Docter_Aap Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 I do, they are a cool team (Empire still pwns) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YertyL Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 They need to be toned down and balanced a bit, but overall I like 'em... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TearsOfIsha Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 I do, they are a cool team (Empire still pwns) In terms of background and design, yeah, they're a good idea. They fit in with the universe. In terms of balance, they're sh1te. Hopefully that'll get fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 I wish I get to know more about it, remember those days in SWG where they talk about being able to join up with the underworld/ now this is THE underworld. And yes I can totally imagine ZC aligned people showing up in other games. No, not GTA, but you get the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I agree with Tears. While it was a cool idea, it was done really badly. Particularly when you have a criminal/underworld organisation with Battleships and Main Battle Tanks, things have become a bit stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordzack Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Well, in the campaign, those things were portrayed as being limited. They only came in at the end. But, yeah, they really shouldn't have them. I want to see the Zann Consortium in other games, like maybe BF III or something. And i want a SWRPG sourcebook on them after Saga edition comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Tyber Zann has the worst voice acting i have ever heared ever, so no. He sounds over-dramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Well, I don't mind a criminal organization having it. I mean, its a big galaxy, and even irl some crime lords have quite a bit of high tech toys. Its their abundance that is weird. But then again, ITS NOT PLAYABLE IF YOU HAVE ONLY A COUPLE OF THE BETTER UNITS... But all in all, its a nice change to the Imp whacking reb games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docter_Aap Posted December 8, 2006 Author Share Posted December 8, 2006 Tyber Zann has the worst voice acting i have ever heared ever, so no. He sounds over-dramatic. Whats so bad about his voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordzack Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I like his voice. And actually, Tyber having the things he does isn't so farfected. After all, the Trade Federation had it's own military, including capital ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge2211 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Hmm...that's a good point. And so did the Corporate Sector Authority in the OT era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TearsOfIsha Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I like his voice. And actually, Tyber having the things he does isn't so farfected. After all, the Trade Federation had it's own military, including capital ships. Hmm...that's a good point. And so did the Corporate Sector Authority in the OT era. Aye, fair enough, but there was no-one that could directly challenge both the rebels and the empire at the same time.... other than the Vong, and I really don't want them in an add-on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Adidas Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Sepratists? They challenge both in a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TearsOfIsha Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Sepratists? They challenge both in a way. He said Trade Federation, not seperatists. The Trade Federation was a part of them but not the entire force - there was the combined arsenals of the Banking Clan, the Techno-Union, the Geonosians and who knows what else as well. That's an entirely different force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge2211 Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 But still, that force involved large capital ships owned by entities like said Banking Clan and capable of going toe to toe with Venators, in addition to the fact that the Trade Federation alone had enough battle cruisers to blockade an entire planet at least. I think that while the Kedalbe battleship might still be a bit of a stretch for the Zann Consortium to acquire en mass, it's not altogether unreasonable for a network of criminal organizations to acquire a large number of Interceptor IVs, Vengeance Frigates, and a smaller number of battleships and destroyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YertyL Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 IMO they could have just left the Keldable out - the ZC would still have had ways to counter everything: The vengeance/Interceptor IV for assault frigates and VSDs/neb-b's and accs and the aggressor for cap ships. This would IMO have made the ZC more unique instead of "we have anything the other factions have and more", but oh well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docter_Aap Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 He said Trade Federation, not seperatists. The Trade Federation was a part of them but not the entire force - there was the combined arsenals of the Banking Clan, the Techno-Union, the Geonosians and who knows what else as well. That's an entirely different force. Also known as the CIS if i'm correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{TheChosenOne} Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 IMO they could have just left the Keldable out - the ZC would still have had ways to counter everything: The vengeance/Interceptor IV for assault frigates and VSDs/neb-b's and accs and the aggressor for cap ships. This would IMO have made the ZC more unique instead of "we have anything the other factions have and more", but oh well.... Agreed. It was entirely unnecessary especially when you look at their weapons. Mass drivers and "special weapons" which shoot EMP type blasts for one AND a giant ball of who knows what that bypasses shields. Imo I hated the ZC. Their weapon(Mass Driver) visuals seemed like a Star Trek rip off. Also the idea that a criminal organization is able to stand toe to toe and even beat the Empire and Rebel Alliance is a bit far fetched and annoying. I also greatly disliked Zann able to defeat Thrawn in the campaign. I always read how he was a genius and was outmatched in terms of strategy, then some criminal scum come and beat him easily. I also dislike Urai and how he is some unknown race, and the Dathomir witches were implemented into the game very poorly. Rancor Riders standing up to AT-AT's? Come on..... It also doesn't help the ZC in the fact that it is now impossible to find rebels or empire in a game outside of banning Consortium from your game. Everyone is playing as them because they are blatantly overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I thought they were a pretty good idea for an expansion, I still prefer the classic rebels and empire I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docter_Aap Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share Posted December 12, 2006 ^ | | | | Wii Controller!!!!!!! (sorry for off topic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi jim 1989 Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 well we all remember the rancor luke had a play with, and if you read the book with dathomir in, luke says that the rancors are like 5 times the size of the one in jabbas palace and that the one jabba had must have been a baby (im not sure if it was 5, mite of been 4) but looking at it id say that a rancor that size could go toe to toe with an atat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TearsOfIsha Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 well we all remember the rancor luke had a play with, and if you read the book with dathomir in, luke says that the rancors are like 5 times the size of the one in jabbas palace and that the one jabba had must have been a baby (im not sure if it was 5, mite of been 4) but looking at it id say that a rancor that size could go toe to toe with an atat Does it? I don't remember anything in the Courtship of Princess Leia along those lines..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi jim 1989 Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 i cant remember the exact measurments but i do remember that they were a lot bigger. if im rong i appologise but im sure it says it somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Well, actually Jabba's Rancor is a big rancor already, even by common mature bull rancor standards. But Dathomir Rancors are both alot bigger, and smarter. There are tales of one old female rancor who is capable of language. And yes rancors can be deadly even against "mechas" This is especially true if they are enhanced, by tech/alchemy/force/machines/etc A sithed out Rancor can rip up tanks many times more powerful than an ATAT with ease. Well, at least in Dark Empire they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust_Lord Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Talking Rancors, Dark Empire....jeez, what happened to Star Wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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