Or translated: pwns yoo!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcCoy Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Originally posted by edlib There's WAY too much affection being shown to your hardware to be healthy here, guys! ...Like I care... Originally posted by edlib It's time to step away from the computers ...NO!!!!11one Originally posted by edlib engage in some genuine human interaction. ...Genuine Human... what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjølen Posted February 12, 2005 Author Share Posted February 12, 2005 Besides, it's pwns j00! anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrik Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I don't mind Linux users. In fact, I speak to loads of them on a daily basis. But what really irritates me are those that feel the need to constantly pipe on about how superior it is to Windows. Seriously, Linux is probably one of the most non user-friendly operating systems around. Even the GUIs that attempt to make it look remotely respectable are absolutely horrible, demonstrated to an epic degree in the screendumps in your first post, McCoy. It looks way too ugly for the average user, and the extra level of "control" that you get with Linux is completely irrelevant for most people. Whilst I can appreciate that explorer is a fairly ugly shell, there are alternatives out there which completely piss all over anything that Linux has to offer. Not only that, but Windows does pretty much anything that most users could ever want. Seriously, I cannot think of anything that I could possibly want in a computer that isn't already offered by Windows. If you can name anything, I'll quite happily change my opinion. Windows also has the huge advantage of being simple enough for people with minimal computer experience to install and use. If you think of that as a bad thing, you're a misguided tool. I've no problem with people using alternative operating systems such as Linux, OSX, or any of the other *nix varieties out there. I just find it infuriating when those same people try to play the superiority card and make out that Windows is a genuinely bad operating system. Buhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcCoy Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Originally posted by Thrik I don't mind Linux users. In fact, I speak to loads of them on a daily basis. But what really irritates me are those that feel the need to constantly pipe on about how superior it is to Windows. ...Meh, I wasn't serious... I really don't mind if people use Windows, it just doesn't suit my needs... Originally posted by Thrik Seriously, Linux is probably one of the most non user-friendly operating systems around. ...Linux is user-friendly... It's just not idiot-friendly... And it's a bit picky about who it calls a friends... Originally posted by Thrik Even the GUIs that attempt to make it look remotely respectable are absolutely horrible, demonstrated to an epic degree in the screendumps in your first post, McCoy. ...I don't care about the looks, I need it functional, therefore I use enlightenment and ratpoison or only the console... If I would want it to look pretty, I would have used GNOME or KDE (or any of the other thousands Windowmanager/Environments)... With Linux, you've got the choice to let it look and feel how you want it... Originally posted by Thrik Whilst I can appreciate that explorer is a fairly ugly shell, there are alternatives out there which completely piss all over anything that Linux has to offer. ...The Total Commander (used to be called "Windows Commander"), for example, is a nice windows application.. Or the Servant Salamander... And for Linux, there are dozens of similar things... ...But I still rather use a shell, I can do far more with it... Originally posted by Thrik Not only that, but Windows does pretty much anything that most users could ever want. ...For my liking, it does far too much, it thinks it's smarter than the user and I hate that... ...But if that's what users want, they can easily try a SuSE distribution, it does the same... Originally posted by Thrik Seriously, I cannot think of anything that I could possibly want in a computer that isn't already offered by Windows. If you can name anything, I'll quite happily change my opinion. ...How about not having problems with virii, trojans and such? How about not hearing the lies comming out of Bill Gates' mouth? How about dozens of thousands of free (free as in speech) apps? How about having control? How about having the choice? Originally posted by Thrik Windows also has the huge advantage of being simple enough for people with minimal computer experience to install and use. ...Ever tried letting your grandma or any other computer inexperient user install windows? It's a hell, they can't... ...And I'm one of the administrators in our school, we've got Windows 2000 on each computer (+ the options to boot a Linux Terminal), guess how many people fail to Log on in Windows using their name and password... Or have problems changing the font size with Word... Or something stupid like that... I'm not saying it'll be different if they would have used Linux (they won't), there's simply no "idiot-proof" programm/OS... Originally posted by Thrik I just find it infuriating when those same people try to play the superiority card and make out that Windows is a genuinely bad operating system. ...Again: It was a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I'm now pro Windows all the way. This video convinced me. You mean this Windows 2000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrik Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Hee, actually my grandma has successfully installed it. I was there just in case she managed to somehow screw it up, but she did it. I just had to rush her along at times by pointing out where to go, rather than giving her time to read the instructions properly. I have no doubt that she would have still gotten, it though. Certainly a lot easier than if she had used a Linux distribution. As for your points, what? Why should Bill Gates' lies concern me? That's just being anal, since these "lies" (care to elaborate) haven't actively affected me at all. Trojans and virii? That's what antivirus programs are for -- I've not run into a single virus in years. If Linux were to enjoy the same popularity as Windows, it too would be infested with such programs. You currently have the benefit of the niche. And Windows has nothing to do with the software I use. Adobe's Photoshop is never going to free, so I don't lose sleep at night over it not being. I don't really use any of Windows' programs, and the programs that I do use are generally available for free, just like they are with Linux. The only things I actually pay for are games, and the few "serious" programs such as Photoshop and Maya. Everything else is freeware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcCoy Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Originally posted by Thrik Certainly a lot easier than if she had used a Linux distribution. ...Speculation... I had my mother (no real computer experience) install and use SuSE... She had no problems, I showed her the menus and she got quite addictive to Frozen Bubble... Originally posted by Thrik That's just being anal, since these "lies" (care to elaborate) haven't actively affected me at all. "The truth is: the fewer operating systems there are within a company, the better it is from a security point of view." [On virii:] "Linux is, in many respects, even more significantly affected." [On vulnerability:]"The speed with which, for example, the Linux community reacts to problems is not especially high -- that's because this system, unlike ours, simply does not keep thousands of people on standby to deal with problems." Quoted from http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,340395,00.html ...It simply shows what Bill'll do just to disgrace others... Adding that Microsoft is know to patent many trivial things and has no problems with spying on their customers, I wouldn't trust them (and their OS) a bit... Originally posted by Thrik If Linux were to enjoy the same popularity as Windows, it too would be infested with such programs. ...This is partly, but not completely true... In Windows, many parts are "buried" and entangle deep into the system, like the explorer... This is a major vulnerability... Originally posted by Thrik I don't really use any of Windows' programs, and the programs that I do use are generally available for free, just like they are with Linux. ...They are really free? You get the code and can change/improve the program if you want? I can do that with all programs I use... And even with the kernel (which is perfectly adjusted to my system, btw)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrik Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I'm not a software developer, I'm a designer. I have no interest in scouring the source code of programs in order to fine-tune them, I simply take them as they come -- which goes for a high majority of people. It's a factor that simply doesn't come into my equation. I do appreciate that you have your own reasons for using Linux. I have no problem with that, and Huz once wrote a great little article about how Linux is a great operating system for developers, whether it be hobbyist or professional. For a lot of people though, Windows is a perfectly good operating system, which does everything that they need. My main problem is the whole "Windows sucks, Linux is God" opinion that some Linux users flaunt. Whether you are joking or not, it's annoying. When every other Linux user is doing it (I see "jokes" like yours on IRC multiple times a day), it goes well beyond humour. I'm not sure what the deal is, it's not like you get Windows users going "Linux? More like LinSUX. Windows ownz!!!!1111oneoneone". There just seems to be something about Linux and superiority complexes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcCoy Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Originally posted by Thrik My main problem is the whole "Windows sucks, Linux is God" opinion that some Linux users flaunt. ...There's an equal amount of "Linux sucks, Windows is God" people... Originally posted by Thrik Whether you are joking or not, it's annoying. ...Ok, I'm sorry... But you could as well ignore it... Originally posted by Thrik (I see "jokes" like yours on IRC multiple times a day) ...Then you must be equally annoyed by coke/cock jokes... And "Help, my [furniture] is on fire" lines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Originally posted by Thrik Whilst I can appreciate that explorer is a fairly ugly shell, there are alternatives out there which completely piss all over anything that Linux has to offer. *laughs* *falls* *pees* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjølen Posted February 12, 2005 Author Share Posted February 12, 2005 Originally posted by DrMcCoy ...Then you must be equally annoyed by coke/cock jokes... And "Help, my [furniture] is on fire" lines... Bash.org rocks. Speaking of which, here are two bash quotes that feature your loveable K-jo, ME: http://bash.org/?453043 http://bash.org/?286770 I'm Sukato, btw. Unfortunately both of them make me look like a horrible idiot, when I was just being sarcastic or something. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I use Joshi 5.17, it kicks the arse off of both Windows and Linux! And it comes with a coffee drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail1 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Originally posted by edlib Besides,.. Logitech hardware owns you! (Or translated: pwns yoo!) Hey, **** you man. Even if you hate Microsoft, you have to love their mice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Meh... I don't hate Microsoft. I own a (legally purchased) copy of every OS they have released since 95... and several different versions of Office. So I have no problem with thier software. Some of thier business practices on the other hand... And thier hardware has never thrilled me. It's functional but not sexy. I have one of thier wireless optical mice, and it's OK I guess. The same comp has a MS keyboard too. Again... it's OK, but it's nothing that gets me excited, hot, and bothered. My main comp is Logitech everything... I just really dig thier stuff. The next thing I need to get is one of Logitech's wireless Laser mice! Sexxxxxy! Thier new keyboards are lust-inducing as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjølen Posted February 13, 2005 Author Share Posted February 13, 2005 I have a Microsoft mouse. It's optical, it works great, it looks good too. What can I say, it's a mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Fair enough. I just find the tracking on the MS mice a little too glitchy for my tastes. Chews up batteries pretty quickly too. The Logitech wireless mice have that slick recharge base station... it's little touches like that make the difference for me. But it all comes down to preference I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 Why do you use wireless mice? It always makes me wonder where the advantage lies in having cables connect to a sender instead of the mouse itself. You just have another thing on your desk while the mouse will still be bound to a flat surface which is most likely to be the desk, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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