shinyjedi Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 If I want to see death and destruction, I'll watch the nightly news. I play video games FOR the happy ending against insurmountable odds. I, for one, am glad they cut the "Atton's death" out of TSL. Would have ruined the game for me (at least while playing female PC) I remember being royally torqued when I thought Atris had killed Briana. Only the excessive cost of replacement controllers kept the one I was holding from close congress with the wall. While I'll accept the deaths of characters in certain circumstances (read, "whoops, maybe I shouldn't have told NPCX he was a sissy-girly-man if he didn't charge the Krayt Dragon singlehanded with nothing but a mining laser and half a plate of cold manacotti!") It should at least be possible to get out with everybody important alive. And if I can save the bad guy in the end? meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick5770 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I like all the characters, good and bad, but Canderous should die fighting for his race, nt really like a hero though, and Jolee could maybe die of old age. T3 could also get blown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokejedi123 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Hmmm....what a the end they should put the dead chars as Fg(Force Ghost).(Kreia,Dicsiple(Disicple fans : atton fans: ). OFFTOPIC:The end should Be a huge war with lots of soldiers and fighters and tanks are around you an you shred them to pices with you lightsaber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Well, for one Mira could die in KoTOR 3, if she even makes an appearance - Kreia said at the end of TSL that Mira would die fighting on a forgotten planet, so... Right now I don't know who else could die, but I'll get back to y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelos Kumani Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 @Distorted - No I agree with you...don't start doubting what is plainly in the games to this date! If you have followed most of the dialouge options for the major NPC's in TSL then I think that you would see that all of them point to this philosophy that regardless of light/dark Revan was thnking of the balance of the galaxy...If you don't believe me, go back and run through the dialogues with GOTO, Brianna, and Kreia for starters - I think that you will see that you have been connecting the right dots! They have put way too much of the back story into TSL for it simply to change or not matter when KOTOR 3 gets developed (notice I said when, not if). I have even argued that the story of the Exile is much the same - regardless of light/dark - it is about understanding that the Exile must choose the same path as Revan. Because of this...I think that KOTOR 3 has a very good chance to foucs on the sacrifice of the Exile and Revan in order to save the galaxy. So much so, that it may even involve the PC character attempting to understand why - and then being faced with the same choice. As far as companions go...we know that Mira is supposed to die, just not sure exactly when - I thought that Kreia had said she would die many years later (amy or may not be in the timeframe of KOTOR 3?). I am not so sure that Atton will die...I would not be surprised to see him "run away" again (perhaps providing a link for the new PC to TSL and KOTOR 1). I think that it would be very appropriate to have Mandolore die - but I agree with most that it should be in some way that his life is sacrificed for the greater good and by doing so he establishes the legacy of the Mandolorians. I think that Brianna and/or the Discple will survive in order to keep some semblance of the "jedi" in play... At times I think that Bao-Dur will sacrifice himself for the Exile, but I also wonder if the opposite might be true... KOTOR 1 characters that might make appearences (/only to die)...I think will be limited. Most likely their fates will be explained, but I imagine that it will be through dialogue options... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-false Jedi Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I'd hope that any characters that die would have noble deaths. Such as dieing in a huge epic battle, perhaps with a Sith Lord, but not going out easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick5770 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Actually I get tired of the god guys dying like heros and the baddies dying like wusses. There needs to be some good guys just walking along when boom, their dead, and at least one baddie should die without any conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Saint_Killa† Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Instead of baddies dying like wusses, get redempted and die with honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-false Jedi Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I was thinking of them dieing with a huge amount of effort. Such as in several parts, he goes through several Jedi before finally being barely weak enough to defeat with difficulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Iggy beat me to it, and as much as I hate to say it, Mira's story has to be completed before the series' end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora Merlow Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 i definitely don't want the PC to die in the end, for me that would make the game a bit pointless. I wouldn't mind Jolee to die in a somewhat Yoda fashion, peacefully becoming one with the force after passing on some vital bit of info that acts as a massive twist in the game. Just for example, that the PC is Revan and Bastila's child, or some big thing like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I agree with RJM. Mira saw the two sides of the war. She was first Mandalorian, then helped the Republic, by helping the Exile. It's a to cool story to end like this. Maybe she can help rebuild the Mandalorians, after Candarous dies? Mira: 'Boba, I AM your mother!' Boba: 'NOOOOO' ____________ @Topic I forgot one thing to mention. Every single game/film trilogy/book of Starwars ended with a big epic battle in wich several people die. -We had the Jedi order in Episode 3 -Darth Vader and the Empire in Episode 6 -The death of the last imperial grandadmiral in the 'Heir of the Empire' books -death of Desh Randar in 'Shadow of the Empire' I think that, if they try to end the Revan trilogy, they should end with a blast. Of course the series won't be stopped. It could continue with a part 4, maybe 2000 years later for example. In my opinion they should finsih it in style. Maybe a last Mandalorian army fighting alongside the ailing Republic to beat the Sith? A last alliance of sworn enemys? The last battle of the Mandalorians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Just for example, that the PC is Revan and Bastila's child, or some big thing like that Are you saying that Revan would be the father of Bastila's child, and the revelation of that will be Revan's dying words? Brilliant! Mira: 'Boba, I AM your mother!' Boba: 'NOOOOO' 1: That makes no sense. Mira died 4000 years before Boba Fett was born, and Boba has no biological mother because he's a clone. 2: What does that have to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 @Alkonium: It was a joke It does have some reality in it though. In the expanded universe, the Mandalorians return. Boba Fett is in fact a mandalorian. Since there are still so many in the Kotor games, they must have died somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-false Jedi Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Kreia said that she will live for a while. But persoanlly i'd like to think Kreia saw a different future. Always in motion it is darn it! The Dark side clouds everything, impossbile to see the future is. something In Truce at Bakura i think Luke saw a future that didn't come to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSion101 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Ok my input says Carth needs to bite the dust, along with that annoying and inferior cat Juhani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyjedi Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 All roads lead to an infinite number of possible futures. Each step is a step on a new road if you want it to be. Keep in mind that ALL the traditional jedi see the Exile as a force vacuum, but the game itself tells you, as do some of those you encounter, that Exile's in touch with it and that the connection is increasing . Keep also in mind that pretty much every master you meet in the game is wrong on at least a couple of pretty basic levels, and you begin to see that the force may not work just the way they think it does. Kreia even hints at the fact that she realizes they are the tail end of the epoch (ala late age Romans, wallowing in the former glory of the empire with no real clue as to how it had been built) when she speaks to you while you're on Korribon. Zaz pretty much admits that the order had already fallen before the Exile faced them that last time, and goes on at some length about their failings. Suffice to say that there's plenty of room for interpretation in those final statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shato Khan Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 die exile die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Whatever predictions Kreia or any other character did in the previous games... they may all be wrong, why should Kreia see what will actually happen? So Mira does not have to be death on a planet in order to save people... If the PC dies, well, i'd call that a bad Rpg story. Personally i dont really want a major character to die, unless you can choose to do it yourself. (DS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremia Skywalk Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 NOOOO my PC will not die. I wanna end game neutral and screw galaxy and go live with my wife as a farmer (after saving galaxy or my own ass) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I don't mind party members dying, but it would be more effective if you had at least some contol over it. I think deaths are good for the story, but being an rpg their should be an element of choice. Even somehting simple like a conversation before the final battles. The guys talking about sacrafice. And you get the choice along the lines of: "would you die for me? (romanticness i guess)" "would you die for the cause?" "make sure you save your own ass" You get the gist. If he/she implied that they would give their life, then they will later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyjedi Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 I'm with Jerimiah. Save the Galaxy, run off with the main squeeze and regale the youngsters with tales of your lost youth. And personally, I don't think I'd like a game where companions are pre-ordained to die. Like Cpt Kirk, you should always be able to figure out a way to game the system just enough to prevent that. If you want your party members to live and they don't, it should be due to some sort of screwup on your part (adding replayability as you go back through the game and try to save them next time around) On the other hand, if you want them dead, I don't see any reason you shouldn't be able to make that choice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobogarcia Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Id like to see someone die, like when your party splits up in K2, the other "team" dies, just to make it personal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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