El Sitherino Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 You probably got the one they had at walmart. But mine had dong and nipple. And I have been playing just as long as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I got mine at Target, and you probably did one of two things: Downloaded a skin mod that gave them "dongs and nipples," or you downloaded a family that was nude. TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Or perhaps I just got the patch and that was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Originally posted by InsaneSith Or perhaps I just got the patch and that was it? Proof? TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Tie is right, sims never had any detail. Which makes more sense, because it would take extra time to model something no one's supposed to see. This entire thing is completely dumb. The game makers were dumb for not taking it out of the game before releaseing it. The rest of the people were dumb to get so upset over "game sex" anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I like this quote from XboxAddict.com about the AO rating thing. Originally posted by XboxAddict.com Hysteria and political opportunists win the day as GTA: San Andreas has been upgraded from Mature to Adults Only. Take Two has vowed to make a new version of the game that will conform the Mature rating. Meanwhile, drive by murdering is still "ok". Irony, yes. But I do like the fact that its okay to have violence, cause you know, I enjoy blowing half of a baddie's head off in Soldier of Fortune 2 as everyone else. Its just natural to do stuff like that. TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Originally posted by InsaneSith .. But mine had dong and nipple.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 In terms of Rockstar being idiots, or planning for this publicity it might matter whether the content is already included, or third party. But in terms of what the kid sees, it makes no difference whatever whether the content was included int he game but deactivated, or was added with a skin. Its still a case of downloading a patch and running it... then getting the "adult content". I suspect this will lead to a lot more LA style unreadable legal discalimers to try and stop comanies being held resonsible for any Mods, Patches or Skins that might come out. In today's sue-everyone society they are bound to want to cover their backs. Hopefully it won't prevent people being creative and making cool mods though. Much as i like the GTA games (and they are good games) you do feel that rockstar does this sort of thing alot in order to get the publicity. This time it may have backfired on them as they probably didn't expect the ESRB to change the rating, and the associated re-pressing costs. I think the important thing with regards to an AO rating seems to be "prolonged sexual acts".. rather than just nudity. So god of war, for example, gets an M, but the Hot Coffee mod actually shows them having sex (no penetration or organs, but the action is there). In many ways this makes sense, and is a bit like the film ratings systems in a lot of countries where nudity isn't considered taboo. Their priorities are still out of whack though when they consider non-explicit sex to be worse than violent murder. And as, practically, there is no difference between 1st/3rd party content when a patch is needed they can't expect to rate every upcoming game based on anything that MIGHT be done to it. (like the sims, and every other game which as nude patches) So I guess this was more of a one-off public relations exercise... and i can't say rockstar didn't bring it on themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I had to pull all these off the shelf yesterday. GameStop can no longer buy sell or trade this game. My advice is if you have this game, hang on to it. It may become a collector's item. I am actually kind of relieved that we no longer sell this title. I just don't feel it was good for little kids, and you'd be surprised how many parents could care less about the ESBR ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Originally posted by toms I suspect this will lead to a lot more LA style unreadable legal discalimers to try and stop comanies being held resonsible for any Mods, Patches or Skins that might come out. In today's sue-everyone society they are bound to want to cover their backs. Hopefully it won't prevent people being creative and making cool mods though. Duh. If someone made a mod for HL2 where you could have sex like in Hot Coffee, VALVe would never be condidered responsible. Its just that someone discovered San Andreas' "Dirty Little Sercret" and exposed it to the world. And since it could appear on the consoles, it showed it was already in the game. And ESRB is supposed to take into account every single thing that is included in the coding. Even though from what we know has never happened before (adult content hidden in the game) has never been attemted or found before. For example: I used to do a little mapping for UT2003, so I know how a lot of the stuff works. The game includes lots of textures and stuff, well over 2,000 is my estimate. Well, if there was a single texture that had something adult rated, like a porno picture, they would be busted. These rules would be included even if only an official patch or download included content that was bad. On a final note: You don't see VALVe getting busted by ESRB because people can use pornographic sprays in Counter Strike, do you? TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Originally posted by Darth Groovy I had to pull all these off the shelf yesterday. GameStop can no longer buy sell or trade this game. My advice is if you have this game, hang on to it. It may become a collector's item. I am actually kind of relieved that we no longer sell this title. I just don't feel it was good for little kids, and you'd be surprised how many parents could care less about the ESBR ratings. im appalled :s This shouldnt even be rated AO, at least i bought it, cripes... too bad im not a menopause induced crazy mother who can go on rampages and destroy things i dont even understand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 The coders should have removed it. Doesn't really matter what anyone says. I mean, why waste CD space, when you can remove that section of the code, and speed the program up a bit? We know that parents buy stuff for their kids all time reguardless of the rating system. Most parents don't know what a mod is, and won't buy the game because of this now. I mean, it is included with the game (or was, RockStar should just completley remove it and not risk this happening again) Modders should be more concious of legal problems when starting a mod. Rockstar won't let this go, and the modders will be punished. Mods have been shut down before because of copywrite infringement, which didn't hurt the sales of the game itself. Imagine what will happen to these modders because this mod is affecting game sales (gamestop and walmart have quit selling it. I am guessing walmart... because its walmart...) And about killing being worse than sex... think of how many games involve killing versus sex games? They can't possibly do anything about killing in games - unless they destroy the whole market. Games from Jedi Knight to Super Mario have killing (even if it is just jumping on a koopa's head and flattening it) Sex games on the other hand, while they were around in the 80s, are far less popular. Its easier to crack down on these things. Lets not forget than people under 18 are not *supposed* to view pornographic images I hate it when they put nudity in games for no reason. In fact, I am surprised ESRB didn't jump on Max Payne 2 for having Mona Sax nude. Nudity wasn't marked on the Content Rating. :-\ It just ruins the game, the whole thing was unnessesary... it didn't benifit the story at all. The same with God of War... EDIT: And MGS The Twin Snakes.. I love the game, but can't stand how they made meryle stripe the guard naked, even though it was censored. Totally unnessesary. You mean to tell me Meryle stole his underwear? Or was the guarde walking around guarding prison cells with no underwear on? He was kind of a freak... and really stupid (more or less Comic Relief), but thats beside the point. In the PC Demo he was wearing boxer shorts... I guess they wanted to show off their Pixel Effect in the remake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 The Sims can make you a pedophile. Proof. Compelling arguement, damning evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Wasn't that guy named Johnny? The one with the diarehha? Cause I was playing MGS2: Substance on the Xbox when I D-Mic'd Emma when she was in the second tower, it was so funny, I should get a recording of it EDIT: WTF? This is sad, something that has been around for awhile, no one ever cared about it, now its evil itself the second some joy-killing politic bastard wants to make money by ruining people. TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd_Annhilator Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Such a ridiculous idea, AO No sexxorz, but I'm -still- shooting people and watching them exploding in showers of chunks and gore and whatnot. Make sense? Barely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Yeah his name was Johnny. Hes pretty much a joke, yet still sort of essential to the plot (just not the nudity.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 I blew off someone's head with 2 sawed off shotguns and drove off on a motorcycle I stole (killed the driver with a silenced .99 mm) But damn do I despise polygonal sex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ticket_to_hell Heh, he about wraps it up TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 It's not just a game thing. Kids play these games and grow up with seeing constant cursing, nudity, sex, etc... That is why the government tries to control that. You really want our next generations to be nothing but sex addicts and drug addicts? What kids see growing up does affect them. Some kids are mature enough to not let it affect them much, but many kids are not that mature. Take a look around, the virginity loss age these days are down to 14 years old. Heck, I know someone who lost his virginity at 12. He's 14 now and has had sex at least 50 times. These are the people that will be running our country one day. Teen suicides are rampant...violence is everywhere. Is it all because of games? No, of coarse not...but growing up in an enviroment of constant sex, drugs, drinking, and violence naturally will affect people in a negative way. The rating is to generalize all of this....but I say it really depends on the individual. The government doesn't have time to "check out" every kid, thankfully....so they throw in rules and ratings. In reality though, the big question is "should kids be allowed to watch TV / play violent games?" It depends on the kid...and it's up to the parents to decide whether or not their kid can handle that. Some parents just don't care, though. I've played a lot of violent games and stuff, but I'm mature enough to realize it IS a game and it ISN'T real life. It really hasn't affected me. However, it's not always that way with people. Look at the movies and the games these days. Kids are going to grow up expecting having sex at a very young age is just natural and something everyone does. That image has become so strong, that just ask around now....hardly anyone is a virgin these days....hardly anyone hasn't drank....etc... Parents got too busy in life, that movies and games started teaching children how "life is". Then they get out in life, and see everyone else in life doing the same thing because they were "raised" by the same concept. Anyway, that's what the rating stuff is all about. They know that people living off this stuff can be affected by it...so they try to limit it (but it doesn't do much good). Very few parents bother caring about the whole system...and kids will get those games one way or another. The only people who can possibly limit it are the parents. It's just like porn, really....the virtual porn Do you really think that constant sex, drugs, drinking, and violence is a "good" things to constantly bombard kids with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Take a look around, the virginity loss age these days are down to 14 years old. Heck, I know someone who lost his virginity at 12. He's 14 now and has had sex at least 50 times. Yah, thats pretty freakin crazy, it pisses me off. Can kids be so stupid? Edit: All of the current news has gotten me excited *Bids 5.50 for Xbox San Andreas that has 15 hours left and gets immediatly out-bid* Damn! >_> And this guy is trying to sell them for $72! Link TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 They think it's normal. His old girlfriend asked him if he had sex with the new girlfriend. His response? "Well....duh! She's my girlfriend. You're supposed to have sex with your girlfriend." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 Originally posted by TiE 23 http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ticket_to_hell Heh, he about wraps it up TiE bahaha That was great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod They think it's normal. His old girlfriend asked him if he had sex with the new girlfriend. His response? "Well....duh! She's my girlfriend. You're supposed to have sex with your girlfriend." Heheheh..... thats really weird. Whats with people now-a-days? *pokes can at everyone* You bastards should all be fixed, ehhh.... OlD-TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod That is why the government tries to control that. You really want our next generations to be nothing but sex addicts and drug addicts? No, and they won't be. It's no different than it was back in the "good ol' days." Originally posted by RpTheHotrod What kids see growing up does affect them. Some kids are mature enough to not let it affect them much, but many kids are not that mature. Exactly, which is why parents need to get their heads out of their asses and start raising kids properly. This means, not letting immature kids be exposed to certain types of media that isn't aimed at kids. Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Take a look around, the virginity loss age these days are down to 14 years old. Heck, I know someone who lost his virginity at 12. He's 14 now and has had sex at least 50 times. It's not really that bad. While it's true it's considered "cool" among teens to go out and "get laid," the number of teens who really do is not that high. If your friend is bragging about the chick he bagged last night, don't be so quick to believe it. Originally posted by RpTheHotrod These are the people that will be running our country one day. No, they'll be the ones in jail, homeless on the street, or living in some crappy apartment. The ones who'll be running the country are the geeks and rich kids. Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Teen suicides are rampant...violence is everywhere. Do you honestly think it's any worse than it's been? There's always been troubled teens. There's always been violent crime. We just didn't hear about it as much. Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Is it all because of games? No, of coarse not...but growing up in an enviroment of constant sex, drugs, drinking, and violence naturally will affect people in a negative way. "Environment"? You mean, a video game... your environment? Well, I guess if you sit and play GTA every day all day long then I guess you could call it your environment... Originally posted by RpTheHotrod In reality though, the big question is "should kids be allowed to watch TV / play violent games?" It depends on the kid...and it's up to the parents to decide whether or not their kid can handle that. Some parents just don't care, though. Because some parents get their kid any M-rated game without any thought doesn't mean that the kid who is mature enough to handle it should suffer. Parents who are crap should blame themselves, not what they bought for their kid. Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Parents got too busy in life, that movies and games started teaching children how "life is". Then they get out in life, and see everyone else in life doing the same thing because they were "raised" by the same concept. Parents are too busy - too bad, they have a duty to society to raise their kid properly so they won't become a burden on others. If they fail to be good parents, then they've failed their duty to society. And now their kid is too because their parents spent too much time at the office, or too much time out at the clubs, or whatever they might do in their "busy" schedule. Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Anyway, that's what the rating stuff is all about. They know that people living off this stuff can be affected by it...so they try to limit it (but it doesn't do much good). Very few parents bother caring about the whole system...and kids will get those games one way or another. Yeah, so what does slapping an AO rating on GTA and pulling it from store shelves do? Kids will just pirate it, have big brother get it, steal it from a friend, etc. Originally posted by RpTheHotrod The only people who can possibly limit it are the parents. EXACTLY! So when mom comes into little Jimmy's room and he's blowing off a cop's head or banging a prostitute, she should do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie™ Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Originally posted by TK-8252 ...when mom comes into little Jimmy's room and he's banging a prostitute, she should do something about it. ... Crazy mental images. o.o And by the way, I agree with TK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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