kbned Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Originally posted by Gsccc ...The basic storyline is, the sith have been defeated for centuries and the lack of need for jedi has caused the order to be disbanded. What really was happening was the sith were in hiding and now that the Jedi are gone have decided to resurface, but quietly. They hit a damper in their plans when a merchant vessle orbiting Yavin spots one of their bases. The senate send Adon Tann, a decorated war hero, and his new recruit, thats you to go and investigate... i dont see why the jedi would disband just because there are no sith to fight. even if the republic wanted nothing to do with the jedi, there would still be a jedi order. if you want to do a story about a hidden jedi order then you would have to give a reason why the jedi are hidden. hunted by the sith is already too common but its really the only thing the jedi would hide from. maybe you can do something about all their padawans following some dark jedi master. they would have to stay hidden to keep the dark jedi from recruiting anymore. the dark jedi has found a way to manipulate those weaker in the force, he plans to turn them to his side but to the jedi masters it looks as if the padawans willingly joined with him. the dark master converts most of the padawans, the others are held captive. the main character will fight these dark jedi but they will have actual names and dialog rather than swarms of people with lightsabers. he turns one of the first one he fights after defeating him/her and recruits that jedi to help him save the others. anyway thats just an example, i'm sure you'll think of something better. if you liked any of those ideas and want more just say so. you should probably get at least 3 people together to do the story. it'd make it a lot better if 2 people can question the other to make sure everything makes sense and adds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProphet Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 I may have made myself unclear, disbanded is a little bit of an overstatement. What I ment is that they have weakened greatly(They are unsuspecting as well as low in number). I have been getting a lot of pms about story ideas that are a bit too much in the style of kotor/nwn. I am trying to steer away from that and gear toward the real star wars movies and Jedi Knight. I will also be changin the music to the original star wars music, the kotor stuff is just too neverwinter nightsy if you get my meaning. And something i would like help with is changin the sounds. I tried to do this in KOTOR 1 but it didnt work, and you cannot decompress them with Miles tools so if there is any other way and somebody KNOWS what i am doing wrong please help out because i want to change the saber sounds blaster sounds and a few others to be more like the real starwars as well. Once again thanks for all the help. -GSCCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Gscc, if you intend to pick up the story after Episode 6, it's already written...Shadows of the Empire. You could get tons of your main plot and story from those books. It sounds like you are intending to make a side story to those books... which is fine and great. However, I would use those books as sort of your creative "bible." Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProphet Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by Harker Gscc, if you intend to pick up the story after Episode 6, it's already written...Shadows of the Empire. You could get tons of your main plot and story from those books. It sounds like you are intending to make a side story to those books... which is fine and great. However, I would use those books as sort of your creative "bible." Just a thought. No, no, no. This is not a episode 7 ist not right after, forget i even mentioned that. Consider this as random as episode IV was when it came out. It is a completely different story. -GSCCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archonon Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Originally posted by Harker Gscc, if you intend to pick up the story after Episode 6, it's already written...Shadows of the Empire. You could get tons of your main plot and story from those books. It sounds like you are intending to make a side story to those books... which is fine and great. However, I would use those books as sort of your creative "bible." Just a thought. I think you mean Heir to the Empire, the Thrawn Trilogy. Shadows of the Empire takes place between Ep5 and Ep6, with Dash Rendar, Black Sun, Prince Xizor. Anyway what planets will you plan on visiting in this new mod Gsccc? Will you use the retuxtured Taris of the Coruscant cutscene ingame to make Coruscant? What other places would you like to implement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProphet Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 Here are the planets/areas i plan to implament: Yavin Korderon Coruscant Dantooine NarShadda Korriban Hoth --------------- Non-Planatary ------------------ Malkazi Temple(Floating in space) Leveni Temple(Floatin in space) JOVA(Equivilent to the Deathstar in Return of the Jedi) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProphet Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 Ok so i ran into trouble with DLGedit today. IT seems that you can edit TSL dialogues with it but you cannot create new ones. So im going to use NWNEditor to get a template and just work off that. This could take a while... -GSCCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juha Avery Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 So the mod is actually going to be allmost as big as the oroginal TSL or even biggeR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellderon Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I might be abel to lend a hand... I'm good at modeling and know my way around Photoshop. but the keyword is a BIt.. I work on several other modding projects for other games too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Csccc: if you are looking for the movie posts, you'll find them in this thread:http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=143292 Please start new threads for thechnical questions so that the discussion may serve other members too otherwise it becomes very hard to filter the useful information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellderon Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Originally posted by Juriel I would steer clear of overly ambitious things...many NPCs are such. Look at TSL - it has way too many partymembers, and thus none of them are offered enough time. Rather, create three or four partymembers who are with you right from near the start of the game (instead of being late additions, long after you have already found a likeable group) - people should be able to find at least two tolerable ones from those ones. And this allows you to more properly script those partymembers into things. And most of all, afford them enough time to actually make them characters. no, it's not the problem in NPCs.. they are all OK.. The problem is you can only tag 2 along...or is it? In BG2 you had more party NPCs and you could "only" tag 5 along. In order to experience tham all you had to play the game a few times over. but that wasn't a problem wiht BFG2, since it offered more replayability - different quests and areas for different chars in party and different player race/class. KOTOR/KOTOR 2 don't have that - that's their weakest point, not the charachters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 If you're still looking for voice actors, I'm your man. Just send me a pm if you are interested. Edit : And I'm also available to do skins. I'm going to make one to see if anyone likes it, and if they do I'll carry on. I made a skin for ja before, but I never carried on with it. Here it is if you want to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwarrior Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 GSCCC, I've got a lot of experience with story writing and a good background in English so I'd love to help you, either with story ideas or helping to refine current ones. I'd also love to help skinning some things as I am looking to get into modding games and being a small part of the big whole would be a good way to get started. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwarrior Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Originally posted by kbned i dont see why the jedi would disband just because there are no sith to fight. even if the republic wanted nothing to do with the jedi, there would still be a jedi order. if you want to do a story about a hidden jedi order then you would have to give a reason why the jedi are hidden. hunted by the sith is already too common but its really the only thing the jedi would hide from. maybe you can do something about all their padawans following some dark jedi master. they would have to stay hidden to keep the dark jedi from recruiting anymore. the dark jedi has found a way to manipulate those weaker in the force, he plans to turn them to his side but to the jedi masters it looks as if the padawans willingly joined with him. the dark master converts most of the padawans, the others are held captive. the main character will fight these dark jedi but they will have actual names and dialog rather than swarms of people with lightsabers. he turns one of the first one he fights after defeating him/her and recruits that jedi to help him save the others. anyway thats just an example, i'm sure you'll think of something better. if you liked any of those ideas and want more just say so. you should probably get at least 3 people together to do the story. it'd make it a lot better if 2 people can question the other to make sure everything makes sense and adds up. It's possible they could go into hiding simply because the world became to dependant on them or loathed them too much. Depends where in the time-line you add it but in a time where the Sith/Dark side Jedis are relatively scarce, Jedis could possibly thrive and be trained but then be relied on too often for dealing with galaxy problems so they remove htemselves from the public eye to allow the Universe to develop without them. On the flipside, depending on the time, Jedis maybe loathed for failing to act in something or having too much power because of hteir numbers and obvious force abilities. Following KOTOR2, there are only about 6 known Jedis including Revan, Bastila and the Exile so thats another reason. Few Jedis left to train jedis. From that, a host of unrestrained natural force users could develop neither Jedi nor Sith. Following people like Kreia and Nihilus, the council (remaning - must be some hidden jedi still) may realise that the results of a Jedi, especially a skilled one falling to the dark side has too much impact on the Universe and so decides to keep their numbers relatively small, only training and controlling few numbers to be extremely powerful and consumed in the light side. They could disband for their own good feeling that too many different Jedis influencing one another can have adverse results similar to the Exile forging powerful bonds with Jedis or a corrupted master influencing several students so they adopt the Sith law of master and apprentice without the killing your master part. It's all dependant on time-line but workable either way, reasons can be developed for any scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellderon Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hey, Gsccc! People are offering help on the project and you're dead silent... Bad buissnes politics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProphet Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 My appologiez, the only reason i have been silent the last coupple of days is because i have been hard at work at the bones of this mod. I understand your excitment and respect your help. So far here is my calculation of the team I have assembled so far. Voice Actors: -peloquin -Ranis Hull -Harker -Pal™ Modding Help(Pluging in data,scripting) NADA Storyline Refinement -darkwarrior -Harker Beta Testing/Other -Dan_P_Fuller -Bimmerman850CSi -Captivus -Ellderon First off I would like to say thank you to all the helpfull volunteers for coming to my call of aid. I am at the point right now where I have finished the outline of the mod and know what direction I am going. I ran into a setback that could have posed a large problem, but thanks to the most wonderful Darth333 that is all sorted out. As for voice actors your calling will be soon, I am getting to the sith base part on Yavin, and there are quite a few cutscenes there for you to speak in. For the storyline refinement people, we will have to work in a chat invironment so that my pm box does not get full. My MSN hotmail email for MSN Messanger is Please Use PMs , my AIM ScreenName is CMacMan888. Those go to anyone else who whishes to speak to me. And for the Beta Testers, you guys play an extremely important role, when i complete the first beta, you can be sure that you guys will be first to see it. Thanks again, -GSCCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Sweet! Crazy thing... MSN and AIM just refuse to work at my studio. Yahoo works fine... weird eh? Anyways, I look forward to emails and pms (the communication form, not the female thing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProphet Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Originally posted by Harker Sweet! Crazy thing... MSN and AIM just refuse to work at my studio. Yahoo works fine... weird eh? Anyways, I look forward to emails and pms (the communication form, not the female thing.) HAHAHAHAHAHA thats hilarious, anyways pm's and emails will work, thanks for your help. UPDATE Got the Intro Starwars Crawl working!!!!! Finally thanks to our very own Darth333, it appears that i will no longer be able to auto initiate movies by puting the script in the ScriptSpawn header of the npc as i did in KOTOR 1. But we figured out how to make it work so thats all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sebastian Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I'd be glad to help with the skinning. I can't promise i will be available when the time comes but if i have the time i'd be happy to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peloquin Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 If there's alien voices to be done I would have some fun with that but whatever you need I'm good to go when you are. Can do Male/Female, environments, effects, menu sounds, whatever. When you're ready I'll be here. Later. Peloquin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I talked with our inhouse studio guy and he had some questions as far as what you will need for audio files (i.e. format, rate, hrtz, etc etc.) I have no idea what Kotor uses for it's audio, so I'm throwing it back to you all. He has a Pro-Tools rig, and can bounce out any format (basically) you need Gscc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Great, I'm in. I'll add you to msn later on so we can talk if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwarrior Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 A-ok! I'll be learning skinning in the mean time so I may be able to help with that later but right now I'll concentrate on my given task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellderon Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 A tester? Well I guess I can do that...or not (56k) I can make some itmes tough... fiddling with 2da, textures and modeling are things I'm concetrating at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sebastian Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Originally posted by Harker He has a Pro-Tools rig, and can bounce out any format (basically) you need Gscc. pro-tools is great! i'm stuck with a lousy copy of cubase and some mediocre to right down awful sound gear. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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