MachineCult Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 One makes him drop his lightsaber and then thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fealiks Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 it was pretty stupid how the clone troopers on Kashyyk (I think its Kashyyk.... the one with the giant flowers lol) just kept shooting the Twi'lek Jedi* for about an hour after she died.... ¬¬ *yeah yeah... sorry for being so ignorant... have the prequel trilogies always had their own category? new fearures!!!1 woot! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Kashyyyk is the Wookiee planet. The one you're thinking of is Felucia, and I agree it was weird the way they just kept shooting. Good Idea combining the boards by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Lol, they keep shooting her because they wanted to make sure she was dead. Yes, I like how you combined the prequel movies into one, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Kashyyyk is the Wookiee planet. The one you're thinking of is Felucia, and I agree it was weird the way they just kept shooting. Good Idea combining the boards by the way. Maybe they want us to know that she is DEAD DEAD DEAD and, you know what? DEAD DEAD DEAD and again DEAD. So we know there is no hope for her to be alive, despite the fact that everyone wants to see mroe of her(pun intended) Well, its sad to see her go, along of the young luminera chick. I was hoping she can be onse of the 66 survivors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Dakari Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I was hoping she can be onse of the 66 survivors. Huh, what survivors? Everytime they introduce any - previously unknown - surviving Jedi of Order 66, they kill them off. I mean, come on! Yoda and Obi-Wan can't be the only Jedi with brains enough to know to lay low now. I would agree, Ki-Adi-Mundi did have best death scene in the Order 66 sequence. I'm sorry, but Aayla's was almost comical. She looked so much like a goober when she fell... I'm sorry, but she could have made it look a little more real. By the way, Mace did not beat Palpatine. If at any time Palpatine wanted to slaughter mace...he could have. But he had the whole thing planned out. He used his "defeat" as a ploy to lure Anakin to his side, knowing full-well that the young distraught Jedi would side with him. Palpatine was the master of a crude Sith interpretation of Form IV - Ataru. For having not touched his lightsaber in a few decades or more, and to have diced three Jedi Masters in under a minute and then formidably hold his own against Mace and Yoda, I would saw he was pretty kickass and, mostly definately, not a pushover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerfears Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I'm just surprised none of the Jedi felt a "disturbance in the force"... betrayal on that scale would seem rather notable to me, regardless of how much was going on or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Well, could argue that Yoda is a quitter, I was never convinced that he was "bettered". after all, a smart 10 year old can kick a champion fighter off a tower block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I'm just surprised none of the Jedi felt a "disturbance in the force"... Did you miss Yoda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fealiks Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I was about to say that! I was annoyed when Yoda said it. Its such a cheesy line to keep using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Huh, what survivors? Everytime they introduce any - previously unknown - surviving Jedi of Order 66, they kill them off. I mean, come on! Yoda and Obi-Wan can't be the only Jedi with brains enough to know to lay low now. You mean AFTER they survived, they laid low. Because Obi-Wan just got lucky (they tried to kill him and he didn't see it coming, after all). Yoda was lucky that he was away from the main area of battle, and happened to feel the pain of the other Jedi dying, giving him the few seconds warning needed to take out his would-be assassins. By the way, Mace did not beat Palpatine. If at any time Palpatine wanted to slaughter mace...he could have. But he had the whole thing planned out. Actually according to Lucas, Mace did beat Palpatine. He was beaten fair and square. Palpatine was only exaggerating his "I'm too weak" thing for Anakin's benefit, but had Anakin not been there, I'm sure he would have been killed. After all, Mace would block and reflect all the lightning that was thrown at him until Anakin cut off his hand, making him lose his saber, etc. you know the rest. You give the old man too much credit. I think Palpatine's plan was to kill Mace along with the others. He could always claim that they tried to assasinate him and he had to defend himself. On the other hand he did look surprised that the Jedi came to "arrest" him. I'm sure he suspected they'd eventually catch on to him. After all, he could have ordered Order 66 at any time, and made up some excuse of "betrayal" later. Remember his "excuse" for the purge was that the Jedi started a rebellion and tried to overthrow the Republic. With control of the media, who is going to refute his claim? He used his "defeat" as a ploy to lure Anakin to his side, knowing full-well that the young distraught Jedi would side with him. Right, but he was still defeated beforehand, that is key. He just turned a bad situation into a good one for him. Palpatine was the master of a crude Sith interpretation of Form IV - Ataru. For having not touched his lightsaber in a few decades or more, and to have diced three Jedi Masters in under a minute and then formidably hold his own against Mace and Yoda, I would saw he was pretty kickass and, mostly definately, not a pushover. We don't know that he didn't practice his lightsaber skills in private. You know, he disappears a lot from his office, to put on that dark cloak and have secret meetings with other Sith. I'm sure he'd have a few spare moments each day to practice his fencing moves. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd carried that hidden lightsaber with him for years before his battle with the four Jedi. The fighting form he uses involved trying to distract his opponents by making lots of silly faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Dakari Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 The fighting form he uses involved trying to distract his opponents by making lots of silly faces. If I could take screenshots I could post the most hilarious of them all. It's right before before (I think) he looses his lightsaber. On the other hand he did look surprised that the Jedi came to "arrest" him. *snip* We don't know that he didn't practice his lightsaber skills in private. Actually, the lightsaber that he used to fight Mace and the other Masters had been solidly concealed in a piece of sculpture ever since he made the move from Naboo to Coruscant after becoming Senator. He knew the Masters were on their way. In the interim he used the Force to ignite his lightsaber, and the blade eventually burned its way through the metal. He then hid it up his sleeve. Actually according to Lucas, Mace did beat Palpatine. Where has Lucas said this? I've never seen it. You do know that Lucas changed the order of the original fight, into what we see in the movie now, so that it would be so obvious to the viewer that Palpatine actually pretended to loose, right? Again, he pretended to loose just so that he would be in a vulnerable position when Anakin arrives. He sensed the arrival of the Masters, and he sensed the arrival of Anakin as well. By the way, if Mace had actually beaten Palpatine, then why the stars didn't Yoda defeat him? Because Mace didn't. Yoda, in the midst of his fight with Palpatine, came to the realization that the Sith had changed (become stronger) while the Jedi remained static. He knew, right then, that he was not going to be able to defeat Palpatine; either it be by lightsaber or the Force. And he also knew that if the fight continued he would eventually be killed, and the hope for a future of the Jedi would be greatly deminished (if not gone). You give the old man too much credit. You're right. I give him all of the credit in the world. He the epitome of the Dark Side. He was Yoda's equal in every since of the word. But, he had the upper-hand because he used the Dark Side, which allowed him to "fight dirty"...something the Jedi Code restricted Jedi from doing. I don't necessarily like Palpatine, or his actions, but I give him his props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Actually according to Lucas, Mace did beat Palpatine. Well, in a way he did defeat Palpy, but he sort of give up a bit because he knew that Anakin would help him defeat Mace Windu. But Mace Windu is probably one of the most powerful jedi in the history of the jedi. He was easily beating Palpy before Anakin came and aided him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Where has Lucas said this? I've never seen it. You do know that Lucas changed the order of the original fight, into what we see in the movie now, so that it would be so obvious to the viewer that Palpatine actually pretended to loose, right? Again, he pretended to loose just so that he would be in a vulnerable position when Anakin arrives. He sensed the arrival of the Masters, and he sensed the arrival of Anakin as well. So what, you've never heard of Lucas saying that so it isn't true? Palpatine was disarmed and overpowered even before he knew Anakin was coming. It wasn't even nessecary for him to throw the duel because if he knew Anakin was coming then the outcome would have been the same, Mace would have been killed. By the way, if Mace had actually beaten Palpatine, then why the stars didn't Yoda defeat him? Because Mace didn't. Yoda, in the midst of his fight with Palpatine, came to the realization that the Sith had changed (become stronger) while the Jedi remained static. He knew, right then, that he was not going to be able to defeat Palpatine; either it be by lightsaber or the Force. And he also knew that if the fight continued he would eventually be killed, and the hope for a future of the Jedi would be greatly deminished (if not gone). Databank: "Windu overpowered Palpatine the instant Anakin Skywalker came running into the offices." Palpatine knew that Yoda was too formidable so he pulled all that s**t with the big things in the senate chamber, not exactly fighting fair. Mace beat Palpatine and if Yoda had been in that same situation in the offices then Yoda would have beaten Palpatine as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkodeon Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Huh, what survivors? Everytime they introduce any - previously unknown - surviving Jedi of Order 66, they kill them off. I mean, come on! Yoda and Obi-Wan can't be the only Jedi with brains enough to know to lay low now. Woo for Quinlan Vos! I would agree, Ki-Adi-Mundi did have best death scene in the Order 66 sequence. I'm sorry, but Aayla's was almost comical. She looked so much like a goober when she fell... I'm sorry, but she could have made it look a little more real.[/Quote] Aayla: Now, come on guys, we have to keep up. These smelly, greaseballs are going to destroy us any minute now. You know, in Battlefront 2, this would all be over with my TWO lightsabers, but... Commander: Yeah, yeah. We're detecting some droids coming this way. Aayla: Hurry up, I also must flee to Kashyyyk to discover the fate of my love, Quinlan Vos. Commander: ...*Recieves Message from Palpatine, and they lift their blasters* Aayla: .... D: Hey, it was just a joke. By the way, Mace did not beat Palpatine. If at any time Palpatine wanted to slaughter mace...he could have. But he had the whole thing planned out. He used his "defeat" as a ploy to lure Anakin to his side, knowing full-well that the young distraught Jedi would side with him. Palpatine was the master of a crude Sith interpretation of Form IV - Ataru. For having not touched his lightsaber in a few decades or more, and to have diced three Jedi Masters in under a minute and then formidably hold his own against Mace and Yoda, I would saw he was pretty kickass and, mostly definately, not a pushover. I'm pretty sure Palpatine wouldn't ruin his beautiful face intentionally. D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Death Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 By the way, Mace did not beat Palpatine. If at any time Palpatine wanted to slaughter mace...he could have. But he had the whole thing planned out. He used his "defeat" as a ploy to lure Anakin to his side, knowing full-well that the young distraught Jedi would side with him. In a way its correct and in another its wrong. Palpatine was beat by the time he was on the grond and cornered by Mace. But soon after Anikan entered the room he made up and act as if he was defensevly being murdered (even when anikan new of him being a sith) and was all whiny and saying "Anikan dont let him kill me i am weak" (or something like that) and when Anikan cut mace's arm Palpatine sprang up and killed mace. So technikly you are right that Palpitine acted some of the duel out but there is no doubt Mace could have killed him (with or without Palpatine pretending) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Dakari Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 So what, you've never heard of Lucas saying that so it isn't true? No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I was asking if he could direct me to the a source that has quoted Lucas as saying such. And I asked that so I could see it for myself. It would be a first and only that Lucas has said that. but there is no doubt Mace could have killed him (with or without Palpatine pretending) And I never said he couldn't. Palpatine - in my opinion - was feigning defeat. I believe he was doing this because he knew Anakin was coming, and the sight of an "innocent old man" being cornered at lightsaber-tip would aid in Anakin's siding with him, and eventual conversion. Let's face it, if Anakin saw Palpatine blasting away at Mace's lightsaber with his very own crimson blade, then it would have taken a lot more persuasion for Anakin to take his side. However, with Palpatine on the ground and cowering in the corner of the window seal, Mace could have easily just stepped forward and lodged his blade through Palpatine's face. But this was a factor and chance that Palpatine had already weighed and considered worth taking. Yes, Mace could have easily killed him there, but Palpatine put himself in that predicament, not Mace. I'm pretty sure Palpatine wouldn't ruin his beautiful face intentionally. Considering as to how he even used his pain from the initial reflection to increase the power of the lightning, he could have cared less. He even told Anakin in the novelization, "I will miss the face of Palpatine. But this face will do to serve our purposes." Or something to that effect, when he was putting his Sith robes on. Whether intentional or not, he did it without a second thought, and used it to further his own agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 This weekend if I get time I'll pop in my ROTS DVD to find Lucas's proof of Palpatine being beat by Windu. Until then, trust me. Palpatine may be a scheming madman, but it's not godlike. He doesn't plan EVERYTHING in advance, nor is he all-knowing. Otherwise he might have forseen getting thrown down a hole by his apprentice... For Palpy's silly faces, this guy's site has them in Reason #46! (and yes, it is satire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Satire based on facts? Woo, edgy ground. I seriously wonder if Lucas lost the plot with the Palp scene, especially when the newer films at least tried to be seriouser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 I just had to say it because a lot of people didn't understand. You've gotta admit those are some funny faces! Mace's Vapaad style was barely able to keep the Jedi Master from bursting into laughter during the fight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soogz Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Actually, to tell you the truth I am glad he died the way he did. I never really cared for him that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Now I know you're a darksider! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Yeah he was the best death, even though I think the Jedi should have sensed that something was wrong and fought back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahSkywalker Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Yeah, Ki-Adi-Mundi's death scene was the best. The look on his face when he realises the Clone Troopers are turning on him is so heartbreaking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTyranneix Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 it was pretty stupid how the clone troopers on Kashyyk (I think its Kashyyk.... the one with the giant flowers lol) just kept shooting the Twi'lek Jedi* for about an hour after she died.... ¬¬ *yeah yeah... sorry for being so ignorant... have the prequel trilogies always had their own category? new fearures!!!1 woot! :o There is a reason they do that. The Clones are fully aware of Order 66 well before it actaully takes place. You find this out in Battlefront II. As to the reason she died so quickly was because although the clones could not disobey and order and save her, they made her death as quickly as possible so she would not suffer, since she saved several legions of troopers including the 501st on Felucia. Without her their campaign against the Seperatist on that planet would have faild and THOUSANDS of clones would have died. So to repay her, they made her death very quick. Lord Tyranneix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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