Ping Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Vice versa. Actually, there is evidence: Bastila, who was obviously a Force sensitive, was not alive during the events of the TOR webcomic, which takes place 300 years after TSL. Average lifespan Usually up to 100 standard years; ages up to 300 have been reached among Force-sensitive individuals I should also point out that the 300 years part, as well as a good chunk of the article, is not sourced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Graffiti Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 I should also point out that the 300 years part, as well as a good chunk of the article, is not sourced. Awful canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Awful canon. Damn. To be fair though, that was a Dathomir Witch, who practiced Dark Side stuff. Revan, however, was light sided, meaning he probably didn't have the knowledge to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Vice versa. You're the one who is trying to tell us that it's possible for Revan to have had an extended lifespan (via a technique or simply by being very strong with the Force). The burden of proof is on you to support your claim, not on anyone else to refute it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdisco Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Sorry to tell you, but there is no hard evidence that there isn't some kind of time travel within the Unknown Regions. The Sith could of made a time machine or something like that on one of the planets. A theory is a theory, not canon. Canon is being added to the Star Wars lore every day. Who knows, I could be right. "Always in motion, Star Wars Canon is." ~Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silly Saber Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 The 300 year lifespan quote from Wookiepedia is only there in reference to the matriarchs of the Dathomiri as Giygas pointed out. There is no other reference from any published SW product of any human individual ever living even close to that age. This quote was challenged some time back on Wookiepedia here, asking for an alteration to the article: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Human Damn. To be fair though, that was a Dathomir Witch, who practiced Dark Side stuff. Revan, however, was light sided, meaning he probably didn't have the knowledge to do it. As to the Dathomiri as dark-siders though.... I thought Dathomiri witches were more or less light-sided? My impression was that whilst Dathomir itself was "dark-force heavy", that the only active practitioners were the Nightsisters, but the primary warrior clans like those of the Singing Mountain clan were light-siders by nature, who reviled use of the dark side and exiled any who were caught using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JebusJM Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 Actually, there is evidence: Bastila, who was obviously a Force sensitive, was not alive during the events of the TOR webcomic, which takes place 300 years after TSL. She wasn't as powerful as Revan though. Or she would of killed him on the Star Forge. Damn. To be fair though, that was a Dathomir Witch, who practiced Dark Side stuff. Revan, however, was light sided, meaning he probably didn't have the knowledge to do it. Remember, Revan was the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith at one stage. You're the one who is trying to tell us that it's possible for Revan to have had an extended lifespan (via a technique or simply by being very strong with the Force). The burden of proof is on you to support your claim, not on anyone else to refute it. I wasn't trying to prove anything. This was merely a theory, not a fact I'm trying to back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 She wasn't as powerful as Revan though. Or she would of killed him on the Star Forge. Probably, but I don't think Malak would have sent Bastila after Revan if she didn't have a chance. Remember, Revan was the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith at one stage. No, he wasn't. Revan has never demonstrated any feats in the Force that equal other notable Force users of later times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Reiper Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Damn. To be fair though, that was a Dathomir Witch, who practiced Dark Side stuff. Revan, however, was light sided, meaning he probably didn't have the knowledge to do it. But he started regaining his memory, part of it was what was in the unknown regions, thus he left. Isn't there any chance he could have remembered the technique? I still however, think that it's possible for Revan to appear in TOR. How, you may ask? Force Ghost. You may also ask why he would not leave the unknown regions as a ghost, well, couldn't the Sith have entrapped his soul there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 ^Very true. If, in the unlikely event Revan does make an appearence in TOR, I am 99.9999999% sure he'd have to be a Force Ghost. I personally believe that the True Sith were too much for Revan, and after wreaking havoc, died. After all, one person can't possibly stop an entire nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Reiper Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 ^Very true. If, in the unlikely event Revan does make an appearence in TOR, I am 99.9999999% sure he'd have to be a Force Ghost. I personally believe that the True Sith were too much for Revan, and after wreaking havoc, died. After all, one person can't possibly stop an entire nation. Well, let's count some other achievements they've made: They escaped a planet under quarantine They destroyed the star forge single handedly (The other jedi don't count, cause srsly, they didn't do anything) They found each and every star map Fought and won in a dark jedi filled temple Defeated the dark lord Infiltrated and destroyed a sith academy and depending on how you played, you could do most of this with no help from party members at all. But anyway, wouldn't that make a good setting for a Battleground/Quest in TOR, setting Revan's soul free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 ^^^I think that what happened to Revan (and exile to a lesser degree) are on the minds of everyone who will play the upcoming MMO. IMO, it will be one of the big points or revelations about the whole quest. Here is to hoping, however, that the twist is worth all the hype and truly climactic--I pray that they keep quiet as possible about it to keep people guessing and looking. The 300 year lifespan quote from Wookiepedia is only there in reference to the matriarchs of the Dathomiri as Giygas pointed out. There is no other reference from any published SW product of any human individual ever living even close to that age. This quote was challenged some time back on Wookiepedia here, asking for an alteration to the article: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Human Actually I physically have this guide: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ultimate_Visual_Guide and in it is a mention of one of the adventures of the original Trilogy era's gang between the films. IIRC between ESB and ROTJ, they (luke and leia) do meet a 200 year old direct descendant of Nomi Sunrider. The article is a mere mention, brief but direct to the piece. However, such an un-detailed account raises several questions about truly how specific this was. As well as original work's published time era. All in all, I'm unsure of its true canon anyways. Regardless, I still support your point that no human through any unassisted or natural means lived even close to 300 years throughout SW. As relates to Revan, I truly do believe it was a sacrifice. That in the end, Revan was brought down as a martyr. Perhaps also was the Exile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatjoshini Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Revan and the Exile could still be alive. As could the rest of the main cast of both KotOR games. They could have plot armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vougalot Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Here's the main reason why Revan cannot - or should not - be alive at the time of The Old Republic: it's a stupid fanboy's fantasy. There. Discussion over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverNight Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 ^^ I think that just shot down all the theories regarding how Revan will still be in TOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan23 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hey, Revan is dead but you will get to meet his apprentice or line of apprentice and hk47.This will bring into the idea of one master and one apprentice. Maybe a holocron or force ghost of revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 ^^^It'd have to be a ghost or a second light sided holocron, as the first one was discovered much later by Darth Bane. As for his training lineage, I suppose Revan started a school of his own in the outer region and there would be remnants or something of it, yes. I can't imagine there wouldn't be sentiments left over from his own war. Here's the main reason why Revan cannot - or should not - be alive at the time of The Old Republic: it's a stupid fanboy's fantasy. QFT. Besides, I can't really even bring myself to download all those Revan mods for TSL--they're not the same person and I think it disrespects the story amd its characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdisco Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Who says they failed? Surely they died in the process but it did take 300 years for the Sith to finally invade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 ^But they had already been in the Unknown Regions for around a thousand years before that, so they probably just brushed Revan off and got back to what they were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I also am wondering if that vision in the Sith Tomb of Revan Actually had some kind of meaning. You had the past twice, you had the present with your crew, and then the final encounter...the future maybe? There has to be some sort of meaning to the last vision. Obviously if the Sith invaded, Revan and Exile didn't stop it. Perhaps also they turned upon each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I also am wondering if that vision in the Sith Tomb of Revan Actually had some kind of meaning. You had the past twice, you had the present with your crew, and then the final encounter...the future maybe? There has to be some sort of meaning to the last vision. Obviously if the Sith invaded, Revan and Exile didn't stop it. Perhaps also they turned upon each other? Well, that vision represented the future. The visions also pitted the Exile against her past and present friends and comrades, and we know she never fought and killed any of them (with the exception of Kreia). So, I find it very possible the Exile encountered Revan in the Unknown Regions. How the encounter went, I have no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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