Vaelastraz Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I've seen exactly this thread in quite some forums, why not post it here too? Well, this is a discussion: Who would win, Jedi/sith, or X-men (take only the ones from the movies)... One example, which jedi could defeat Wolverine? Wolverine regenerates any wound in seconds, plus he has an undestructable adamantium skeleton. Which makes him almost invincible in combat. Now the question is, can lightsabers cut through adamantium? I'd say no... Or which jedi could possiblly defeat Magneto? Magneto has unlimited telecinetic power over metal.. lightsabers would be turned into a danger for the jedi! So, say who would win and why! This only works tho if some ppl know something about xmen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 the only thing that can stop a lightsaber blade is cortosis, and i don't theres plently of that lying around on this chewed-up planet, so one swipe and wolverine's head goes off. you don't need a lightsaber to deal out damage if you're a Jedi. Force Crush on magnet-head, nuff said. nightcrawler could be stasised and a$$-whupped by any padawan jedi. rogue takes time to remove her gloves. lightsaber through her abs before she knows who hit her Jean Grey vs Qui Gon in a force-vs-telekenesis-battle. Qui Gon would pwn! Yoda vs Prof X in another force-vs-telekenesis battle. yoda pwns. so all in all, JEDI PWN X-MEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSR Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 yeah, what he said^^^ force-sensitives would win. x-men wouldnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 maybe this should have been a poll. any mods interested? Done! ~ ChAiNz.2da Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 the only thing that can stop a lightsaber blade is cortosis, and i don't theres plently of that lying around on this chewed-up planet, so one swipe and wolverine's head goes off. We don't know anything about lightsabers vs. adamantium, so this one is pure speculation. you don't need a lightsaber to deal out damage if you're a Jedi. Force Crush on magnet-head, nuff said. Magneto manipulates metal from a large distance. He would manipulate the Jedi's saber long before the Jedi could get close enough to perform the Force Crush. nightcrawler could be stasised and a$$-whupped by any padawan jedi. By a padawan? Definitely not. By a Jedi? Probably. rogue takes time to remove her gloves. lightsaber through her abs before she knows who hit her Well, I'd have to agree with this one, unless Rogue sneaks up on the Jedi from behind. Jean Grey vs Qui Gon in a force-vs-telekenesis-battle. Qui Gon would pwn! Jean Grey/Phoenix would desintegrate Qui-Gon before he could say ''lightsaber''. Yoda vs Prof X in another force-vs-telekenesis battle. yoda pwns. Again not true. Both of them are very powerful, so, honestly, there's no telling who would win. so all in all, JEDI PWN X-MEN All in all, they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 ^^ do too. 1. Adamantium is just the strongest metal, it cant resist pure energy. 2. a jedi with common sense would not take his lightsaber in a fight with magneto 3. Revan was a padawan of the order when he killed Malak. if the Dark Lord of the Sith can be killed that easily, why not nightcrawler? 4. a jedi can sense all life forms, so sneaking up won't work 5. Qui Gon won't 'say' lightsaber. he'll 'do' lightsaber 6. a wheelchaired guy against the fastest thing in the galaxy? i dont think so 7. all in all, they do too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOxyClean Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 We don't know anything about lightsabers vs. adamantium, so this one is pure speculation.[/Quote] Ah, but could a very powerful Force Crush, for lack of a better word, crush the adamantium from a distance? Magneto manipulates metal from a large distance. He would manipulate the Jedi's saber long before the Jedi could get close enough to perform the Force Crush.[/Quote] You don't need a lightsaber to defeat him. Have 5 Jedi discard any metal, and send them in, using only Force powers. By a padawan? Definitely not. By a Jedi? Probably.[/Quote] By a Sith? Definitly. Well, I'd have to agree with this one, unless Rogue sneaks up on the Jedi from behind.[/Quote] Roflmao!! Sneak up on a Jedi?? LOL!!!! Bye Bye Rogue!!! Jean Grey/Phoenix would desintegrate Qui-Gon before he could say ''lightsaber''.[/Quote] Well, DUH. "Lightsaber" is a long word. But seriously, nothing short of a Death Star or Sun Crusher would stop Pheonix. Again not true. Both of them are very powerful, so, honestly, there's no telling who would win.[/Quote] Quite true. I honestly can't see Yoda just simply decapitating Xavier. It would be a battle of the minds, not weapons. All in all, they don't. Both sides would be caught off guard. The X-Men would be like, What the hell? Oh crud. The Jedi would just consider the X-men to be a new alein. They can't possibly be worse than Sith or Yuuzhan Vong!!! Pretty evenly matched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 ^^ do too. 1. Adamantium is just the strongest metal, it cant resist pure energy. 2. a jedi with common sense would not take his lightsaber in a fight with magneto 3. Revan was a padawan of the order when he killed Malak. if the Dark Lord of the Sith can be killed that easily, why not nightcrawler? 4. a jedi can sense all life forms, so sneaking up won't work 5. Qui Gon won't 'say' lightsaber. he'll 'do' lightsaber 6. a wheelchaired guy against the fastest thing in the galaxy? i dont think so 7. all in all, they do too 1) Like I said, we DON'T know that, we can speculate all we want, but we just don't know. 2) A Jedi with common sense wouldn't take anything made of metal in a fight against Magneto, but we're talking about fights where the opponents don't really know each other's abilities. 3) Revan was a Jedi Master, then a Sith Lord, then a Padawan with a slight case of amnesia, he regained most of his powers and defeated his APPRENTICE. 4) I'll give you that one. 5) He'll try, but Phoenix would still crush him in a matter of seconds. 6) You're seriously underestimating Xavier's powers. He and Yoda are more than evenly matched, so my previous statement stands - there's no telling who would win. 7) All in all, they don't. Some in some, they do. ^^Both sides would be caught off guard. The X-Men would be like, What the hell? Oh crud. The Jedi would just consider the X-men to be a new alein. They can't possibly be worse than Sith or Yuuzhan Vong!!! Pretty evenly matched. My point exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantzen Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Think there is 50/50, some battles the Jedi would win, some the X-Mens And when was Revan a jedi master?? He have not been a master, just a Sith Lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 Hehe.. OK, now assume this: Prof X uses Cerebro to locate every single force sensitive, and kills all of them. Who can resist him? Fighters can't... only those who are possibly of a higher willpower might be able to resist him.. Adamantium vs Lightsaber? IN the xmen universe, adamantium is COMPLETLY undestructable, not even Phoenix can destroy it. In the star wars universe, ligthsabers can cut through ALMOST everything... Completely vs almost? adamantium wins.. Wolverine just parries saber strikes with his claws, and guts the jedi. Magneto just lifts up a golden gate bridge ro crush any jedi... now don't tell me any jedi can fight his telecinetic power over metal.. Xmen would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOxyClean Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 1. Adamantium is just the strongest metal, it cant resist pure energy. 2. a jedi with common sense would not take his lightsaber in a fight with magneto 3. Revan was a padawan of the order when he killed Malak. if the Dark Lord of the Sith can be killed that easily, why not nightcrawler? 4. a jedi can sense all life forms, so sneaking up won't work 5. Qui Gon won't 'say' lightsaber. he'll 'do' lightsaber 6. a wheelchaired guy against the fastest thing in the galaxy? i dont think so 7. all in all, they do too 1. True 2. A jedi with common sense wouldn't know not to!!! They have no idea what these X-men are capable of!!! 3. WTF? Revan was a amnesiac Padwan with the powers of a Jedi Master. But malak WAS a Lord. 4. Thus, Rogue no longer has a head. 5. And Pheonix will "disentigrate" Lightsaber. Then various body parts, and finally, the body. 6. Forget the wheelchair!!!!Yoda will be in trouble!!! You ever try decapitating a crippeled man while your brain is being invaded and destroyed from the inside? It's no a simple walk in the Naboo gardens!!!! 7. All in all, they both destroy each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOxyClean Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Hehe.. OK, now assume this: Prof X uses Cerebro to locate every single force sensitive, and kills all of them.[/Quote] Then every being in the universe would die, including the X-men. The Force is in everything. Every living thing is considered sensitive to the Force. Now, if he targeted every force USER, then the Jedi would be dead. Adamantium vs Lightsaber? IN the xmen universe, adamantium is COMPLETLY undestructable, not even Phoenix can destroy it. In the star wars universe, ligthsabers can cut through ALMOST everything...[/Quote] The Star Wars events occured millenia before our galaxy was even created. They also had superior technology, different resources, and more intelligent beings. Adamantium may be indestructible in our world, but it is nothing in Star Wars world. Wolverine just parries saber strikes with his claws, and guts the jedi.[/Quote] FORCE POWERS. Magneto just lifts up a golden gate bridge ro crush any jedi... now don't tell me any jedi can fight his telecinetic power over metal..[/Quote] FORCE POWERS Xmen would win. Xmen die. Jedi die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peff Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Here Vaelastraz so all in all, JEDI PWN X-MEN ... Magneto vs Yoda The lightsaber has some metal on it.. Magneto uses his powers. Grab the lightsaber and smash it on Yoda. You have seen how fast he does such things !! AND Phoenix would own all the jedis without resistance : Step One : Turn jedi into dust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Oh god, not this stupid argument again. I've had this one with my friend too many times to count, and I hate it. Why can't everybody just see the obvious? all in all, JEDI PWN X-MEN 'nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 ^^^ glad to see someone on my side but seriously though, if yoda can lift an X-Wing from a swamp, the Prof X is just a bug in his path. yoda has a very high will power so he can resist mind invasions. baldy goes down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinervadonella Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Jean Grey vs Qui Gon in a force-vs-telekenesis-battle. Qui Gon would pwn! :lol: 2 words. Dark Pheonix. Actualy I havn't seen xIII yet, so I don't know what their version of the Dark Pheonix is like, but if she is anything like the Dark Pheonix from the New X-Men comic books, Qui Gon (or any other Jedi/Sith) would be a little more than a pile of ash. She'd burn him just to see what burning Jedi felt like. But than again maybe your right. Pheonix/Dark Pheonix was an alien entity in possesion of Jean's body (again comic book here) and not realy Jean so Pheonix/Dark Pheonix wasn't realy an x-men team member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Wow, that's some competition going on there. ^_^ I vote for Jedi, since well, the Force is invincible and can do anything. The X-Men have more limited powers, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Sorry guys, but I don't think the X-Men should be underestimated, so, although I think if the two battled it would be a tie, I voted X-Men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peff Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Imagine Phoenix aka Jean eating Yoda dust. the last remains of him. Heh. Many of the X-men have super sharp sence. On the Sidious vs Mace scene : Sidious kill all of the three jedis that has joined Mace to arrest sidious. See ? Three jedis in one hit each. And you know how weak Palpatine is. Vader could just lift him up with no resistance and throw him to a deep dark hole. Talking about Force sence.. proffesor Xavior pwns all the jedis in mind trick. magneto can control their lightsabers pretty well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted June 23, 2006 Author Share Posted June 23, 2006 Phoenix is just imbalacenced. Has anyone seen the movie? She can disintegrate everything (except Adamantium) AND her "standart" telekinetic powers are more than enough, to break through extremely thick metal doors, or to throw Wolverine backwards and make him uncouncious ( i know, i cant spell). Forcepowers are simply nothing compared to her. She would pwn EVERY jedi/sith But Phoenix is an exception, the only lvl5 mutant in the movies. l What about.. Cyclops? His rays are deadly, but he would lose to any jedi! Because he is too slow, Jedi would just dodge his attacks and slash him into pieces instantly. What about.. Storm? Again, too slow. She is too vulerable to a jedi's powers, especially to a lightsaber. What about.. Wolverine? I'd still say, his adamantium can't be destroyed by lightsabers. After all it is said that is is undestructable, which should cover something like the heat of the sun, nuclear bombs, concentrated laser...but this is speculation! Wolverine is a fighter, while he isn't as fast as Jedi are, he is invulnerable! Lightsaber? doesnt work! Force powers? So what, throw him back, choke him, force lightning him, he will recover! And eventually he will get past the defences of a jedi! Magneto? OK, he has a weakness. But keep in mind, he is immune to all kind of telepatic powers due to his helm. And, who says he needs the jedi's lightsabers to defeat them? He can also just have some metal with him, and he can fly! I'm not too sure if he would win tho... that's pretty even vs jedi since they can dodge a lot of his metal assaults. Mystique? Woah, she would be dangerous! She would utterly confuse the jedi, and would surely be able to kill some of them. Night Crawler? He has the speed of a jedi, he has teleportation. But he has no lightsaber and no force. Jedi wins. Sabertooth? Chopped into pieces. Toad? No chance at all. Rogue? No chance at all. iceman? hm.. too slow, jedi dodge his attack and cut him into pieces. Pyro? same as with iceman JUggernout? Almost invulerable in combat, extreme strength? Short work for a lightsaber Charles Francis Xavier? Oh... Cerebro owns everyone. Except Magneto. Without Cerebro? he can control the minds of many people. Who can resist him? Yoda, Revan, Palpatine maybe. I'm sorry people, Xmen win, thanks to Xavier! And Phoenix! I vote for xmen, by the way, who included a poll into my thread? oO Poll: Me, just for a nice visual comparison of what ppl thought ~ ChAiNz.2da Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOxyClean Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I will repeat this again: THEY WILL ALL KILL EACH OTHER. No one would survive. Although the Jedi greatly outnumber them. But, in the Jedi's case, I would like to see Wolverine survive being on a planet that gets hit by a Sun Crusher or a Death Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSion101 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Here is an interesting battle, one im shocked noone mentioned seeing as we are doing Xmen vs Jedi. I voted Xmen for some of the previously mentioned reasons. But heres the biggest reason for my vote. APOCALYPSE!!!!!!!!!! Muhahahahaha. Who can beat him, hes enhanced with alien technology, is millenia old, he is virtually indestructible, he can grow to any size at will, manipulate energy and matter, so I say JEdi/sith no problem, Lightsabers, bah Apocalypse would simply grow to be as big as a building, and step on the jedi, squis squish splat, no more yoda, no more mace, no more jedi hehehehehe. Then just for fun, he'd cook up enough energy in a blast to fry luke to extra crispy, and turn anakin/vader into a big old chosen one burger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 I'm sorry but, why would a Sith even have to confront a Mutant, using a little Farseeing and a whole bunch of Drain Life, the Mutants are dead and their Force Energy are now consumed by the Sith Lord... the Force allows you to have your own Cerebro if you are prepared. Also any energy/psionic based attack like Pheonix's Immolation would have to get past the Jedi/Sith's Absorb/Dissapate Energy first, the most brilliant display of this was the Yoda vs. Sidious fight. Yoda was absorbing some serious energy there. The Mutants are at a disadvantage because of their singular purposes and abilities, whereas a Jedi/Sith has a multitude of different powers available to them. While Jedi/Sith are far from indistructible they do have the advantage. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 *sigh Yeah...comparing two different universes with different lore... Apples and Oranges peeps. Anyway, Jedi wins. Much cooler. Except for Famke. Famke owns everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace MacLeod Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Meh. Any of the Darths would squash the X-Men flat before they'd have a chance to say "What the f...?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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