digl Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Maybe some of you have already seen it, but I dont remember any topic about it here Its simply amazing You need DirectX 8 to see it http://www.farb-rausch.de/fr08_final.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xirion Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 wow pretty kewl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 I heard about this a few weeks ago but haven't seen it until now. That truly was amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 The Product will make me beautiful... The Product will make me popular... The Product will make me understand... The Product will make me believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 and less than 64K, im at a loss to what it actually is though, can someone fill me in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Originally posted by acdcfanbill and less than 64K, im at a loss to what it actually is though, can someone fill me in? same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sarcastic Saint Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Some impressive piece of coding. But what it is all about...well that sort of beats me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 I believe it is something to do with showing off Vertex Textures, or something. I read about this on the Unreal 2 forums a loooong time ago...and, of course, saw the demo. I can't find the thread, though (I think they've deleted a lot of the old stuff), so I can't remember the specific details. They have basically managed to really compress all of the textures using some complicated algorithms. It decompresses everything as it runs, of course...and it is mighty impressive. If someone would only utilise something similar in a game...we probably wouldn't have to undertake massive 800Mb+ installations any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornSoul Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 This is a Demo made by a German Demo group. It's basicly an art form. What they do is make real-time rendered "video clips" usually using 3d. My brother is in one of those groups (The 3rd Foundation). 64k Demo's are made a lot and some look a lot better than this one. There is a complete scene of people who make things like this. They have parties a couple of times a year, with competitions. Denmark has a big party (The Party) coming up around this time I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 thanks for the info Stormhammer & Seryl Cann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowbieOne Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 That was pretty wild. I think what made it so crazy is I didn't know what the heck it was. All that fit in 64k???? AMAZING! Hey Seryl Cann, or anybody else for that matter, where can we get some more demos like this one? That would be cool to see some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornSoul Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 I'll give you a few sites with demos and/or information about the scene. http://www.scene.org (lots of demos) http://www.trebel.org (lots of demos) http://www.t3f.org (demo group) http://www.aardbei.com (demo group) http://www.theparty.dk (demo party) http://www.takeover.nl (demo party) Most of these have links to other demo scene related sites, so you should be able to find a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 1.9 gb in 64kb??? holy crap.. u could get avp2 as 45 kb!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 LOL, that would be pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 yeh think about it if every game was around 20 k and with the big hard drives people have now a days we'd never ever fill it up!!!!!!! 30gb space..... 50x20k games .. !MB for 50 games and u have a hard drive of 30 gb... Amazing... Thatd be good....we'd have millions of games then and almost never run out of space.... jsut liek in my dad's old office they go their first comp with 20mb.. U'll never fill it up... they were pretty god-damn wrong. Also if that happened then floppies would be back in business and make their games much cheaper because ur not buying a cd for the game just a cheap floppy.... then we can copy games for each other and get the jail like i bet soem evil people in here do.. i don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digl Posted December 19, 2001 Author Share Posted December 19, 2001 thanks Seryl Cann Ill take a look at those sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornSoul Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Those demos are nowhere near a game. They aren't even full 3d engines. A 3d games has to have a 3d engine, physics engine, models, sounds, textures, etc. A full 3d game can never be done in 64k, at least not if you want it to look as good as Q3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowbieOne Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Thanks Seryl Cann. This should keep me busy for awhile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 Yes maybe a bit more but it's a compression system. A company could make a much much better system than that... it's the compression that changes the size.. Of course the ordinary game would be about 1 gig or as i was using as an example avp2.. 1.3gb but if it was compressed it would be much much smaller but i can't say becauseit depends on how good the engine is..... i know that 3d engine that they DID use (that was a 3d engine) was quite old and i think it could have been the q2 engine. games today are much more advanced engines so u'd be able to fit in about 50 meg from a 1 gb game if some company invented a great compression system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 AvP2 would still be huge compressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted December 19, 2001 Share Posted December 19, 2001 It looks soooo cool. First thing I thought was wow! could this rival the Q3 engine? But as someone said it is just a demo and not a full game so oh well mabye next time. It's mind boggling that so much could be in just under 64kb"s WOW! Graphically to me it does rival the Q3 engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus4873 Posted December 21, 2001 Share Posted December 21, 2001 I saw this a hile ago and those demos are sweetest things ever invented The .fr08 is one of the best out there. There are many formats of the demos. Some are 64K and others are bigger or smaller. Its kind of like classes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted December 21, 2001 Share Posted December 21, 2001 Originally posted by nykel007 "...It looks soooo cool. First thing I thought was wow! could this rival the Q3 engine?..." "...WOW! Graphically to me it does rival the Q3 engine..." hahaha funny joke. Graphically, Q3 engine is times times better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted December 21, 2001 Share Posted December 21, 2001 It is? Well I won't know I never really liked the Quake series. Toooo... much blood and gore for my taste. I must agree with you though, the Q3 engine is better. It looks like the A5 engine. Check this out, http://www.conitec.net/a4info.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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