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Padme: "I love you more."

Anakin: "No, I love you more!"

Padme: "No! I love YOU more!"

Anakin: "Okay, now I have to kill you."

 

Yeah, that was so much better ;-).

Overall the romance plot was better in ROTS than ATOC, and I am not commenting simply on the dialog. But yes, that scene was awful.
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the terrible dialog the actors had to work with definately didn't help.

The thought of not being with you...I can't breathe!

 

Yeah, I see what you mean. XP The dialog was pretty bad, and that made the actors seem much worse than they really were. I guess I thought Hayden's acting was better than most people think of it, but I still realize it wasn't too good. I think you have to remember that Lucas wanted to portray the winey teenager with Anakin in AotC. IIRC, Hayden wanted to portray it as the "dark and disturbed" type, and Lucas told him otherwise.

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ROTS had ziltch direction for the "romance" scenes. Kidman is a veritable tree in those scenes. Ewan McGregor is does the most appaling voice acting too...

 

The saving grace of the film is Sidious. Without him, it is just sh*te.

None of what you said made sense. Put down the booze and crystal meth, come back when you're sober.

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^It exists in Canadian English, at least out here in the west. But then again, we always were the most 'properly British' part of Canada, and I really canna speak for those Newfies(1). Though btw, we do pronouce it is interchangably like "slow", or like "cow".

 

(1) A term used by Western Canadians to denote anyone who lives east of the Rocky Mountains -- in spite of my present location, I'm actually from Vancouver :).

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Ok how about this:

 

Sidious having his face burnt away: "POWEEEEEEEER! UNLIMITEEEEEEED POWEEEEEEER!" then getting up saying in normal voice "Good, I shall call you Darth Vader. Now go kill all the Jedi!" and Anakin answering "Sure thing!"

 

[sarcasm]That was a very deep and thought provoking dialogue and scene that took about 30 seconds to portray one of the hardest and most important decisions made in the entire series. [/sarcasm]

 

Sidious throwing in the "Darth Vader" name like he had it up his azz. And of course the uber cheesiness of "unlimited power" which could only be topped by the Frankenstein walk of Vader at the end. Although the Frankenstein walk can be defended by "do you think he could dance with completely new prosthetic legs?" and "it was an homage" - sounds like BS to me but sure, I can accept those explanations. "Unlimited power" is just plain cheesy and looks/sounds stupid - it has no excuse.

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Ok how about this:

 

Sidious having his face burnt away: "POWEEEEEEEER! UNLIMITEEEEEEED POWEEEEEEER!" then getting up saying in normal voice "Good, I shall call you Darth Vader. Now go kill all the Jedi!" and Anakin answering "Sure thing!"

 

[sarcasm]That was a very deep and thought provoking dialogue and scene that took about 30 seconds to portray one of the hardest and most important decisions made in the entire series. [/sarcasm]

 

It really felt like a Jar Jar answer from Anakin. He could just have stated it like

['Now go kill all Jedi' and Anakin answers 'okidoki big boss, mesa going to killa all Jedi'] and be done with it.

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It really felt like a Jar Jar answer from Anakin. He could just have stated it like

['Now go kill all Jedi' and Anakin answers 'okidoki big boss, mesa going to killa all Jedi'] and be done with it.

 

very blunt but haven't heard it put better. Anakin was turned very quickly and rather easily from someone who just told Mace, Palpatine was the Sith Lord to, i pledge my allegience to you

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You need to watch the movies again. The scene goes like this:

 

Vader walks into the the room and kneels onto the floor. A hologram of the Emperor appears in front of him:

 

Vader: "What is thy bidding, my Master?"

 

Emperor: "There is a great disturbance in the Force."

 

Vader: "I have felt it."

 

Emperor: "We have a new enemy: the young rebel who destroyed the Death Star. I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker."

 

Vader: "How is that possible?"

 

Emperor: "Search your feelings, Lord Vader; you will know it ot be true. He could destroy us."

 

Vader: "He's just a boy. Obi-Wan can no longer help him."

 

Emperor: "The Foce is strong with him. The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi."

 

Vader: "If he could be turned, he would become a powerful ally."

 

Emperor: "Yes. He would be a great asset. Can it be done?"

 

Vader: "He will join us or die, Master."

 

END SCENE

 

You're WRONG!

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@the doctor

That scene you transcribed is from the dvd. It is altered for the dvd. Now go look at the same scene on your VHS copy! Yo DO have a VHS copy, do you not? What kind of dirtbag would not have a VHS copy?

 

...anyway, the scene is almost identical...

 

 

 

 

 

...and also - don't take me too seriously...

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I think he was talking about Darth Insidious, rather than you, montnoir. Though I can't blame you for worrying, I wouldn't want to be on the opposite side of a debate from a timelord, either ;).

 

:scare5:

 

There was a recent entry in the keeper of the holocron's blog about who knew "The Skywalker Secrets" (and when) which seems relevant to that discussion. It's kind of cool, and found here: http:// http://blogs.starwars.com/holocron/17.

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I didn't mind the jump of Tyranus, he is a Sith, so why would he be calm and cool? He was wanting the confrontation, he was trying to intimidate them. Of course, he could have taken the stairs, but I don't really see any problem with what he did.

 

The romance scenes are so-so, I thought that the balcony scene was gagging: "Only because I am in love with you, blah blah blab." *gag* Other than that, I didn't have that much problem with it. It seemed kind of awkward, but it was ok.

 

As for Anakin's fall, the first time I say Ep III I thought it was abrupt, the next time I didn't mind it. If you are watching the movie, there is all this stuff that goes before it. Palpatines promise of cheating death, his dreams about Padme, his anger, the memorys of the things that he had done in the past, a lot of stuff. Besides, they can only cram so much stuff into a movie. Anakin looked on Palpatine as his friend, and to him it seemed like he was the only one that made sense. Besides, what do you do once you defend a dark lord by killing a Jedi Master, not to mention breaking the code multiple times? His whole life would probably been destroyed: they discover his marriage, maybe banish him from the order, his friend Palpy is dead, and if his wife dies anyways he goes to the dark side despite what happens.

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