Nick Virago Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Hey... wait! Keep those pitchforks away from me!!! I'm telling the truth! Ok, LucasArts has nothing to do with this, allow me to explain: Have you ever heard of the Adventure Game Studio? It's a free engine used to create adventure games (duh!) with no need of knowing anything about programming. Fan-made sequels to Sam & Max or Zak McKracken have been made with this engine, and they were damn good since you can actually rip the sprites from another games (plus they had good stories). Now, I checked the forums recently and there is some user interested in creating "Grim Fandango 2". It might take some time since you can only create 2d games with that engine (there are other engines to create 3d games, but they are far more complicated). For further information, go to bigbluecup.com, then go to the forums and search for "Grim Fandango". Keep your hopes (and your shotguns) down. This is only a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chep Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 It won't have the same voice actors or Tim Schafer to write it. I am not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Isaac Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 AGS isn't a very good choice for a Grim Fandango sequel (mainly due to it being 2D like you said). The Wintermute engine is simple to use and supports 3D characters on 2D backgrounds (Grim Fandango style) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I'm good either way, as long as it's interesting and entertaining. Edit-I just took a look at that Wintermute engine, wow. 3D capabilities and everything, I support it, but the creator's gonna need Milkshape also which isn't free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Isaac Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Actually, I moved this to the Blue Casket because it's not really to do with the game itself - more a fan project. I hope that was the right thing to do becuase this is the first time I moved a thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchythesamurai Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I'd just as soon not have fans try to tackle Grim Fandango. If I need a fix, I'll just fire up the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I say, I say Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I don't understand why people need a sequel to this great game; chances are that a sequel could compromise the first game. Manny and Meche would not reappear in it, nor would many characters because they've gone on or been sprouted. There was an idea though in some other thread about a game set in the period of Grim Fandango from another character perspective? Could be an interesting project for a fan-made game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Isaac Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 There was an idea though in some other thread about a game set in the period of Grim Fandango from another character perspective? Could be an interesting project for a fan-made game. That's what we're doing for the Grim Fandango Half-Life 2 mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrik Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Er, weren't you saying how a sequel to Grim Fandango would be a terrible idea in some other thread Nick? And it's fine James. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Virago Posted July 21, 2006 Author Share Posted July 21, 2006 Er, weren't you saying how a sequel to Grim Fandango would be a terrible idea in some other thread Nick? Yes, it's still a terrible idea to me. Even if they made a prequel so that the popular characters could be in it, I'm gonna quote myself here: Every title (movies AND videogames) with a 2 on it is a desperate attempt to win more money. I just thought you guys should know, since there are a lot of fans here who would like to see a sequel. Hey! since the only possible sequel for this game will be fan-made (if you check lucasarts.com there isn't even a link to GF) it would be a good idea if everyone gave their idea of a good STORY for the sequel (screw the graphics and the music, this is what makes a game good, if someone actually finds a story that suits "Grim Fandango 2", I'm gonna be very surprised). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNaomi Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Every title (movies AND videogames) with a 2 on it is a desperate attempt to win more money. So, why do you think the originals are made? I doubt people at LucasArts thought, "Wow, this is a really stunning idea! Who cares how much it sells as long as we get to express out artistic vision?" EVERY movie and game's main purpose is to make money. The Gabriel Knight sequels were good, Broken Sword sequels were good, The Godfather sequels were good (I even like the third), and so on. Just because something is a sequel doesn't automatically make it bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrik Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Yeah, it's certainly the case with a lot of publishers, but not all sequels are bad and desperate. For example, many people consider Monkey Island 2 the best in the series by far, and Half-Life 2 is an absolute belter of a game. Plus VampireNaomi's examples, plus the other games out there with top-notch sequels. Money is of course the primary incentive for any publisher when it comes to approving a game, sequel or otherwise, but it's really the developers that are responsible for whether the game itself is good or bad. If a game isn't a labour of love, it'll probably show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Du Man Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 for the story of Grim Fandango, yeah, you can't make a sequal. that's like try to make a sequal out of Hamlet, to many people are already dead. then again... any way, i've been waiting FOREVER for Light Houses 4 part to The Land of the Dead (can't spell the spanaish), and I would certainly get any game that takes place in the environment of Grim Fandango, it's just creating the same great characters and the hilarious dialogue that would be the challange. But hey, i'm sure there are enough dead jokes out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Virago Posted August 6, 2006 Author Share Posted August 6, 2006 So, why do you think the originals are made? I doubt people at LucasArts thought, "Wow, this is a really stunning idea! Who cares how much it sells as long as we get to express out artistic vision?" EVERY movie and game's main purpose is to make money. The Gabriel Knight sequels were good, Broken Sword sequels were good, The Godfather sequels were good (I even like the third), and so on. Just because something is a sequel doesn't automatically make it bad. When the originals are made, they HAVE to be creative, they HAVE to get stunning ideas if they want to make a cent with them. But when they make a sequel, they don't, since people will just say: "oh, manny calavera is back in GRIM FANDANGO 2: ZOMBIE ATTACK! since the first one was so damn good i'm gonna go buy this one right now!!!" do you get my point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNaomi Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Yes and no. That may be true with some sequels, but to say that all of them are uncreative, desperate attempts to make more money is garbage. Good sequels exist and sometimes something is meant to have more than one part. Even if they aren't, it doesn't mean that a second (or third, or fourth) part are going to be bad. Believe it or not, but there are people who can create more than one good story with the same characters and ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrik Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Yeah I think you're getting a bit mixed up here Nick. It's the publishers who have all the money counters, and they're the ones who are responsible for saying "The first sold like crazy, so let's make another!". The developers are the ones who actually make the game and get paid roughly the same whether it succeeds or fails, so whether or not the game is a true labour of love is completely up to them and how motivated they are. Developers usually aren't random guys who don't give a damn. They're people whose living is making games, and like anybody they want to do something they can be proud of. It's not in their interests to spend a year or two making a cack game; the only reason this happens is if the developers are given a really lame project, which does happen sometimes and is the only way for a studio to get assigned some juicier projects later on. Try to remember that you're talking about people and not robots here, heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Virago Posted August 6, 2006 Author Share Posted August 6, 2006 personally, I think monkey island 2, 3 & 4 were good/average and no near as good as The Secret of MI. but then again, this is just my opinion, some people think mi2 was actually the best of the series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrik Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 You could be right there, but don't forget that the games industry has changed almost infinitely in the 16 years since since then. I was talking about the current state of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuz Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 OT but can I ask where you got your avatar pic Thrik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrik Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 It's part of the Monkey Island box art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coat check girl Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I would be pretty hard to make a sequel wouldn't it? I mean the last bit of GF is Manny & Meche on the train. All the bad guys are dead or gone, so what would it be about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I would be pretty hard to make a sequel wouldn't it? I mean the last bit of GF is Manny & Meche on the train. All the bad guys are dead or gone, so what would it be about? ...Glottis maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNaomi Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Or Eva. I'd actually love to see a sequel about Eva and the LSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuz Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Yes so would I - a hard-boiled, film noir epic set on the mean streets of El Marrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchythesamurai Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 A sequel might sell if it's an FPS with skeletons blasting each other in state of the art graphics. Probably have to nix the flowers concept though to appeal to the testosterone-filled gaming community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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