Most hated Characters

[RaV™]

Kreia and Bastila were some of the most annoying through out the games

[Mav]

I liked Bastila, and Kreia, and I don't really like to play the game on Darkside, so naturally I don't really kill anybody that I dont have to, especially in TSL, it's sort of contradictory especially for a Jedi W.M. which I play in the game, I didn't kill Atris when I had the chance, didn't kill anybody really except for the Sith Lords, but anyway here are my most hated characters.

 

K1: Carth... very annoying especially for the female PC

 

TSL: Darth Nihilus, he/she/it was the "coverboy" so to speak of the whole TSL campaign and yet he/she/it only appears once, has almost no backround story aside from what you hear from Visas, and she tells you that he wiped out an entire planet yet I slice and dice him with two Master Critical Strikes... that is one weak Sith Lord if you ask me. Well that clearly made me upset.

 

Movies: Anakin... the little one from The Phantom Menace... he ruined that role for all enternity, I wonder how the 6 year-old little turd feels about himself now.

[lukeiamyourdad]

I hated Kreia but she was still a very interesting character. People don't realize that she was the only Sith not to go on killing rampages or bullying kids for lunch money. She's the only one who actually manipulates events, lies and tricks people.

 

I agree with maverick about Nihilus. He does almost nothing in the game.

 

Star Wars' moralities are black and white because that's how Lucas wanted the story to be, a simple struggle between good and evil without the lines being blurred. It was really good for the public during the post-Vietnam War era.

 

Blurring moralities is good but from a personnal stand point, it goes a bit against what Star Wars stands for.

[jedi3112]

Originally posted by Vladimir-Vlada

That Lightsaber thing you must have taken it from me (read the 'If KOTOR was real.. thread:D ) [/b]

 

You mean the lightsaber thing I posted in this if KOTOR was real thread? In that cas I'm just glad to be of any help (and I think we should keep that one in the book of lightsaber accidents).

[montnoir]

Originally posted by nas77

The bits where she disapproves of your actions, like with the beggars, is far more interesting than it is annoying - the movies take such a black & white viewpoint on good and evil but Kreia manages to blur the lines and that produces a fresh angle to the issue of morality which I'd like to see more of in SW. Jolee and Kyle Katarn are the only other examples I can think of.

I have no problem with her duality or her constant dissaproval of your actions. As I mentioned in my earlier post she IS an interesting character. My reasons for disliking her more than the others are

 

1: She is OBVIOUS! I mean, come on! Since the very first conversation, she couldn't have been more obvious even if she had a stick and poked you in the eye with it.

and

2: You can not say anything against her. Other than "I don't agree". When she goes on and on with a 5 minute rant about how you should lie and use your friends and if they don't listen to you, you should kill them. You have a choice where you agree, a choice where you will think about it and a choice where you don't agree. For an obvious intellectual, Jedi Master and a great general, that the Exile is, those responses reduces him to an imbecile and it annoys the f*ck out of me! She can talk for a half an hour and the only thing he can say is... that?! Screw that!

and

3: For such an OBVIOUS antagonist and such an intelligent leader as the Exile is, he takes absolutely no precautions for the eventuality of a betrayal from Kreia. Not even a warning to the others, that something is really off with her and that they should be on their guard against her. Nothing! It bugs like nothing else!

 

These things ruined my game more than the plotholes or the deleted content, ever did.

[Bastila]

To me Kreia is how a sith should be not going onkilling rampages or bullying everyone even chrildren, She actually manipulates events, lies and tricks people whcih to me is how a Sith should be not killing people, they are sneakie and manipulate not showing off with there power and killing people all the time.

[montnoir]

She doesn't lie to the Exile, she tells him straight out and he does nothing about it, but goes on as nothing ever happened, he doesn't even ponder her words just acts like he is going to the sandbox to play with his yellow car.

 

There's a difference between a sneaky lying, manipulating Sith (Darth Sidious, Darth Revan) and Kreia who is just plain OBVIOUS (yeah I know I repeat myself but no one seems to react to that word - OBVIOUS) and just blurts everything out. And the fact that the Exile doesn't do anything about her we attribute to her "manipulating". Yeah right...

[Bastila]

well yeah she doesnt manipulates you but she tells you to kill your friends if you have to, i know the exile takes no notice of what she says but still she manipulates your party members, but you gotta say she was the only intresting person on the game, like with the first game everyone had a story bastilas mum, carths son, etc. and Kreia has kinda a story like being exile training Revan.

[lukeiamyourdad]

Kreia wasn't that OBVIOUS for everyone. So OBVIOUSLY, even if there was hints, because you felt it was OBVIOUS, it didn't for me.

So OBVIOUSLY, I didn't have a problem like you.

 

 

Some figure it out since the beginning that you were Revan in KOTOR1.

[montnoir]

Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad

Some figure it out since the beginning that you were Revan in KOTOR1.

Not a chance and there are no arguments in the world to persuade me otherwise.

 

The Revan revelation was nicely done. There were no hints dropped and no reason to suspect anything else until the Leviathan. The mystery was kept until Malak said as much and you got the flashback. Unlike Kreia who is so OBVIOUS, throughout the game with a slew of dialogues and actions.

 

So you can undestand that I dislike the character because I found her obvious. If I wouldn't have found her so obvious, then I might be of another opinion. Friends?

 

Disclaimer: I respect and accept everyones opinion, even if it seems I don't, in my posts. That is coincidental as I have to write that way, to argue my point. Please don't take it the wrong way.

[FiEND_138]

There were no hints dropped and no reason to suspect anything else until the Leviathan

That I strongly disagree with.

 

Ex; Dantooine. Vrook. "... sure Revans truely dead, ... train this one & the dark lord should return?"

 

Vandar. "A presence she has felt ever since...

Vrook. "... Vandar!

Vandar. "...ever since Taris.."

 

Vrook. "... quest to find the Star Forge could lead you down an all too familiar path"

 

Personaly, those three statements pretty much confirmed my suspicions. Though I wasn't 100% certain, more like 90%, until I stumbled on the twist reading a thread unrelated to kotor on another site....

[montnoir]

Unless you know what you are looking for ie you know who Revan is, that ^^^^ is just Jedi mumbo-jumbo and no way you can figure out Revans identity based on those quotes without prior knowledge. I just can't see it.

[lukeiamyourdad]

Oh I can see it. Having followed KOTOR previews and reading a bit about it on the game and characters on the official site, you could figure it out without specifically looking for it.

 

First, Revan is always mentionned in name only. We never see his face(mask aside) or hear him say anything.

 

Second, Fiend's quotes. Perhaps not leading to a you=Revan conclusion, but would hint to you having somekind of dark past, possibly having been to the dark side already.

 

And finally, how you mastered your training so quickly. You must have some prior knowledge of the Force, or you would never be able to achieve that much in such a short amount of time.

[Vladimir-Vlada]

Did you even play KOTOR 1 lukeiamyourdad? Because you sound like you didn't even try it. In KOTOR 1 YOU are REVAN.

[nas77]

lukeiamyourdad: Either way I think it's pretty safe to say that the twist in Kotor 1 was more difficult to spot than the one in Kotor 2.

 

montnoir: apart from the fact that Kreia's *obvious* (you're starting to make me hate that word now) it seems most of your peeves are against the Exile for being too blind / dumb than against Kreia. Don't blame Kreia's character, blame the Exile's. And bastila is right; Kreia is manipulative. Her exchange with Hanharr, using Tobin to get Nihilus to Telos so he'd be weak, using the Exile to achieve her goals, etc.

[LukeKatarn]

Originally posted by Vladimir-Vlada

Did you even play KOTOR 1 lukeiamyourdad? Because you sound like you didn't even try it. In KOTOR 1 YOU are REVAN.

He has beaten it like 10 times atleast. All he is doing is hinting in the clues of Revam, HOW THE HECK DOES TAH TMEAN HE DOESN'T KNOW HE'S REVAN!? Holy crud, it sounds just LIKE he has beaten the game, not that he hasn't. Kreia was manipulative, which is cool, but when you play LS, she's a pain in the @$$.

[Darth_Kismet]

I can't stand Bao-Dur and don't like Darth Maul. I have nothing against Iridorians, but I don't like the way Bao-Dur talks, he either sounds entirely saracstic or not sarcastic at all (plus he sounds like a guidance councilor at my high school who talks in a very even, low, soft voice that drives you nuts), and I don't like that Maul didn't have a single line (I don't think )

[Shok_Tinoktin]

Originally posted by Darth_Kismet

... I don't like that Maul didn't have a single line (I don't think )

 

Actually, I think he did have a single line. Something along the lines of 'At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we will have our revenge.' There may have been one more line, but I think that's it.

[nas77]

Originally posted by Darth_Kismet

I can't stand Bao-Dur and don't like Darth Maul. I have nothing against Iridorians, but I don't like the way Bao-Dur talks, he either sounds entirely saracstic or not sarcastic at all (plus he sounds like a guidance councilor at my high school who talks in a very even, low, soft voice that drives you nuts), and I don't like that Maul didn't have a single line (I don't think )

Lines or no lines Darth Maul saved TPM from being the worst film ever. Seriously the only reason I'd watch that film again is for the lightsaber duels. Makes him a good character in my book.

 

EDIT: Actually scratch that. It doesn't make him a *good* character, just not one I hate.

[The Hidden One]

Luke had to be my hated character. He was a pansy and him with that

I am your father

scene it was just plain HORRIBLE I wish he would just

[RaV™]

Originally posted by The Hidden One

Luke had to be my hated character. He was a pansy and him with that

I am your father

scene it was just plain HORRIBLE I wish he would just

 

I thought this only over KOTOR hated chars?

[FiEND_138]

^^^

Out of the entire Star Wars era, which character(s) did you hate the most?

 

[RaV™]

My fault, Fiend, by the way whos the mobster? Capone?

[lukeiamyourdad]

Originally posted by Vladimir-Vlada

Did you even play KOTOR 1 lukeiamyourdad? Because you sound like you didn't even try it. In KOTOR 1 YOU are REVAN.

 

Thanks to LukeKatarn for already replying to this half-thought post.

 

And as a matter of fact, I finished it 18 times.

[Renegade Angel]

Kreia

 

 

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