Rogue15 Posted February 16, 2002 Share Posted February 16, 2002 Now works on my computer, thanks to Krkode for telling me to upgrade my drivers for starfighter. Starfighter still doesn't work, but Force Commander does! I know not many people like Force Commander and the camera isn't for them, etc. It fits my play style near-perfect, and i love the maps and skirmishes and story and everything else about it. Mostly the being able to zoom in on your units, give them names, keep them throughout the game...and I love the music. To me, when i first played this game, it felt like playing a strategy game with Rogue Squadron-like graphics. VERY FUN. (for me anyways) It may not be 'the best' to the average person, but to me, force commander is my favorite strategy game. *goes back to start the first level* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilleApplePie Posted February 16, 2002 Share Posted February 16, 2002 Good for you! ^_^ If I liked strategy games...I'd check it out...-_-;; My brain refuses to work that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithcloak Posted February 16, 2002 Share Posted February 16, 2002 You think its quite good? I might want to try downloading the demo again. Last time it said it was corrupt! Sithcloak P.S. I downloaded the Starfighter demo. It is quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Antilles Posted February 16, 2002 Share Posted February 16, 2002 The game was fun until it started to crash on part two of crisis of Sarapin. The game did teach me about 3D cards. Still it was a cool game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted February 16, 2002 Share Posted February 16, 2002 Can you believe it runs on the same engine as JK/MotS? What were they thinking/drinking/smoking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagobahn Eagle Posted February 16, 2002 Share Posted February 16, 2002 I personally did not like it, not because of the camera, but because of all the micromanagement, etc. Also, although the story was good in a way, the missions were pretty little varied. It's basically build some imperial bases, defect, destroy them, and destroy DS ii and capture Coruscant. The infiltrators were kind off cool, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted February 17, 2002 Author Share Posted February 17, 2002 My favorite part of it is the Multiplayer. That's where it's at. I like gb just as much as this game, I prefer force commander's graphics and camera more tho... rhett, r u sure that's the mots engine???! I remember a while back Pedro said something about it...hmmm I must get the Geforce 2 graphics card. Must spend $70 for it since I don't have a credit card, and my parents don't like using credit cards... o well, at least I'll have $100+ left over in my savings. And I'll be able to run jedi knight II with no troubles, force commander at probably maximum (i can already run it in the highest setting, i just take the weather effects off...) I hope it's easy to install...it's just a pci card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted February 17, 2002 Share Posted February 17, 2002 I thought they said they had to create an entirely new engine for the game and that is why they released it too early (a release date set in stone is doom) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted February 17, 2002 Share Posted February 17, 2002 Believe it or not, Force Commander is running on a modified MotS engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted February 17, 2002 Author Share Posted February 17, 2002 so THAT'S why i like mots better than jedi knight?? and why people don't like mots as much as jedi knight.....it's a conspiracy!!! AAAAHHH!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilleApplePie Posted February 17, 2002 Share Posted February 17, 2002 Good luck on installing the video card without a hitch...I recently installed a new video card and although I can run Alice now...it's jumpy and my computer is really f'ed up...x_x messing with drivers is a nasty nasty thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaming Nut Posted February 17, 2002 Share Posted February 17, 2002 I have quite few 3d games and comapred to them Force Commanders graphics are total crap and it's camreas alot harder to use. Force Commander SHOULD'NT be used as a piont of Refrrance for 3D RTS games. You should try another before saying your barin dosen't work like that or 3D sucks. It really dosen't look that good and got slamed by every reweing site I looked at they've never been wrong before and I won't risk it now. It even won awards as most disspionting game of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted February 17, 2002 Author Share Posted February 17, 2002 like i said, only certain people will love force commander. Nobody really gave Force Commander a chance, imo. I doubt any of the reviewers actually beat the game, or mastered the camera, or even used the multiplayer. I probably wouldn't be playing force commander if it wasn't star wars tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted February 17, 2002 Author Share Posted February 17, 2002 woohoo!!!! this is so cool!!! all your lives are in my hands now! mwahahhahahaa I have all the mods names on AT-PTs, and the members as stormtroopers!!! hehehehe Rogue Nine is in an AT-ST tho. Gunner has the highest rank, and is in an AT-PT, i had to take him out of battle, cause he had like 20 hit points left b4 he blew. Ike's in an at-pt, had to take him out of battle, and darth fergie same as ike. Sorry, Rhett, you, darth fergie, and ike were caught in an ambush of grenade troops, and well...you didn't make it. Well, I'll have to restart that scenario cause i was taskswitched, and i went back in, saw a black screen, freaked, pressed alt control delete, and well...right b4 it restarted it came up... oh i also found out i don't need to repurchase force commander to do a lan game. Just gotta use disk 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evaders99 Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 Wow, the MOTS engine? No wonder its so darn slow... If it only loaded faster, I would play it more. Honestly, the reviews hurt it bad. Many just trash it, call it junk without ever playing it. But honestly it is a good RTS game, Star Wars much more. It hurt because it required a good system and graphics card (well, at the time) and the 3D controls weren't too good. Made it more like a sim. But, I play it like a 2D from the top most every level. The screenshots you can get from it are amazing. Plus, it isn't AOE. The Empire and the Rebels are distinctly different in playing style and units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherack Nhar Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 Whoa. So many things to say in that thread. 1st: Rogue15...You can't say that Force Commander is good because it fits your play style. You can't... There are some unacceptable faults with the game. The fact that it uses a modified JK engine, the countless bugs (of which you described one above), the laggyness of the camera, and the BAD pathfinding! These faults will always remain so, whatever your play style is... 2nd: Yes, FoCom does use a heavily modified JK engine, just like Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine. Hence the sluggish camera and the very bad graphics. Hell, I found Rogue Squadron to be better than that! 3rd: Not really about FoCom, but it was a topic in the thread: About the Geforce 2. First, it's AGPm not PCI. If you find a gf2 PCI, do not buy it, as it's more likely to decrease your system stability and some games (like Half Life) will only use your AGP card. Believe me, as someone who come from the Voodoo2 era, I say PCI is EVIL! 4th: Yeah, AGP cards are easy to install. Just replace your current one, and if your version of Windows is recent enough, it'll install the drivers for you. If not, just go to http://www.nvidia.com (in the case of a geforce card) and get the latest Detonator drivers for your OS. That's all for now... I'll check back to see if I have something more to add later! Oh, and MotS R0X00RZ!!!!!111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted February 20, 2002 Author Share Posted February 20, 2002 you're right about the good screenshots: as for agp card. I WISH. I don't have an AGP slot....don't wanna bug my parents to death about getting a new motherboard, cause well...that's none of your biz. and on top of THAT, they're trying to get their credit card payed off, so I can't buy online.... I'm not going to stick with this intel 810e ****set for the rest of my youth. Any other suggestions for pci graphics card, or is there a way to install an agp slot on the existing motherboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted February 20, 2002 Author Share Posted February 20, 2002 Originally posted by Sherack Nhar Whoa. So many things to say in that thread. 1st: Rogue15...You can't say that Force Commander is good because it fits your play style. You can't... There are some unacceptable faults with the game. The fact that it uses a modified JK engine, the countless bugs (of which you described one above), the laggyness of the camera, and the BAD pathfinding! These faults will always remain so, whatever your play style is... To me, the good outweighed the bad in force commander. I'll name everything I like about it: Camera (it doesn't lag for me, and I really enjoy using it) Command Point System, i like it alot, it makes u want to keep your units alive, especially in mp, cause if the units get destroyed, the enemy gets some cps! Hangar Bay-I love being able to take my units with me from mission to mission. Naming units: i get the most fun out of this in the campaigns. and it's cool how they can be taken to the next level Landing Crafts, now this is one of my favorite things about the game. You get landing crafts to land troops, walkers, and buildings down. It's SO much more realistic than in gb where they just come out of a building like they lived their whole darn lives there. Taking over enemy buildings by throwing stormtroopers in them. The list goes on and on. ya there are so bad things too, but not so much that i want to scream something bad....here's a list of some things i found bad: pathfinding system, sometimes the enemy just goes in circles like a complete idiot. i remember once it made me kinda ticked and i said 'hmmm must've been dui' and i clicked on it and pressed 'Delete'. 'we're bantha fodder sir!' darn right! Command point draining when u have so many units. Not enough skirmish maps... That's all i can think of. The ai seems so much better when u play against 3 other computer players, in an ffa. edit: ya, and i liked the fact that both sides were unique. Like the rebels could only get shields. unless the empire took the shield generator over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherack Nhar Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 Erm...as far as I know, the i810 chipset does include AGP... are 100% sure of what you are saying? And yes, all the points you mentionned are indeed great. Naming units, and the command point system, it's innovative. But the command point system is very unbalanced, as it is very difficult to recover from a failed assault you commanded in multiplayer, since the enemy gained command points and you lost many. Basically, as soon as someone is losing, he'll be losing even more badly as time goes on, until he reaches a certain point of no return, where the other player can finish him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted February 21, 2002 Author Share Posted February 21, 2002 btw, my computer is a Compaq Presario. I asked the guy that put in the ethernet card or whatever so i can have cable if my computer had an agp and he said it didn't. s'why i gotta have a pci card....kinda sucks....but o well... I've been thinking about a future career, and I think building computers specifically for gaming would be fun...my first customer would be myself! lol a few more bad points in force commander: there's not many strategies to use...and you can't land buildings and units away from your command center.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilleApplePie Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 me thinks you're gonna have to have something else to do besides just build computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphi's Clone Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 Hey one more good thing about FOCOM You can put Delphi on stormtroopers names and command them to there death ;D. Hope you enjoy that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 *reinstalls Force Commander* Joking, DC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted February 21, 2002 Share Posted February 21, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue15 Sorry, Rhett, you, darth fergie, and ike were caught in an ambush of grenade troops, and well...you didn't make it. I died!?!?!?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! The great Fergie never dies!!!!! I know...I ejected from the AT-PT and took out my lightsaber and killed off the foolish troopers right??? PLEASE TELL ME I'M RIGHT!!! (they need to remake FOCOM on a solid engine...RPG elements are too cool) Next time make sure you don't slaughter mods like that...OR WE'LL BAN YOU!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhuf Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 I also reinstalled Focom recently. I really enjoy it. I think having faster hardware makes it play a lot better than it did back a few years ago. I think a lot of the negative reviews really missed the point of this game, unfortunately. I don't think most of the reviewers gained any expertise needed to really enjoy the game. FoCom can be fast-paced, has has a lot of tactical play. A lot of fun. The game isn't won by sheer swarming (although concentration of fire helps). But it is won especially by territorial control and by how well you use infantry and mixed unit force structures. Gotta love it. Seriously, if anyone is interested in multiplayer focom (I can't find anyone who actually plays it on zone), please drop me an e-mail . Also, if anyone knows of an active FoCom Forum online, please let me know the URL, since I'd like to find FoCom multiplayer fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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