legameboy Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Let's hear it for useless competition! I predict that Nintendo will make a comeback... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by InsaneSith Astroboy isn't stupid. My answer: My opinion, and how do you know that "Astroboy isn't stupid" is a fact? Originally posted by InsaneSith So you have to be able to kill people and blow them up to have fun? My answer: Yes, but I do also enjoy racing games just as much as FPS. Originally posted by InsaneSith That could be said for a lot of things, even the PC. My answer: 1,500 (guessing) games where half of them are pooh. Quantity, does not make up for quality. And I can avoid them, but those stupid 11 yearold kids buying the Ninja Turtles games don't know any better. Originally posted by InsaneSith Like ET said, if you don't know what you speak of, don't speak at all. My answer: Now all of you are experts? When they sell DVD players for $40? (I have one that was $30 on sale.) ____________________________ Other notes: My entire entertainment center is all Sony brand, and my alarm clock is too. I still want to get a Game Cube for the Zelda games. More stuff: Yah, before you start bitchin about how MS makes you get a $30 remote to play DVDs on the Xbox when you can play them on the PS2 out of the box, I have an excuse: People would just buy the PS2 to play DVDs, not to play or buy games. When no games are bought, they loose tons of money. So MS made sure we had to buy a remote, so they wouldn't loose a ton of money. TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Remind me how 5 years ago they had dvd's for $40 dollars? Also remind me how a cheaply made dvd player is something a company will want to put in their systems? Also, no, there are very few pooh games. Ask mike, I've heard him bitch about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legameboy Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by InsaneSith Also, no, there are very few pooh games. Ask mike, I've heard him bitch about it. I think he meant "poo" as in bowel movement excrements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 And Lynk, when they showed Zelda SpaceWorld 2000, and WindWaker, they didn't show any Zelda 05 screens (cause they didn't exist) However Zelda2005 is a rebirth of what everyone wanted in the first plcae which makes it relevant. But anywayz... People really should take a step back and think. Are all of those people out there just saying crap about Nintendo to look cool and have their friends pat them on the back? Seriously, when it comes down to it which company is taking the big risks to change gaming for the better? It's Nintendo, and I admire them for that because they are willing to try different things and not be cheapened by everyone wanting the same kind of games where you just shoot and blow s*** up. If anyone bothered to play with a DS they'd realise that the touchscreen is actually pretty damn fun to play with, and when you watch people who you know would NEVER touch a videogame suddenly play a Nintendo DS you realise that Nintendo has captured the interests of people who AREN'T gamers. It's not just a case of getting people to push buttons anymore, Nintendo wants to do more with gaming and yet people still critisise them every chance they get cause they're doing something different than the rest who are just sticking to the same old formulas. Sure Microsoft and Sony entered into this generation and gave us all online gaming... but in the end Nintendo is trying to give us FREE online gaming. In a time when the others are promising better graphics and more power, Nintendo is promising better gameplay and have said that you really CAN'T improve on the quality of graphics we have these days other than to display them in High Definition which all 3 consoles will be able to do in the next generation. Also, people critisise Nintendo for their anti-piracy moves. Why? They're just trying to protect their products and the products of those game developers who worked hard to make the damn games. Now all of you are experts? When they sell DVD players for $40? (I have one that was $30 on sale.) You're missing the point, it's easier to pirate things if they run by DVD movie standards. Also it's extremely difficult to make an affective DVD player for that cheap and then you'll get the problems a lot of people have with the PS2 which is talked about below... People would just buy the PS2 to play DVDs, not to play or buy games. When no games are bought, they loose tons of money. So MS made sure we had to buy a remote, so they wouldn't loose a ton of money. Only problem is that the PS2 has such a crappy DVD player, and that's not me critisising Sony cause I like Nintendo better, it's cause it really does have trouble playing so many DVDs... Madman Entertainment got so many complaints that their DVDs wouldn't run on some guys PS2 that they started testing their disks on a PS2 but even then you can't ensure that it'll work for everyone cause there are different variations of the PS2's DVD drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abespam Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 just when we got past the touch screen fiasco.. Nintendo is looking at including a touch-screen controller in its next console, code-named Revolution, according to a source at Electronic Arts. The prototype joypad has no physical buttons or joysticks but can be programmed to display any configuration of buttons, levers and steering devices This was from the technology section in a newspaper in Sydney. Though whose's to say the EA source is reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokemaster Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 What really pushes my buttons is people saying WW's graphics look like crap. I mean c'mon, they were just different. I don't get it, WW has cel-shading and it looks like crap, Killer 7 has cel-shading and it looks awesome. Rare makes 'kiddy' games. It crosses over to Microsoft and suddenly everyone says it makes the 'coolest games evah' and that 'Conker Rulez', etc. People put too much priority on how cool a game is, or how good its graphics are. IMO, the priorities should be these: 1. Gameplay 2. Presentation (Menus, Voice Acting, etc.) 3. Story (if any) 4. Innovation 5. Graphics/Audio Also, EVERYONE I know who's played Warioware touched agrees that the touchscreen could be the best thing that's happened to gaming since the N64 came out with FOUR controller ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 The Wind Waker's graphics were breathtaking. When you were sailing across the great sea and you watched the clouds and saw a storm brewing it looked so damn good. There was so much detail in that game and everything blended in beautifully. I loved the different effects, especially the fire in the game, whenever you had a fire arrow, a torch, or an eruption of lava it produced the best looking firey effects. Yes it was a shock to see a very animated setting, especially since I am a fan of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, both had realistic based graphics while still keeping that "anime" form. When The Wind Waker came I was saddened to see that Nintendo didn't bring back the series the way I liked it, but then again I wasn't against how it looked, just a little surprised. But now with the new Zelda game things will change. The older tried and true formula is being used on the graphics side. The game looks dark, it looks real worldly and it looks like it's gonna be a hellova lot of fun and I can't wait. But other than the graphics I so hope the create a better fighting system than what was in The Wind Waker. TWW's battle system guided you too much and while it performed some damn cool moves, the best fighting moves in any Zelda game, it still felt like I wasn't in FULL control over Link when he performed those great moves. When I am in a battle against a Stalfos I want to be able to perform complex moves and be able to get a strategic advantage over my opponent(s) if I use certain moves in combos. The Legend of Zelda is an action/adventure based RPG so it should require me to think about my battles as well as any puzzles and so on that I need to unlock or get passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 I know you can whack your opponent with you shield with this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Originally posted by TiE 23 People would just buy the PS2 to play DVDs, not to play or buy games. When no games are bought, they loose tons of money. Yet, it was already pointed out that the PS2 has a crappy DVD player, and won't work often, but even if it DID work all the time, you can get a solid DVD player for like, 80 bucks, which is a lot cheaper than a PS2, and it would come with a remote so you wouldn't have to use the controller to play them.... So WHY would anyone EVER buy a PS2 JUST to play DVD's? It'd be like buying a high end gaming PC just to check your email on. PLUS, if they wanted to use a system just for playing DVD's Microsofts method wouldn't stop them, because 30 bucks for the remote is less than 50 bucks for games, and the Xbox has a more reliable DVD player in it. (at least, I've never had ANY problems) Now all of you are experts? When they sell DVD players for $40? (I have one that was $30 on sale.) So lets say it costs them 20 bucks to put a DVD player in the gamecube, assuming is used the same disc media. They don't want to charge MORE for these, so they just eat the 20 bucks on every unit sold. As of January of LAST YEAR Nintendo had sold around 7million gamecubes which means an additional loss of 140 million dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokemaster Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 I remember the AWESOME smoke coming out of the volcanoe. That was just ****ing awesome, it sent chillls down my spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Yeah, Iiked the water and stuff gushing down while you fight ganondorf Anyways-- coupes., how do you know you can hit people with your sheild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 There is a moment in the second trailers where it looks like Link does use his shield but it hasn't been confirmed. I do know that the bomb arrows are back though ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Yeah, bomb arrows are back And if you look at the trailer, at some point Link hits one of those stalfos with his shield... I'll try to give you the exact time. edit: check the second trailer at 1:08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 ah, so he does, right after it fades in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abespam Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 horse fighting is gotta be the kewlest thing ive seen so far tho. So WHY would anyone EVER buy a PS2 JUST to play DVD's? I think its more like this.. A: Should we buy a gamecube or a ps2 B: ps2 can play dvds A: fine we'll get the ps2 this has happened to so many of my friends. Of course i would also think of this additional dialogue B: ps2 can play dvds A: but we already have a dvd player B: but if we ever want to play dvds on the ps2 we can A:....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 lol, when the PS2 first came out I had that same conversation with many of my friends. But we're really getting off topic here so let's get back on. When it comes down to it, we all know that even Nintendo does come up with an uber groundbreaking idea that lives up to the Revolution title of their next gen console, I can guarantee that people will shrug it off as being some stupid gimmick just because Sony hasn't put it on their console. Nintendo has always been the one to put something into their console that everyone just ignored... An example is on the GameCube controller. The L and R buttons are pressure sensetive, but Nintendo did something else to those two buttons. The digital click, press down as far as the button can go then apply a bit more pressure and the analog pressure sensetive button becomes a digital button. 2 buttons in one and it is used VERY well in most games. The ability to use the same button to do 2 different things is extremely useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Originally posted by InsaneSith Also, no, there are very few pooh games. Ask mike, I've heard him bitch about it. DAMN STRAIGHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokemaster Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Originally posted by Lynk Former An example is on the GameCube controller. The L and R buttons are pressure sensetive, but Nintendo did something else to those two buttons. The digital click, press down as far as the button can go then apply a bit more pressure and the analog pressure sensetive button becomes a digital button. 2 buttons in one and it is used VERY well in most games. The ability to use the same button to do 2 different things is extremely useful. I know, like Rouge Leader, where if you press them, you go faster/slower, but if you click them, you'll enter turbo or come to an almost complete stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Originally posted by jokemaster I know, like Rouge Leader, where if you press them, you go faster/slower, but if you click them, you'll enter turbo or come to an almost complete stop. Yeah, I noticed it in the driving levels of my 007 games. Anyone heard about that thing Soney has patented? Some kind of transmitter that sends signals to your brain that let you smell, taste and feel certain effects of the game... If it is successful they plan to use it to allow blind people to see, and deaf people to hear. Its interesting, I heard about it on TV, but havn't found any online links to it. It looks like Nintendo isn't the only one "revolutionizing" gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Originally posted by jokemaster 1. Gameplay 2. Presentation (Menus, Voice Acting, etc.) 3. Story (if any) 4. Innovation 5. Graphics/Audio My list: 1. Gameplay/Fun factor 2. Graphics 3. Sound- sound effects, voices, music 4. Story 5. My own sweet/whoa/awesome factor Innovation? You must never buy sequels TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Originally posted by lukeskywalker1 Anyone heard about that thing Soney has patented? Some kind of transmitter that sends signals to your brain that let you smell, taste and feel certain effects of the game... If it is successful they plan to use it to allow blind people to see, and deaf people to hear. Its interesting, I heard about it on TV, but havn't found any online links to it. It looks like Nintendo isn't the only one "revolutionizing" gameplay. I'm sure people will LOOOOOOVE having their brains tapped into. If that is true, which I'm sure it's not, it would be so damn dangerous that it would be come illegal or become heavily regulated by some higher power (no, not god, I was talking about a government organisation.) You could effectively brainwash people with that kind of technology if you wanted and it could be done in the most subtle way. Also, a lot of people have been talking about the Revolution and Gyroscopic technology and what the hell it actually is... well here we go. Here's an example of primitive gyro technology. It uses a "gyration" sensor which senses when the object is moving up, down, left right, tilting, etc. The Revolution controller may take away the need for a steering wheel of flight stick. Imagine playing Rogue Squadron 4 and being able to turn when you literally tilt your controller left or right, or dive when you pull your controller back... it would open up a lot of new control abilities. But who's to say that that kind of tech is even part of the Revolution? Or who's to say that it's the ONLY advancement that is part of the Revolution? It could be one of many working together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 It's true. I saw it on IGN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Was this around April 1st? XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Originally posted by Lynk Former You could effectively brainwash people with that kind of technology if you wanted and it could be done in the most subtle way. Nah, if this was in a harmful way, it would be used as mental torture. Make people believe people are following you everywhere. Play the Worlds Most Annoying Sounds on CD (Volume 17) for days at a time. Another thingay Originally posted by jokemaster WW has cel-shading and it looks like crap, Killer 7 has cel-shading and it looks awesome. Yah, just looking at that wants me want to get it. I don't care what system that game is on, it still looks ****ed up. Another thingay Originally posted by jokemaster What really pushes my buttons is people saying WW's graphics look like crap. I mean c'mon, they were just different. I don't get it... Yay! Different is always better! Good thing they didn't add something that attached to your ass and played music in game when you farted different smells or it would have been really ****ed up. I still find Zelda WW awesome, and the graphics aren't bad at all, just not what we expected. TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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