MercenaryI{aos Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 So are the NPCs in JK2 going to be the same as in the original or are they going to be useful someway? (I didn't look to hard for a thread on this topic so forgive me if this has already been discussed!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Dont worry, it hasnt been discussed in ages. I think they were suppose to be useful in some way e.g. you could team up with them to help you......and if you dont go round killing innocent people they'll tell you where things are like keys etc.......making it much more difficult if you havent been helping people. We havent had much information on this lately though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroXcape Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 The NPC's are supposed to be very helpful in JKII. In fact, you'll need some to find your way around levels. Some are supposed to also join you in fighting enemies... so it should be pretty exciting to see what Raven has in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 NPCs aren't just people and aliens, they can be droids, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio Warrior Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 *sigh* there goes my droid killin spree i was plannin on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 I'm reminded of this one MOTS mod level that replaced the Sith Zombie models with R2 units, and you were surrounded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 I forgot they could be droids aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio Warrior Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 maybe droids in JK2 will be just as fun to destroy as in JK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Don't forget there's also random civilians to torment! "Are you really a Jedi?" "Gee, I don't know, I got this light saber and all..." wuuuurm wuuuuuurm "Oh, dear, I cut off your head!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 I hope they say more stuff...........but at least they'll have a reason for not likeing kyle..........being a jedi outcast and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoMbER Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 I hope the NPCs in this game will be able to atleast follow you up stairs and through tight areas that you have to crouch to get thu. that bugged the heck out of me when they couldnt do that in half life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio Warrior Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 lol ya i know what ya mean that was pretty annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitloop Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 I just hope the NPC's behave realistically in that they do what you'd expect the average citizen in the Star Wars universe to do in everyday life. I also hope to see some more variety. Depth and atmopshere are what I'm hoping to see most in JKII after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omne Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 I just hope the NPCs seem somewhat real. Like, in JK, whenever I'd sit and watch the people, they didn't seem to have any real purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaberPro Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Supposingly in JKII, NPCs are supposed to be helpful and useful. NPC like droids, or friendly-characters (Jedi or Jan Ors...etc). If you destroy them, you might not complete your mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 I dont remember anyone saying they were that important. Just that they'll be a great help if they think you deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaberPro Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Originally posted by CaptainRAVE I dont remember anyone saying they were that important. Just that they'll be a great help if they think you deserve it. I forgot which article, just remember something said about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Originally posted by Fruitloop I just hope the NPC's behave realistically in that they do what you'd expect the average citizen in the Star Wars universe to do in everyday life. I also hope to see some more variety. Depth and atmopshere are what I'm hoping to see most in JKII after all. Yes, I agree with that. I remember in Half-Life when you walked up to some of the NPC's they were actually doing something - like punching away at a keypad, watching a console, or simply talking to each other. The scientists doing CPR on some of the NPCs was also a nice touch. That added a lot to the atmosphere, and helped to make the situation more believable. [/i]Originally posted by BoMbeR[/i] I hope the NPCs in this game will be able to atleast follow you up stairs and through tight areas that you have to crouch to get thu. that bugged the heck out of me when they couldnt do that in half life. I have to agree with that point too. I found it really annoying when the scientists wouldn't follow me in HL, because they couldn't navigate ladders - or the Barneys simply got stuck and lost their way. The AI in JKII is supposed to be good...so I hope path-finding and navigation of obstacles has been included and thoroughly tested, so all of these little glitches of past games are finally put to rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 I hope they don't get in the way at critical moments, you're taking on this other jedi a R2 droid 'beep, beep' in your path, what you do, what you do....... Then I soppose luke's gonna to be another NPC, he's gonna be a very helpful person in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 I remember reading about Elite Force NPC's ... how your 'ship-mates' couldn't kill a single thing without your help (maybe one or two) ... that was really annoying - you had to find just about everything, kill just about everything. At first it was nice as Chell would say (over here) and actually lead the way. I also had the problem where they would start shooting at me for no apparent reason during a battle ... well, at least THEY didn't kill ME. I just had to load it up again ... In whatever I read, someone from Raven had said that the NPC's would kill everything, so they tried to balance between being useful and too useful. I think JK is different in that you are a 'loner', so they can help plenty without detracting from your mission. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 yes!! in elite force that's annoying when they can't kill anything that's an enemy, yet when u kill just ONE of them, they all kill you in less than 5 seconds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio Warrior Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 that was pretty funny though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 ya, i've never tried to see if i could kill them all, wait i did, once ,but i ran out of ammo to the gun (forgot its name) o wait, compression rifle. i was firing secondary fire at everyone cause they kept ticking me off! lol then i get 'killed' and find myself in the brig! hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio Warrior Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 i attempted to kill them all with god mode but somehow they still managed to kill me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercenaryI{aos Posted January 21, 2002 Author Share Posted January 21, 2002 I hated in Jedi Knight civilians would walk right into the path of fire and the only thing they did was when you walked up to them thety'd say "Stop it!" and run off. I liked the odd moment in JK that an NPC that was non-helpful would say something different such as "Get out of my bar, you always cause trouble" or " Do you have to shoot paying customers?" It would nice if even non-helpful NPCs say add more variety to their speech to make it more atmospheric. BTW, on Elite Force I would kill a guy like Oviedo and wait at the door and kill everyone with the Grenade Launcher:D but then again they always overwhelmed me or my killing spree 'timed out' and I found myself in the Brig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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