Char Ell Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 During what I believe is one of the lessons of listening Kreia remarks how she can't read the Iridonian's thoughts like the rest of the crew but yet the Exile can. Anybody have any thoughts as to why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 If you play DS male and gain more than 80% influence with Mandalore, there will be a cutscene where Mandalore and B-D get into it about the Mandalorian Wars. During that conversation, it is revealed that Bao-Dur is actually an android. If you remember, Kreia states that she can't read the droids. Clever bit of foreshadowing on the devs part if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 Thanks Achilles. You da man!!! Very interesting. I haven't played DS yet so this is something only revealed if you play DS male then? And how strange that Bao-Dur is an android and yet is a Force-sensitive. That opens up a whole new can of worms in the SW universe, no? But still, why can the Exile read Bao-Dur's thoughts and Kreia can't? I realize this may not be revealed in the game since I haven't found it but then again I didn't know Bao-Dur was an android before now so maybe there is something more evidentiary than speculative about this. In either case, I don't know so that's why I posed the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Strange. I never came across that and I did have both those conditions. About the android part: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=android By definition, he is still made from biological material, which would explain why he would need to replace his arm by a mechanical one. It would also explain why he was force sensitive. He was not totally machine. As for the link with the Exile, I have no idea. Perhaps the Exile had some part in Bao-Dur's creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Strange. I never came across that and I did have both those conditions.Shhhhhhhhhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I knew it! You son of a... *shakes fist* You got me there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 If you play DS male and gain more than 80% influence with Mandalore, there will be a cutscene where Mandalore and B-D get into it about the Mandalorian Wars. Are you sure? I took a look at the dialogue files in the Ebon Hawk, and there was absolutely nothing about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Re-read the last two posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 *** checks calendar *** What? Is it April Fools' again so soon? How did I fall for that one? Yep, ya got me too... Alright for you Achilles. I'll never take you at your word again. It's back to checking the dialog files on my own... grumble *$#%... blasted &*#... make me do it on my own then #@$# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQel-Droma Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 You little.... I just thought I spoiled a major part of the game by looking in this thread, but I guess I didn't. Oh well, you got me too Achilles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Ach! I suppose that was getting back at me for the KOTOR III link in my signature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Shhhhhhhhhh! Bwahahahahaha!!! If you play DS male and gain more than 80% influence with Mandalore, there will be a cutscene where Mandalore and B-D get into it about the Mandalorian Wars. During that conversation, it is revealed that Bao-Dur is actually an android. If you remember, Kreia states that she can't read the droids. Clever bit of foreshadowing on the devs part if you ask me. That was really well done Achilles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenGoblin Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 ^^^ Actually had me going there for a while. Anyway as to the real reason, didn't Kreia say something about not being able to understand an alien because their minds work differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 That was really well done Achilles! I grudgingly agree. There are very few forum members who could have pulled that off. Of course it would have been much funnier if I wasn't the victim but at least I can take some solace that I wasn't the only one he had going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I can't believe you guys fell for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQel-Droma Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 You had me pretty good too. I was thinking, "Well, maybe that is why he has that wierd soft voice, because he is some android that somebody made." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenGoblin Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 ^^ I was thinking he had suffered some kind of injury and had machinery hooked up to his brain. How was I supposed to know? I barely take Bao-Dur outside the ship as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Maker Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Darn you Achilles! I almost believed you! Anyhow, I thought she couldn't "read" him because he is an alien, but... meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I can't believe you guys fell for that. I knew it was a load of bull chips. There are no androids in Star Wars. Only droids. If you had said that Bao-Dur was a droid, then I might have believed you, Achilles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifman Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Shhhhhhhhhh! And I bet your rebalance mod doesn't work either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 No, that one does work. None of the others do though I figured if everyone else was allowed to just make stuff up *cough*vacuummaskonthestarforge*cough* then I could too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Should we get back on topic now? The original question does have some merit. We know Atton uses his emotions to shield his thoughts, but we don't know what makes Kreia unable to read Bao-Dur. Well, we know she must hear something, but we don't know why she can't interpret it but you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Sure, but I think it's already been answered a couple of times (and not by me). Kreia: The droid cannot be read in such a way - as for the alien who served with you in the war, its thoughts are more difficult, requiring many translations in meaning. Often it is better to read their impulses and images than their spoken thoughts. That is why he is deaf to you - I have found his impulses are cold, like a dead weight, his thoughts are black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Yes, but it doesn't explain how he answers to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted December 6, 2005 Author Share Posted December 6, 2005 At long last, back OT. I'm going to go thru the dialog files (learned my lesson the hard way:D) to see if I can find anything but I'm guessing that there won't be much in the way of solid reasons why the Exile can but Kreia can't. It's probably one of those things that the devs just left hanging out there, know what I mean. We only need to know that it is not why it is... Doesn't mean we can't speculate about it though and make some educated guesses as to the why. Personally I have no idea why but thought maybe somebody else would have an inkling. But maybe if I play DS male and get Mandalore and Bao-Dur to get in each other's face over the Mandalorian Wars the truth will reveal itself... EDIT: Actually on second thought I'll throw out a crazy one. It's Bao-Dur's horns. They act as a telepathic shield and Bao-Dur can pick and choose who he will allow into his mind. He gave Kreia the block but let the General in because his horns allow him to sense who is trying to pick his brain. You know it's actually like Bao-Dur is speaking to the Exile when the Exile tunes in to his mind because Bao-Dur says, "Your command echoes still, General. And I obey, as I did at Malachor." Eh? What do y'all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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