THE BADGER: Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Hey guys I just received my newest issue of OPM and it lists all the 17 Hero's/Jedi that will be in BF II. It also lists what maps they will be seen, and what abilities they will have. I don't have a scanner, but I will type them out for you. I will also type a snip it from the article stating how you get a Jedi an such at the bottom. PA1=Primary Attack A PA2=Primary Attack B SA1=Secondary Attack A SA2=Secondary Attack B M= Maps they will be played Luke Skywalker PA1=Lightsaber PA2=Saber Block SA1=Saber Throw SA2=Force Push M= Jedi Temple,Mygeeto,Jabba's Palace, Death Star interior Leia Organa PA1=Sporting Blast PA2=Thermal detonator SA1=Invulnerability SA2=None M= Tantive IV, Theed Han Solo PA1=DL44 blaster PA2=Fusion cutter SA1=Detpack SA2=Rally (Defense buff) M= Utapau, Polis Massa Chewbacca PA1=Bowcaster PA2=Guided Rocket SA1=Time bomb SA2=Rage M= Kashyyyk, Felucia, Yavin Darth Vader PA1=Lightsaber PA2=Saber Block SA1=Saber Throw SA2=Force Choke M= Tantive IV, Jedi Temple, Dagobah, Theed Emperor Palpatine PA1=Sidious Lightsaber PA2=Saber Block SA1=Force Lighting SA2=Force Choke M=Polis Massa, Theed, Death Star interior Boba Fett PA1=E-3 Blaster Rifle PA2=Flamethrower SA1=Wrist Rocket SA2=Detpack M= Kashyyyk, Utapau, Mygeeto, Felucia, Yavin, Jabb'a Palace Yoda PA1=Yoda's Lightsaber PA2=Saber Block SA1=Force Push SA2=Force Pull M= Kashyyyk, Tantive IV, Polis Massa, Dagobah Obi-Wan Kenobi PA1=lightsaber PA2=Saber Block SA1=Saber throw SA2=Force push M= Utapau, Mustafar, Theed Mace Windu PA1=Lightsaber PA2=saber block SA1=saber throw SA2=force push M= Jedi Temple, Yavin, Death Star interior Ki-Adi-Mundi PA1=Lightsaber PA2=saber block SA1=saber throw SA2=force pull M= Mygeeto Aayla Secura PA1=Duel light sabers PA2=saber block SA1=saber throw SA2=force pull M= Felucia, Jabba's Palace Anakin Skywalker PA1=lightsaber PA2=saber block SA1=saber throw SA2=force push M= Mustafar General Grievous PA1=Multiple Sabers PA2=saber block SA1=Rage ( Damage Increase) SA2=None M= Tantive IV, Utapau, Polis Massa, Dagobah, Mygeeto Darth Maul PA1=Double saber PA2=Saber block SA1=saber throw SA2=force push M= Jedi Temple, Mustafar, Jabba's Palace Count Dooku PA1=lightsaber PA2=saber block SA1=force lightning SA2=force choke M= Geonosis Jango Fett PA1=Westar-34 blaster PA2=flamethrower SA1=wristrocket SA2=time bomb M= Kashyyyk, Felucia, Yavin THE JEDI DIFFERENCE OR USE THE FORCE, GRUNT! What's a Star Wars game without Jedi Knights? Right, boring. Luckily, Battlefront II provides several ways for you to acquire your own midi-clorianated warrior: In single player the process of unlocking a Jedi follows the basic rules of the hero system: Achieve specific mission objectives-et voilà-you may find yourself with a Mace Windu or Ki-Adi-Mundi. In the more open-ended galactic conquest mode, you must must win battles to gain special bonuses, one of these being a Jedi. In instant action, you can just pick a Jedi and go lightsaber crazy. In multiplayer action, the games host largely determines the use of Jedi characters, and there can be only one Jedi on the map per game at any givin time. Becoming a Jedi can be by random selection or dependent upon the number of kills a player has (the most prolific killer gets to be the Jedi). The host can also give one Jedi to each team or limit them to a specific side. In the case of the ladder, let's just say the Empire gets the Jedi. If the Rebellion can kill that Jedi, it will then be able to spawn one for itself-leaving the Empire Jedi-less. The Jedi come equipped with a usual variety of Force powers: Push, Choke, Jump, Pull, Lightning, and lightsaber throw, as well as a few specific moves for certain Jedi. They can also block blaster fire. Force energy can be depleted, but it regenerates over time. Hope you guys enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Is this information confirmed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BADGER: Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 Yeah it was in this months issue of OPM. I'm not some little kid who gets his rocks off by lying on these forums. I'm a grown man, and have been on these forums since last year. I don't have a scanner, but I did take the time to type it out for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidAndroid Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Thanks for the list! Great info on heroes. Unfortunetly several maps were not listed under any heroes, most notably Kamino or Hoth, I wonder if this means that these maps have been cut from the final game, or if they just won't have heroes on that level. Also Kit Fisto was nowhere to be found in the list so I guess he is not in the game either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BADGER: Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 Yeah I listed everything that was in the article. I am guessing they are not putting the old maps in BF II. Is there a confirmed list of all the maps in BF II? I wonder if this is all the maps, or will some maps not have hero's in it, like you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master_skywalke Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Coruscant:Jedi Temple Dagobah: Dagobah Swamp Death Star: Death Star Interoir Endor: Endor Bunker Felucia: Geonosis: Dust Plains (or something like that, the video was pretty bad quality so I almost couldn't read it ) Hoth: Echo Base Jabba's Palace: Jabba's Palace Kamino: Clone Facility Kashyyk Mos Eisley: Tatooine: Mos Eisley Mustafar: Refinery Mygeeto Naboo: Theed Polis Massa Space Felucia Space Hoth Space Kashyyk Space Mygeeto Space Tatooine Space Yavin Space Coruscant Tantive IV Utapau Yavin 4 Those maps where in a presentation of BFII, so I think these will be included in BFII. Yeah I listed everything that was in the article. I am guessing they are not putting the old maps in BF II. I heard they will put all the original maps + the new ones in Battlefront II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 No-one Worry about Hoth and Kamino, i've seen a screenshot of echo base with luke skywalker as a rebel pilot with his blue lightsaber (his hair looks stupid). And i've seen a screenshots of Jango Fett and Obi-wan on Kamino, I think it's on the official site's screenshots. The List must not be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidAndroid Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Yeah ive seen that screen, and that list plenty of times before, thats why I was wondering why it wasn't on the list. Maybe they didn't have a complete list of the planets when they made the list so they only listed the ones that were definetly in the game at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavkov Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 woow that many maps!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Yes lots of maps...the game really looks awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 What's a Star Wars game without Jedi Knights? Right, awesome. Unluckily, Battlefront II provides several ways for you to acquire your own midi-clorianated warrior Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Andrew Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I gotta say that this game is going a wee bit overboard with heroes. Hopefully it won't hinder the development of the rest of the core game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMuffin Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Fixed. I don't want to sound harsh or anything, but Jedi are part of Star Wars, whether you like it or not. If you want to play a Jedi-free game, you should really stick to Battlefield 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I don't want to sound harsh or anything, but Jedi are part of Star Wars, whether you like it or not. Well yeah, of course, but does it make sense to put them in a game like Battlefront, where you play as the soldiers? Don't make me quote Mace from AotC... because what he says is exactly why Jedi SHOULD NOT BE PLAYABLE. There are a few maps, Geonosis, Felucia, Mygeeto, and Kashyyyk (NOT Yoda though, but there was Luminara Unduli on the ground), where Jedi did take a part in leading the clones into battle. But that doesn't mean that they need to be PLAYABLE. They should be AI-controlled. If you want to play a Jedi-free game, you should really stick to Battlefield 2. Why can't they just supply a decent battlefield-type Star Wars game? As awesome as BF2 is, it's not Star Wars. Really, I'd have been so much happier if instead LA decided to team up with DICE and make SWBF2 actually an expansion pack for BF2, instead of using the same crappy engine, physics, etc. from SWBF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Arrow Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Darth Vader PA1=Lightsaber PA2=Saber Block SA1=Saber Throw SA2=Force Choke M= Tantive IV, Jedi Temple, Dagobah, Theed I noticed that Darth Vader isn't even down for the Death Star map.. I mean how ridiculuos is that.. Obviously alot of info isn't provided there and thats only a sample of what will really be happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel_Trooper Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Why can't they just supply a decent battlefield-type Star Wars game? As awesome as BF2 is, it's not Star Wars. Really, I'd have been so much happier if instead LA decided to team up with DICE and make SWBF2 actually an expansion pack for BF2, instead of using the same crappy engine, physics, etc. from SWBF. Seriously, you took the words right out of my mouth. Why do they insist on using the same crappy engine? Why must jedi be so predominant in this sort of game? What drugs are the devs taking here? It still looks like it has the possibility of being fun, just the heroes, the engine and the numerous dev errors damage the game far too much. I know I sound like a Battlefront hater, but I'm not. I really do want to love the game and feel pleased with it, but as much as I try, I realise that at the end of the day, it's just another mediocre Star Wars game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master_skywalke Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Darth Vader PA1=Lightsaber PA2=Saber Block SA1=Saber Throw SA2=Force Choke M= Tantive IV, Jedi Temple, Dagobah, Theed I noticed that Darth Vader isn't even down for the Death Star map.. I mean how ridiculuos is that.. Obviously alot of info isn't provided there and thats only a sample of what will really be happening! Darth Vader on Theed but not on the Death Star!!!I agree with you, no Vader on the Death Star is really ridiculuos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Yeah, that's ridiculous :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMuffin Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Well yeah, of course, but does it make sense to put them in a game like Battlefront, where you play as the soldiers? Don't make me quote Mace from AotC... because what he says is exactly why Jedi SHOULD NOT BE PLAYABLE. There are a few maps, Geonosis, Felucia, Mygeeto, and Kashyyyk (NOT Yoda though, but there was Luminara Unduli on the ground), where Jedi did take a part in leading the clones into battle. But that doesn't mean that they need to be PLAYABLE. They should be AI-controlled. The point of the battlefront games has always been to "play the SW battles any way you want". Whether or not Mace wants to fight, you can't deny the fact that Jedi *do* play an important role in the warfare of the prequel movies. Why shouldn't they be playable? There were several Jedi who were just sent to Geonosis to serve as "soldiers". I do agree with you that "heros" are indeed overused (I think the playable Jedi should have been generic Jedi, not characters from the movies), but you can't completely scrap the Jedi idea for this. In the prequels, Jedi fought in battles with the clones. They should also in a game based on the movies. Why can't they just supply a decent battlefield-type Star Wars game? As awesome as BF2 is, it's not Star Wars. Really, I'd have been so much happier if instead LA decided to team up with DICE and make SWBF2 actually an expansion pack for BF2, instead of using the same crappy engine, physics, etc. from SWBF. Perhaps you would have been happy, but others would have screamed that LA was just doing mods of other games (SWGB, for example) to make fast money. I do agree with you on the expansion thing though. I know I will feel robbed after buying the game, but what can I say? I'm a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 About the expansion thing...a well for those with PS2 might prefer the SWB2 rather than an expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Why shouldn't they be playable? There were several Jedi who were just sent to Geonosis to serve as "soldiers". Wrong, they were serving as commanders and generals, not grunts. In the prequels, Jedi fought in battles with the clones. They should also in a game based on the movies. But they shouldn't be playable. Perhaps you would have been happy, but others would have screamed that LA was just doing mods of other games (SWGB, for example) to make fast money. Well which would you rather have: a crappy $50 game, or an awesome $25 game? I'll choose the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMuffin Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Wrong, they were serving as commanders and generals, not grunts. In the Geo arena, they didn't have many troopers to command around did they? But they shouldn't be playable. One of the republic trooper is the clone commander. So why wouldn't a Jedi commander/general be playable? Well which would you rather have: a crappy $50 game, or an awesome $25 game? I'll choose the latter. To be honest, I agree with you on that last point. I'm just pointing out the fact that reviewers and players have already flagged battlefront as a battlefield clone. I don't think ripping yet another engine would be very good for LA's popularity. But like I said, I agree with you on that. I haven't played the full Bfield2 yet, but the demo alone is really great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Arrow Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I don't see how this rips battlefield off... Its in 3rd person for a start! But then those who play shooters before battlefield was released could say they ripped off all those games such as counter strike and wolfenstein, every1 is just comparing games to the best game even if that game was copied! but apparently that doesnt matter :-\ Battlefront 2 is copying Battlefront 1 if anything.. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BADGER: Posted September 9, 2005 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 But then those who play shooters before battlefield was released could say they ripped off all those games such as counter strike and wolfenstein Ha, I remember Wolfwnstein, I played that game all the time when it came out. I guess that makes me old then. Wrong, they were serving as commanders and generals, not grunts. Well they fought on the front lines in that battle, commanders and generals don't fight on the front line. And I don't remember one clone trooper on the ground either, they were in the gunships. It was just Jedi, and Padma, on the ground fighting. And they fought on the front lines with the troopers on Princess Amidala's planet. Naboo was it? Well, the fight between playable, and non playable Jedi starts again. There really is no reason to worry about it, the host can turn them off it he wishes. And Vader is in the Death Star, I missed that map when I was typing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel_Trooper Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Actually, a good point was brought up there, the host can turn off Jedi, so that's ok. Thinking actually, the majority of players of this game will be the usual fanboys (no offense to anyone in this forum with Jedi as their religion) and so the hosts will have Jedi on. I suppose however that some hosts WILL turn them off, and instant action is always there, so all hope is not lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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