JediMasterDeath Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 lol...yha, I dont remeber Joelee dying when I played, infact he was in my party on the StarForge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbag Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 You mean Jolee and Kreia (Traya), right? Joe Leigh was not a character in this game. And, er, JediMasterDeath, I find it uneasy to read that post because of you threatening to blow things up ( ) and advertising Football Club UK... And I wouldn't give ol' Kreia Force Ghostiness. She doesn't deserve it, most Sith don't get that form of returning. And LA would be rather stupid not to make a KoTOR III, I'm sure they can smell big money from it EDIT: And, the Exile's love is either Visas or Brianna, depending on your influence with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterDeath Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 lol, mere humor Meatbag with the blowing the world up, I thought that would be obvious by the fact of what I had said I woild blow up? and im pretty sure I said Joelee didn't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Kreia wouldn't come back as a Force Ghost. She hates the Force. Jolee is dead. Force Ghosts are cheesy and would add a layer of cliche I'd rather that KotOR III didn't have. The description idea would need to go into so much detail in the dialogue it would seem ridiculously un-realistic, IMHO. Â JediMasterDeath: The spellings are "Kreia/Traya", "Jolee Bindo", "Droid", "face-off", "Vandar", "Nihilus", "Mandalore". Star Forge is two words, and you shouldn't capitalise a word in the middle of a sentence unless it's a proper noun [/grammarification ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbag Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 The power of grammar is immense... And with the blowing things up, in SWG forums this guy took a map of Austin where the Devs are, and drew on stuff like 'target located' and things, and one of the community peeps said they might call the police! That's cheesy. Force Ghosts aren't cheesy. I find them to show the true nature of the Force. Besides, a true Jedi doesn't die, they become one with the Force. And if they were cheesy, Luke wouldn't come up close because of the awful smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Oh, come on. They're outdated by twenty years! They look stupid. If you don't like cheesy, then how about kitsch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Force Ghosts aren't cheesy!! You are just in a bad mood. Take a time-out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray_Master Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I think it would be neat if he did, it would make it more "Star Wars-ish" i suppose. But if you wanna get down and dirty, according to EpIII RotS Qui-gon Jinn was the Jedi who learned how to come back as a ghost kinda thing...not syaing it wasn't done before but that ability would have been lost at some point had it been known before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Man Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Here's my list of characters to return: MUST HAVE HK-47 in party T3-M4 in party REVAN as object of quest THE EXILE as object of quest CANDEROUS as leader of a suicide mission that helps buy time to fight "THE TRUE SITH" and brings glory to the Mandalorians forever  SHOULD HAVE CARTH either alive or in holocron BASTILA either alive or in holocron VISAS in cameo BRIANA in cameo ATTON in cameo MIRA in cameo  SHOULD NOT HAVE MISSION EITHER WOOKIE JUHANI  MUST NOT HAVE GOTO!!!! KREIA!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone L68362 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Kreia wasn't really a Sith everybody...Traya seemed like a whole separate person. Â Speaking of Kreia, it would be cool to see the Exile and Revan meet up sometime and the Exile tells Revan everything. When he tells what happened to Kreia I just think it would be nice to see Revan react a little sadly. My first play through in TSL, when Kreia finally died, I felt kinda sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Traya wasn't a Sith either. She hated the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Man Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Kreia wasn't really a Sith everybody  Traya wasn't a Sith either  Kreia/Traya not a sith?!?  Using The Force to manipulate people and events to benefit yourself at the expense of everyone else in the galaxy is the hallmark of the Sith. It's the same thing Darth Sidious did. She just didn't care to "rule the galaxy." She may have said she hated The Force, but there is an old saying, "What you are is screaming so loudly I cannot hear your words."  Kreia/Traya was every bit a Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQel-Droma Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Jolee is dead. Force Ghosts are cheesy and would add a layer of cliche I'd rather that KotOR III didn't have. Â It almost seems like you want K3 to be a plot and a game engine, with nothing else. I don't think I've seen you want any new option/idea implanted in K3. Or maybe I just haven't looked hard enough. No offense meant DI, of course... Â But as for what you said: I'm sorry, but where is your basis for "Force Ghosts are cheesy?" You must be suggesting that RotJ was cheesier than any of the other movies because some old guy had to show up with a blue glow around him and guide Luke- wasn't cheesy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Well said Rob. Kudos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master omega Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Im not botherd really all new characters would be fine for me but haveing an older mission as some Cantina Dancer Would be pretty Kool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goude Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 in all likelyness hk-47 will be back because he survives untill the Galactic Civil War era... i dunno if i want old char's tho id be happy with just new ones or some old ones.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goude Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 o and the jedi didnt really have force ghost's 'till qui-gon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Kreia/Traya not a sith?!? Using The Force to manipulate people and events to benefit yourself at the expense of everyone else in the galaxy is the hallmark of the Sith. It's the same thing Darth Sidious did. She just didn't care to "rule the galaxy." She may have said she hated The Force, but there is an old saying, "What you are is screaming so loudly I cannot hear your words."  Kreia/Traya was every bit a Sith.  Traya hated the force. Everything about it. A Sith desires power, and uses the Dark side for evil-doings, while a Jedi wants to protect the weak, and use the light side for good-doings (something along those lines. Whatever). Traya didn't want the force to exist, and used the Dark side to suit her own purposes (which register as more or less "evil"). She didn't want power; as I've heard it been put: "she fell from the dark side to complete Nihilism". So, while she certainly is closer to a Sith than a Jedi, I don't think she quite fits into the category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Im not botherd really all new characters would be fine for me but haveing an older mission as some Cantina Dancer Would be pretty Kool  While I definitely want to see Mission all grown up and hot (and in a hot dancer outfit), I don't expact to see her as a Cantina Dancer. She can do better than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Man Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Traya hated the force. Everything about it. I think she felt betrayed because The Force did not protect her when Sion and Nihilus deposed her. In fact, it served Sion and Nihilus in their coup d'etat. She wanted revenge on the Jedi, Nihilus, Sion, The Force, and anyone or anything else who she felt had harmed her. She saw that The Exile was her best instrument for exacting that revenge. However, being angry at The Force (indeed, the entire galaxy) for perceived betrayals does not mean she was not a Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I think your reasoning is right on, though like I said: even if she considered herself sith, she does not fit the mold at all. I think the best way to describe the argument now is: she wasn't at all a "typical" sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQel-Droma Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 o and the jedi didnt really have force ghost's 'till qui-gon  How do you know?  Im not botherd really all new characters would be fine for me but haveing an older mission as some Cantina Dancer Would be pretty Kool  I think Mission can do better than that, like PoiuyWired said. As for the dancer outfit, PW - c'mon, I'd think you could find a better reason for Mission to come back than for eye-candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExileRevan Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 CALO NORD definately Admiril Carth Onasi an awesome character some sort of Sith Lord fighting for you that would own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Ok. That is disturbing but I give you credit for liking Calo Nord. The Bad news however, you kill him in KOTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goude Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 i dont really know but based on all the evidence.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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