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Pho3nix

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Perverts.

 

Oh yeah, O/T, The clones rock. I suppose it's because they actually act like soldiers and are a lot more "realistic" compared to our attitudes on war. For example, a Swat Team would own Tantive 4 better than Stormies. Why? Shotguns and flash/frag grenades.

 

The way I see it, Episode 4+ was created when Buck Rogers was cool, but Episodes 1-3 were created when the War on Terror is a common source of entertainment, and it leaks into the way millitary units are designed, even into concept art and the way people "do" things.

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For example, a Swat Team would own Tantive 4 better than Stormies. Why? Shotguns and flash/frag grenades.

 

The Stormtroopers were ordered to do the least amount of damage to the ship possible, considering that the DS plans could be anywhere. So that'd be a no to shotguns or grenades.

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Right, so when has shooting with BLASTERS meant minimal damage? There's some nasty property damage with burnmarks and a decent explosion when the door blows up, if I recall.

 

Anyway, Flash grenades aren't destructive. In-out, BAM! They can't hear or see. And shotguns are efficient when the target is gawping at you with a stupid helmet on.

 

Guess I should design a Star Wars "gore" mod then. :p

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Do they HAVE shotguns?

Well, in Star Wars EU, shotguns exist, mainly to fill the sterotype that every FPS must have a pistol, machine gun, heavy machine gun, sniper rifle and shotgun. *yawn*

 

As for Swat Teams:

http://www.specialoperations.com/Domestic/SWAT/swatweapons.html

 

I will quote selectively.Shotguns are employed for numerous different uses in SWAT. Shotguns are very versatile weapons and for that reason are favored by entry teams. Buckshot rounds may be used for several different purposes. Shotgun uses include using special breaching rounds to breach door hinges and locks, using gas rounds to launch tear gas into structures, and even using flares in nighttime operations. The most common breaching technique is to use a pistol-gripped shotgun with special magnesium "TKO" round that will disentegrate on impact.

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I like the clone troopers better. I think they are better developed than the storm troopers of the original series. They have way more variations in color, uniforms etc. and just the whole idea of a complete army of clones kind of fascinates me.

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1 thing that is funny in BF2 is that 1 stormtrooper was saying that darth vader bought all of us better armor and weapons. And when i played as a stormtrooper the weapons weren't as good as the clone troopers. (I know SWB2 isn't suppose to be mentioned in here but I just wanted to bring it up).

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ok. Stormtroopers are clones troopers. the weapons have upgraded with the armour so armour looks weak. but hey if the clones fought the stormies the stormies would have won. i have played game simulaters and stormies kick ass on land. the air well ties where meants to swarm you and take you out in numbers. clones where transports and had jedi on thier side. and well jangos dna did not get destroyed. their was boba fett the same genetic code. he also did not die on tatooine as lots of people believe. read the star wars dictionary. its explains a lot to you guys

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*Yawn*

 

Well I've clocked up 20,000 hours in combat simulation and I can beat a Stormtrooper in Arm Wrestling, spot the sarcasm.

 

The Clones were based on Jango, in film, they were played by millitary personal, hence their excellant and realistic combat skills. In the other films, the stormies were played by people off the street, for all intents and purposes, and they couldn't aim for crap.

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ok. every time you see a stormie shoot thier was a jedi around right? yes old ben he could have fogged thier vesion sence they where weak minded and could be swayed in the ways of the force. when thier wasnt jedi around they had good shots and kicked ass.

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ok. every time you see a stormie shoot thier was a jedi around right? yes old ben he could have fogged thier vesion sence they where weak minded and could be swayed in the ways of the force. when thier wasnt jedi around they had good shots and kicked ass.

 

That still can't explain the overall lack of quality shown by stormtroopers on Endor, Cloud City, or other parts of the Death Star. It's probable that, in the 18 years between Episode III and IV, the army was weakened to some extent, allowing typical flesh-and blood recruits and conscripts with less training than the old clones. If the first Death Star had not been destroyed, Palpatine probably could have stayed in control with merely that weapon. The fact that the army was not brought up to step between IV and VI, to me, seems to indicate that Palpatine basically underestimated the Rebellion and refused to see it as the threat it truly was.

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