ChAiNz.2da Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 On a slightly unrelated note, I'd like to see Revan and Exile(in different canon sources)with specified genders, alignments, names (Exile's name and Revan's fake name while he was brainwashed), and appearances in canon, just so I can laugh at the morons who say "OMG L@3VE IT UP 2 TEH PL4YRE!! DN0T 5PE[1FY i7!!" Slighly unrelated? "morons"? How very troll-ish of you Do you honestly have that limited of an imagination where you just "have" to have the protaganist and every little bit of information 'defined' in absolutes? Perhaps RPG's aren't quite the genre for you hmm? In the meantime, lose the flame-namecalling or your stay here will be short lived. You have been warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joetheeskimo Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Revan is cool, Exile is ok, but I don't want a lame plot excuse for Revan or the Exile starting at level 1, so I want a new character. And I also want to see Revan, since it kind of goes without saying that he is needed for the plot and whole mystery of the True Sith ect. New character should start in the Jedi Temple on Coruscant as a new Jedi Apprentice in the Order which was founded by members of the TSL party (Visas, Disciple/Handmaiden ect) since the events of KOTOR 2. The player would take some type of history exam in which the player would set the endings and genders for the previous chracters. I wouldn't mind Exile being in KOTOR 3, but I wouldn't miss him either. If either appear, I'd like events which would allow them to die in/near the end (in non-canon endings). Eventually, the player would enter the unkown regions as the final test for his/her training in search of Revan and the True Sith. That would happen about 1/3 through the game. Most of the previous party members from KOTORs 1 and 2 would have cameos and/or small roles, just for old time's sake. At least, that's how I would like it. Whoa! That's the best idea I've heard yet! It makes complete sense, and I like the idea of the history exam; that would solve the problem of not knowing how K1 and K2 ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Do you honestly have that limited of an imagination where you just "have" to have the protaganist and every little bit of information 'defined' in absolutes? The point is that there has to be a canon appearance, alignment, ect, no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 The point is that there has to be a canon appearance, alignment, ect, no matter what. What for? If that was the intention of the game designers in the first place, there wouldn't be a choice. The defeats the purpose of an "RPG" entirely. Revan and Exile already have canon genders anyway, and that's enough for writers to get by with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Agreed. I can accept a canon alignment and gender for both Revan and Exile for the sake of reference by authors, but in the games it really is the player's decision. I want to see both Revan and Exile in KotOR3, but not before I've decided gender, alignment, appearance, and jedi class for them both earlier in the game. They were both my characters, so I should get to decide the specifics, which is fortunately easy to do in a computer game. A worse problem is how you can do a single plot, where they will appear regardless of their alignments (and so chosen endings) of the previous games, but I do think KotOR2 was specifically set up to overcome that obstacle. I still think and hope that both Revan and Exile will be in KotOR3, but that they will be both have turned to the dark side when you meet them, even if you set them both to light side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Nova Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 What for? If that was the intention of the game designers in the first place, there wouldn't be a choice. The defeats the purpose of an "RPG" entirely. Revan and Exile already have canon genders anyway, and that's enough for writers to get by with. I agree. Besides that, there is no reason to have them return in the first place. Nobody here is writing the story for K3, so you can't just sit here and say "We need Revan to wrap up the story" or "We should start at the Jedi Temple on Courascant" etc. There are a hundred ways you can wrap up Revan and the Exile's fate without them coming to you and spoon-feeding their knowledge to you. It's too bad the majority of KOTOR fans don't realize this, or simply refuse to accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiser_Cain Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 New guy that I basicly shape, that is I want my actions to shape my character and affect the overall scenario(like say you never blew up perragus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteGab1979 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Don't know, man...I think the Exile was more mysterious than Revan or any other character. Maybe I'm mistaken, but KotOR 2 made him/her a very intriguing character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperSkeele Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I've read a lot of different opinions on the main character in KoTOR 3. Although I think Revan should again be the main character, there are some who think that should be the Exile and some who think we need a completely new character. Well, the easiest way to know for sure what the majority wants is a poll. So, vote for your prefered character and maybe give an explanation for your opinion. I want to be the undead Darth Nihilus, and I also want to hear my responses in his technogurgle voice. He could survive through some fluke of the Force, Like Revan, but this time remembering everything....would he go light side in order to reclaim his position as dark lord? would he stay darkside, and battle endlessly to regain his dark lord standing, or would he have a revelation of the death and destruction of the dark side, and swing away struggling for life, redemption, and finally acceptance into the Jedi order, to become "The Gifted One" yeah, thats my characer, the very bad turning away against all odds, struggling and clawing my way to Jedi Pupil, old, tired, beaten, but not dead yet, the Great and Terrible starting over learning humility and the higher ideals, seeking attonement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 Yeah, I suppose it would be interesting to play as a weakened Nihilus and then recover his full strength and choose whether to use it for a good or an evil cause. Nihilus would, of course have to lose his evil-looking robes and we'd have to pick a face for him (her?). Just for continuity's sake - I still hope Revan will be the main character in K3, but I do it with a lot less enthusiasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperSkeele Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Whoever I get to be in KOTOR III I would like a much wider range of choices, and not just human choices. I'm not sure what race I would prefer, but with a wider range of choices, it gives more variety and replayability (is that a word?) Also, why is it that only dark side characters get the cool tattoos? I'd like to be able to pick a head, add a hairstyle and a facial hairstyle, pick my skin color and hair color, and it would be cool to have the option of adding tattoos regardless of alignment. My second choice would be Revan, and I would only want the exile under two conditions, 1) the story is better written, and 2) he gets a chance to somehow make ammends with what Jedi Council members remain, and then to go on a galaxy wide hunt for any and every sith intent on destroying the Jedi. (it would stand to reason that some sith may be satisfied with their own evil circumstances, like Uthar) Eventually you would piss off whatever dark lord is in charge, but whatever happens I think it would have to be a sneak attack by the Sith because the Exile wiped out the previous two dark lords like they were little girls, and they were supposed to be badasses. The Exile should be able to easily best anyone he faces, what fun is there in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draethe Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 i would really like to play as revan again. If i cant i at least want revan in the game and all the story arcs resolved. whats the point of setting up this whole off to the fight the true sith if we dont get to see or participate in it. it would make the last 2 games pointless. In regards to whether revan is too powerful now to use. wouldnt he have to be to fight this threat anyway? Plus theres no guaranty a stardard rpg engine will be used so the level thing may not really matter. When are they gonna announce something its driving me crazy. Im happy to wait for a quality game i just need to know theres actually something to wait for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revans disciple Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 For me, Revan, definetly. I don't like the idea of a third god wandering the galaxies and killing every oppositon. Because then there would be no need to do anything if there are two gods defending... *our* galaxy. What if they decide to make K4 after some time? That would be a little too difficult, exept if some of the heroes just happen to die, which seems hard to believe. So please no new character if you ask me. Edit: Oh, and I agree with Viper; the exile had a way too much power. A character that would be weak against his/her enemies at first would be nice. Like Revan in K1. That makes you need the party members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scars Unseen Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 If KOTOR 3 followed the d20 rules more faithfully there would be no need for your character to become an uberjedi for the game to be fun. Anyone remember the original Baldur's Gate? You had a level cap of about 9 in that game and the game was a great success. It's not about the power of the character, but rather what the character does within the bounds of the power he has. We've seen the story of the fallen hero and the story of the general who turned his back on war. I think that the next character should be a jedi that has not fallen(well not prior to the beginning of the game anyway), but has been raised with the order(whaterver there is left of it) and has been taught the jedi perspective on the lessons to be learned from Revan's fall(and according to canon, redemption). Instead of being a powerful jedi that lost his power, make him a padawan like Bastilla was, with his destiny ahead of him rather than behind. From there it's a simple matter to introduce events that would send him investigating the unknown regions for whatever trouble Revan and the Exile are sure to stir. And the character doesn't have to be as powerful as either of them. There are more ways to victory and better endings to a story than "go beat the all powerful bad guy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Architect Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Who do I want to play as in KOTOR III? Look, I could write an encyclopedia as to why Revan and the Exile cannot and shoud not be the main character/s in a potential KOTOR III game, we have to and should play as a new main character in KOTOR III. However, I do feel that we as players, should be allowed to choose the genders/alignments of Revan and the Exile, if we can't, then don't make the game, or base the storyline off in a completely new timeline. My dream is you get to play as Revan and the Exile for a little while towards the end of KOTOR III (which would require you to not only customize their genders/alignments, which is a must, but also their appearences, lightsaber type, lightsaber colour and class) but then what about all the people who haven't played KOTOR and/or KOTOR II? There going to say "What the hell is this?" Add that to the fact that in terms of size, time and costing, it will be difficult to do, hence the term dream, which I said before. I do have an idea on how to bring back Revan and the Exile in the flesh in KOTOR III (but I'll save that for another time) however, if they do not appear in KOTOR III, I can't say I'll be surprised or disappointed, because I know that bringing back Revan and the Exile in KOTOR III can potentially backfire big time, but if you ask me, killing them both off cheaply behind the scenes just to get rid of them IMO is equally disappointing, so what do you do with them? There are a lot of complications regarding Revan and the Exile with KOTOR III, but when I have more time, I'll talk about my idea and see what the feedback is (although I'm not expecting much positive feedback to be honest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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