Astrotoy7 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Im curious as to whether anyone has had a try of ie7. Apparently its beta 2 version just came up a few days ago(Mar 20) Im pretty content with Firefox now, and havent checked this out. In fact I would be unable to as it only runs if you have XP with SP2, and I absolutely refuse that cluttering up my compy and doing naught all. Anyone tried it out ? What are your impressions ? Lolz...I like how they have decided to include tabbed browisng. Can M$ get any lamer ?? IMO : NO. I like how(in this instance) a multi billion enetrprise is having its backside whipped by some clever geeks dedicated to making a great open source browser... here a link for the curious http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/ie7betaredirect.mspx mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu7 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I tried it a while ago, it was decent, but it was still kinda slow, and the tabbed browsing just didn't seem right(cant remember why, haven't booted it up in a few months). But anyways, it's still definately not close to being as good as firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Why is firefox so good? i just use the generic ie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Im curious as to whether anyone has had a try of ie7. Apparently its beta 2 version just came up a few days ago(Mar 20) Microsoft software is usually sufficiently buggy and full of security holes even in their release versions. I think I will skip the opportunity to see how their beta versions stack up From what I've heard from others though its not that bad. Apparently Microsoft is capable to some extent of learning from past mistakes and still put some innovation into the new version. Why is firefox so good? i just use the generic ie. Personally I prefer it since it allows you (with the proper extension) to defend yourself against annoying content on the web. Malware-ish scripts, irritating avatars and intrusive or aggravating banners/ads/popups can be made to disappear with but a single click. You are usually better protected against many security exploits as well. The tabbed browsing (that pretty much any browser save for IE6 has by now) is pretty handy as well, allowing you to have many pages open without drowning in a sea of browser windows. (As a downside though, there are still a fair amount of pages designed primarily to be viewed by IE, which don't look the way they should in Firefox, even though it shows them. Never understood why it seems to be impossible for software developers to make the same page look identical in all browsers...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 Why is firefox so good? i just use the generic ie. Believe me, I was a hesitant about FF mainly because of the plethora of "FF Nazis" trying to shove it down my throat. but after having a go at it, and checking out the themes/extesions I must admit its it is just so versatile that it makes ie looks antiquated and inadequate. Extensions like adblock/filterset g, flashgot and the numerous search engines you can integrate into the one search area make it *useful* and *functional* You can even make it load pages in ie for that very rare page that doesnt work properly in FF. Though Im not at the level of fervour that would make me put a "getfirefox" link in my sig I'm going to have to admit: "Ich bin Ein Firefoxer!" mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 From what I've heard from others though its not that bad. Apparently Microsoft is capable to some extent of learning from past mistakes and still put some innovation into the new version. ... And in the process, creating new, more dangerous mistakes and harassing us with those damned "user-friendly" and "MSN" and all that commercial ****. Then FF2 will come out and everybody will once again forget what IE is, and Microsoft will be... <insert sexually explicit insult here> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 (As a downside though, there are still a fair amount of pages designed primarily to be viewed by IE, which don't look the way they should in Firefox, even though it shows them. Never understood why it seems to be impossible for software developers to make the same page look identical in all browsers...) Because internet explorer allows for ****ty coding, instead of forcing you to actually follow rules. As such, browsers that don't suck end up showing the website as it's true crappily made self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 So, I'm on IE7 as I type this. Just installed the browser. It's looks good and is definitely faster than it's older versions. The interface is brand new and as I had expected, promoting user-friendliness. While it looks bewildering at first, you get used to it, once you find out it's nooks and crannies. The crystal stuff does look good, though. The tabs are too large, though. Looking at the whole thing, it looks more like a Netscape or an Opera masterpiece to counter Firefox, 'cuz this thing looks imperfect. I activated the menu bar, for example, and it's stuck between the address-cum-navigation-cum-search bar and the favourites-cum-tab-cum-print-and-everything-else bar. The browsing space is big, which is good and has a much larger space. So, I would definitely encourage y'all to try this out, cuz it's good and unless Mozilla scrambles fast, this one can be a real hard-hitter. REVIEW EDIT ONE I've been about an hour or more on this now. The tabbed browsing is horribly clumsy. Browser slows down when using multiple tabs. Messed up UI is now eating my brain. Can't handle the un-neat-ness. REVIEW EDIT TWO Alright, second day. Some images are not loading, even with the 'Show Picture' thing. Some pages are not loading completely. But being the cunning devil I am, I will not report these problems to Micro$oft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Unlikely... Internet Evil 7 has secruity holes in it, and other crap that is just waiting to be exploited Im sure. Plus Im sure its bloatware. Ill stick with my Firefox thanks. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 All browsers have security holes that can be exploited... Anyways, I kind of like this new browser (I'm using it to type this), although the new look will take some time to get used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 ...cuz it's good and unless Mozilla scrambles fast, this one can be a real hard-hitter. wow, awesome ninja backflip in two posts sabre either that or you are being ridiculously sarcastic I would have given it a try but as it *forces* you to have to upgrade to sp2 it aint gonna happen am I perturbed... no mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 ... And in the process, creating new, more dangerous mistakes and harassing us with those damned "user-friendly" and "MSN" and all that commercial ****. Then FF2 will come out and everybody will once again forget what IE is, and Microsoft will be... (sexually explicit insult snipped) I doubt it, as Firefox isn't anywhere near the most commonly used browser as it currently stands. Despite all its flaws, the hegemony of MSIE is still largely unchallenged. When Microsoft holds out their hoops, most normal users tend to jump through. If IE7 is available at Windows Update when it's finished most IE users will continue to use IE, and some who switched to Firefox (or other browsers) for non-ideological reasons may well switch back if their concerns have been addressed. There is a certain sense of safety in going with the de-facto industry standard, after all. Unfortunately IE7 may well impede the growth of Firefox user base, just like a few years ago, when MSIE knocked Netscape Navigator from being essentially synonymous with the WWW into obsolete obscurity in little more than a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 When Microsoft holds out their hoops, most normal users tend to jump through. If IE7 is available at Windows Update when it's finished most IE users will continue to use IE, and some who switched to Firefox (or other browsers) for non-ideological reasons may well switch back if their concerns have been addressed. There is a certain sense of safety in going with the de-facto industry standard, after all. Precisely why I got this baby. My dad is an IE7 loyalist. He likes innovation and all, but prefers the default and compatible things, over third party stuff. This is some form of Chewbacca defense, I believe, cuz whenever my computer behaves abnormally, he blames it on FF. I knew there was an IE7 in the works, but didn't know 'bout the beta. I got this one for dad, in hopes that he can finally blame IE itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 ....Windows Update ..... *blood boils* I get urges to kill when I think of windows update. People just blindly adding all this shyte to their system thinking that they *must* do it to "make it work better" or "be more secure". For most 'average' users, this is hardly the case... If people just keep good habits with browsing and maintenance they should never experience any huge problems that are caused by the system(as opposed to themselves ) mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I never ever use windows update... ever. Half the crap on that updater is for patching IE. And if you use FF, then its not needed. I still dont use SP2, and probly wont. Your dad should do research on IE and FF instead of just blaming it on FF because its not from Microsuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 ^^^^ I'm having a little laugh over the fact that you (among others) use Windows despite your hatred of Microsoft If you really hate them there's always the possibility of using Linux and getting Wine and Cedega for compatibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 What makes you think Im using Windows? I could be using Linux for all you know. (Im not) The ONLY reason I use Windows still because the games that I have wont work with Cedega/Wine (ive tried). If there were linux games of the ones I play, then Id switch and sell my Windows cd. And I dont hate M$, I just dont like them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 What makes you think Im using Windows? I could be using Linux for all you know. (Im not) The ONLY reason I use Windows still because the games that I have wont work with Cedega/Wine (ive tried). If there were linux games of the ones I play, then Id switch and sell my Windows cd. And I dont hate M$, I just dont like them... I never ever use windows update What games do you have that don't work with Cedega and/or Wine though? Half-Life 2 runs well on Cedega and the Source Engine was written entirely in DirectX... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Why does everyone toss out Halflife 2 when they mention games that run on cedega? XD Ive never owned the game or even played it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I mentioned the reason why I mentioned HL2. The Source Engine (the engine it runs on) was written entirely in DirectX, which is a Windows API-based library for graphics. Hell, Valve even used a modified version of the DirectX vector class, which is something I rarely ever see, being as it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted April 2, 2006 Author Share Posted April 2, 2006 lolz, Mac, Linux, Windows.... I relly dont care. All have been created to make pRon work on computaz. "Internet King. I want faster nudity ! [/Comic Store Guy to Homer] mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 IE 7.0 beta will not run to its full capability on Win XP they full version will only fully work on Vista >_> if I'm forced to move to Vista I'm going 100% linux instead of 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 ^^^^ you could always run a duel-boot OSX/Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 ^^^^ you could always run a duel-boot OSX/Windows. switch that to OSX and linux. Personally I'd like to drop windows all together but I have games that won't run on any emulator for linux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Firefox has security holes too, remember. Nothing is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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