Least favorite Star Wars movie?

[Ztalker]

I voted AOTC. Not because it's bad, but because it breaks with the SW saga, in my opinion. I'll explain:

 

Starwars Episode 1 gave us insight into the Jedi. They showed the Jedi Academy, how Yoda had his role in it, and how Obi-Wan is linked to it.

 

Episode 3 showed us how Anakin succumbed, a question thast has bothered people from 1986 until 2005. It also filled up some gaps, Lucas had made himself.

Notice the guy in the ship where Amidala gives birth? He has an 70's haircut. Also, you see why Obi-Wan is so conected with Luke, and why Yoda knows of 'another Skywalker.'

 

Episode 4 started the series and introduced Obi-Wan and the rest of the characters. It also opened some quastions that needed answering.

 

Episode 5: Four words: Yoda, Jedi training, father.

 

Episode 6: Just the ideal finale. Nuf said.

 

In short terms:

Episode 2 introduced nothing new compared to the other movies. yes, we know where Boba Fett comes from. But would anyone care if he wasn't in episode 2? He was already a cool character in the old trilogy.

While all the other movies unfold a little part about the Skywalker Saga, episode 2 doesn't do that.

[nas77]

While all the other movies unfold a little part about the Skywalker Saga, episode 2 doesn't do that.

Not sure about that - ep 2 showcases Anakin's first forays into anger and his arrogace, and his love for and marriage with Padme, which is the catalyst for the rest of the event surrounding the Skywalker family. Actually, ep 2 tells a lot about the Skywalkers.

[Hallucination]

And episode 2 shows us the clones. Can't forget the clones.

[The Doctor]

Attack of the Clones. By far. Bad acting on Anakin's part (at least he got better for ROTS), cheesy love scenes, lousy directing of the arena battle, not one decently lengthed lightsaber battle, stupid villain (Dooku, not Sidious), and a crappy, crappy, use of the Imperial March - too quiet and too slow.

ESB is a close second. Not that t was bad, but it was just not as good as the others. The only redeeming features were the lightsaber fight between Luke and Vader, Yoda (who doesn't love Yoda), and the battle of Hoth. And also the lines: "I'd sooner kiss a wookie!" "I can arrange that! He could use a good kiss!"

The best for filling in the blanks was ROTS. At the end of AOTC I was still left wondering how the heck the Empire was created - I alway assumed it was an external force that destroyed the Republic in a war, for some reason that I can't explain.

[Darth InSidious]

How could you think it's aweful? IMO it was the best coreographed fight in the series. (I still liked the Anakin vs Obi-Wan more, but TPM's was very good)

 

It's your opinion though I guess

 

Ya, well. I much preferred Kressh Vs. Sadow, myself

 

Or Hord Vs. Ragnos, for that matter

[JediKnight707]

I didn't like ROTJ, because Vader/Anakin dies in the final scenes of it.

 

That was the best one!!!

[The Doctor]

^ I agree. ROTJ had everything, including the Ewoks. Ewoks rule.

[Prime]

'cept I thought the duel was awful....

U R Wierd.

[Astrotoy7]

Im going for TPM, because

 

*I hate Jar Jar

*I hate kids and its overall kiddiness

*I hate the neimoudians

*I hate cg alien fart jokes

*I hate the kitster vs wald lame "almost" high five

 

take out DOTF and the introduction of R2(w00t!), the rest could be left on the cutting room floor jar jar of course needs to sacrificed to satan....gimme the goats blood, I'll do it damnit.... closely followed by Wicket

 

 

mtfbwya

[nas77]

*I hate the kitster vs wald lame "almost" high five

Oh yeah, I'd completely forgotten about that. Makes me cringe just thinking about it.

[JediKnight707]

jar jar of course needs to sacrificed to satan....gimme the goats blood, I'll do it damnit.... closely followed by Wicket

 

Dammit!!! I wanted to do it!!!!!

[Ztalker]

Ehr...

 

Personally, i think Jar Jar made more sense then the Ewoks.

*seeks cover*

 

I don't say Jar Jar was good, but it added something to the Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan scenes. Like the two jedi chilling in the bongo, and Jar Jar flipping out.

 

I like the ewok design (hey, not every alien is a murderous psychopath!) but they didn't have the right scenes. A bunch of little Ewok's killing an ELITE battaljon of Stormtroopers? Dream on!

[Darth InSidious]

^If the Empire still existed, you'd be up for castration after that post

 

The Ewoks make perfect sense! Or at least, they...umm......nah, they don't. But Jar-Jar is WAAAY more annoying.

[nas77]

A bunch of little Ewok's killing an ELITE battaljon of Stormtroopers? Dream on!

Yeah, but that's the whole point; David vs Goliath, a rag-tag bunch of rebels vs the mighty Empire. It's all about the little guy standing up to an immense evil. Star Wars is littered with this, e.g. the small snub fighters taking out the huge Death Star, the greatest Jedi master ever being about 2 inches tall. Ewoks taking down the elite, but ultimately over-confident, imperials fits in perfectly.

[El Sitherino]

A bunch of little Ewok's killing an ELITE battaljon of Stormtroopers? Dream on!

I know, that's exactly like a tiny squadron of star fighters taking out the ultimate battle station in the universe.

 

... Wait.

[The Doctor]

I hate the kitster vs wald lame "almost" high five

Excuse me for my ignorance, but what in the name of time are you talking about?

[Hallucination]

I know, that's exactly like a tiny squadron of star fighters taking out the ultimate battle station in the universe.

 

... Wait.

 

Not really. little guys with bows and arrows vs. guys with guns and numbers. I don't think that should have happened....

OT: Why do stormtroopers where the armour if its rather useless against arrows and rocks?

[nas77]

^^ To be honest, the stormtroopers always looked like they were wearing cheap plastic for body armour - arrows could pierce that easily. That's my explanation...

And there were a considerable number of ewoks. Plus an AT-ST half way through. And the home advantage, I guess...

[Hallucination]

The ewoks, even with all the help they got, shouldn't have taken the AT-ST. Lucas really forgot realism there.

[El Sitherino]

Debating realism in Star Wars... makes as much sense as a jewish neo-nazi.

[chaleur]

Debating realism in Star Wars... makes as much sense as a jewish neo-nazi.

 

Godwin! Hmmm...then again, I think Quirk's exception might apply here.

[El Sitherino]

Godwin's Law is in relation to comparing someone to a nazi or Hitler, or situations of the like. I was merely making an analogy to express how little sense his post makes, my analogy could easily work by replacing jew with black and neo-nazi with Klansman. Where as posts fitting into godwin's law cannot have the nazi part replaced.

 

Allow me to demonstrate. "Debating realism in Star Wars makes as much sense as a black Klansman"

 

It's giving a visual to the contradiction the terms make.

[montnoir]

It seems that almost any discussion about reality is cut short by the realization that

other people have differing constraints on their ability to imagine what is possible. To

make this worse, most deny the potential of open space by filling it with expectations

that they feel compelled to serve. Thus we rarely get to talk about what is real or what

could be made real, but instead all focus gravitates towards compulsion for the most

predictable behavior. As with everything today, easy repetition and servitude wins out

over aspiration.

 

Many people are seeking bliss, that crude Judeo-Christian narcotic that numbs the

spirit and offers the pleasure of justified, smug self-assurance. This bliss doesn't care

for the real world, but instead posits its goal as a fantasy reality where all things are

preordained and all destinies are fulfilled to serve an invisible being in the sky who is

''perfect'' except that he is incomprehensible and requires humans to worship him.

This absurdity doesn't dissuade those in search of the safe and placid nothingness

promised to them as the heaven they reach by dying.

 

The need for the intoxication of bliss speaks against the people who seek it, i.e. those

who suffer from life are the only ones who need to imagine ''bliss'' as their relief from

reality. Those who are aligned with life neither desire nor seek external remedies (e.g.

''bliss'', ''God'', ''heaven''). Similarly, they do not possess the Judeo-Christian cultivated

feeling that their spirit is in error and carries a heavy weight that needs to be removed

(e.g. by ''being saved'', ''redemption'', ''salvation''). Here, as everywhere, the great

religious farce is played out by creating false distress by inventing an illusional reality

and then offering similarly illusory solutions. None of this has anything to do with reality,

but it exhaustively drains energy and hope, thus providing the emptiness that creates

the strained smiles of ''bliss'' that are seen on the faces of the flock of the hopeless

ones.

 

Somewhere between feigned happiness and schizophrenia you can find primitive

resolutions to the inner cognitive dissonance suffered by those who talk about

decisions they have made when more correctly they have merely complied with

external demands placed upon them. They intentionally misunderstand events and

interpret them dishonestly so that when they submit to another person's desires, they

fraudulently say ''I chose this'' or ''we chose this'' but almost never ''I gave in to this

person'' except in the case of the most honest and aware submissives.

 

Really I do not wish to speak out against passive people because only a small

minority of people in the world are sufficiently capable of making thoughtful decisions

to which they or others should be bound. It is good that most people merely pass

through their adult lives like sleepwalkers, happy to forget the clarity they once had in

youth, though their common propensity for baseless self-praise they voiced later

creates an embarrassing spectacle. What always amazes me is how easily they

comply while resisting all introspection and criticism. As if hypnotized, they remain

transfixed in a state of selective suggestibility where they unquestioningly go along

with certain expectations that are placed on them. Like sheep led to their slaughter,

they are treated well enough and fed comfortably so they never realize their

destination.

 

In my younger days I used to believe in the possibility of sharing ideas with others by

communicating with rational thought. This seemed simple enough, but I was too much

of an idealist and my spirit was too rooted in traditional European thinking to

understand the modern landscape. The harsh reality is that few people today have an

attention span capable of sustaining rational thought for more than a few seconds,

ensuring that all abstract or non-trivial ideas are now incomprehensible to moderns

and thus cannot be discussed. They are always busy and distracted so most thoughts

lack sufficient time to get through. Making this even worse, few people have been able

to escape the mendacity of middle eastern religions and their intentionally deceptive

worldview that cripples all aspiration, so any thoughts that do get through are usually

rooted in simplicity, repetition, and error.

 

It should be no surprise to see what the results of this approach have been. Young

people are left isolated with paradoxical demands and ordered to become adults so

they can serve as the jailers of the next generation. Finding no logical path out, they

struggle at first to overcome themselves but then settle for any convenient anchor to

which they can attach themselves and assume a socially acceptable identity that will

please those making demands upon them. Even if they have escaped indoctrination

in a middle eastern religion, they typically retain the focus on image over reality.

Consequently, they are left empty inside with no hope of discovering authenticity while

at the same time presenting themselves with a false social veneer of pleasant

satisfaction that attempts to mask their cruel predicament.

 

As we are all part of the whole, these casualties compromise our future by trading it

for a comfortable illusion. We need to not only awaken those who have become the

victims of illusion, but we need to speak out against the pleasant lies that covertly kill

the spirits of the ones we love

[Hallucination]

Debating realism in Star Wars... makes as much sense as a jewish neo-nazi.

I wasn't debating, I was just saying it doesn't make any sense. If I wanted to debate realism I'd say something about the 'Force'.

[MdKnightR]

I have to say A New Hope. Not because it was bad, but it was the least of the 6. I think that every Star Wars film was better than the one before it, so my order of preference is ROTS, AOTC, TPM, ROTJ, ESB, ANH.