DigitalVapor Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Qel, I was just about to say that. I just bought starfighter and as much as I love that I can add the box to my collection of starwars PC boxes, I found it to be ridiculous that they had that big box and all that was inside was a little jewel case. Personaly I love the DVD cases. I plan on buying a bunch of em and replacing all my cd cases with the new ones. But alas, JO will be in the big ol box as is the custom for LEC. I have seen 2 pics of the box and they are both the big classic style box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toms Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 hmm... in the uk Battlegrounds and Starfighter are in plastic dvd-style cases..... they are very handy, space wise, but i think the mini-boxes are a better balance of size/coolness... of course, if they made a DECENT space game again they might need more space for the manual.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniKorn Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 I'd really prefer the dvd boxes. EF came in a cd case, EF Expansion came in a DVD case, which actually sucked because the EF cd case looks pretty stupid right now. MOH:AA, RTCW, Black & White and some others I have are in DVD Cases as well. I really like the way they look so I'd rather have the industry follow 1 STANDARD. I have a lot of the big boxes of my older games, but all they are doing is : gathering dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediArs Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 I was just curious about that. And yes, I am chillin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 This is an interesting topic ... even if I do instantly pitch the box, whetever the size ;-) I quick scanned this thread and had no interest until I was at the Mall yesterday doing a couple of things and then stopped in at CompUSA ... in the games section, they have started to have some DVD-style cases ... boy was I surprised! I thought that was just a Europe thing! I think it was mainly the new Mac games, but it struck me nonetheless. I had been thinking of the comparison of the MoH:AA and RtCW boxes, not about a DVD box. I like the plastic sleeves my JK & MotS came in, so I'd have no problem with a DVD case, as I'd likely just put it in a sleeve holder anyway. But I understand the people who like the big ol' boxes ... just like I understood those lamented the loss of 'cover art' when Records changed to CD's ... but, like music, *I* don't buy the game for the pretty picture on the cover (which, as I mentioned, I pitch anyway!) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 I like the DVD-style cases. There's enough room for some decent artwork. They may take up a little more space than the CD cases I usually put there...but the box isn't gathering dust either, and I don't need extra shelf space for all the manuals, which usually fit snugly inside. So it balances out. Of course, with 50+ games (and expansion disks and manuals) on the shelves of my PC cabinet, it's starting to get a little cramped... It's reminiscent of Harry Harrison's Make Room! Make Room! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoosh Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 I really hope JKII comes in a DVD case. They are so much more durable than the jewel cases and as stated before, allow for the manual to be inside the case, not the box. Swoosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3onheart Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 I also really hope that they come in the new DVD-style boxes. All those big cardboard boxes do is gather dust. What are those miniboxes you guys are talking about? can anyonde direct me to a photo or something of one? cuz i have no idea what boxes are those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoosh Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 For info on the new smaller box-size standard, check out this page: Gamespot news on the box Hope this helps with the confusion. Swoosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 One thing to consider is that depending on the game, a large manual may be necessary or desired. How easily could a DVD-type case accomodate such a requirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Krayt Tion Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 Well, it has been my experience that the game manuals shipping in the big boxes almost never take advantage of that extra room, usually being not much bigger than a DVD case to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoosh Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 Blah, just sell the big manual as a game guide =). Make some money out of it too...I'm sure the publishers would like that. Swoosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 This brings something else to mind. last night I received my SB Audigy Gamer sound card. The box is huge and the only thing in it is the card and manual and a few CD's. Not only do CD's come in over sized boxes so does all PC hardware. Hmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Serious Sam: The Second Encounter came in a small box like the recent EA games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3onheart Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 I just saw those miniboxes (thanks Swoosh) and I prefer the DVD cases. I think DVD casing is the standard in Europe (atleast here in Portugal it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps2maddenman Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 They'll probably produce the game in the big box at first, then switch to the smaller size (Walmart version) for later production runs. I don't care as the box will be stored away as soon as I get the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Speaking for myself, I'd rather have the manual come with the game when I purchase it, not something else I have to buy in addition to the game. I'm not talking about a hint guide, but rather a "how do I play this freaking game" manual. If such a manual can fit in the DVD-type box, then I'm cool with it. But I agree, that much of the space inside the boxes is wasted. The trick is to find the right balance that is not wasteful, yet meets the consumer's requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanZ Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 I think now days manuals can just be part of the readme on the CD. Who actually takes the time to decipher through every page of a boring colorless manual anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Um, I do I always read through the manual while the game is installing. I've played games that had features I didn't know about because I didn't read the manual. You read it, you may learn something. I prefer a printed manual that I can reference while playing in addition to a copy of one on the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargon Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Originally posted by Vagabond One thing to consider is that depending on the game, a large manual may be necessary or desired. How easily could a DVD-type case accomodate such a requirement? Most DVD'some with pamphlets tellin gyou to buy other DVD's from that movie company, they should already have the little holders for it. With a game like JO, the manula wont be thicker than the case anyways so it should be easy to accomodate. Personally I hope it doesn't come in a DVD case, as my cd rack has open slots and my DVD rack does not.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 I agree, Jedi Outcast probably won't have a very big manual. But games like Master of Orion 3, Civilization III, Diablo 2, etc - primarily strategy-type games - they typically have and require large manuals - more like books. I mean, maybe they could do a hybrid approach and just slightly increase the box size if they need to accomodate the manual, but the basic principle of the DVD cases is good. I just kind of hate it when I get this skimpy 3 page manual with my $50 game. It's like, jeez, couldn't you afford give me some decent bathroom reading material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargon Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Hybrid would be so EXPENSIVE, i mean, not buying premanufactured stuff is not a good idea when buying in large quantities, it would prolly make them charge ~$70 for Jedi Outcast...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toms Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 and there have been some games that have had really cool manuals... ones that fitted into the game. Skynet - full of newspaper articles refering to developments at cyberdyne systems that were'nt essential to the game, but added to the backgroud story a lot. interstate 76 - same thing, backgroud story and articles, full stats on vehicles and weapons, tips (written by a game character), hand written notes and corrections over the typed text added style. tie-fighter... at least 3 manuals, a control card, pilots guide, ship guide, manual and more i think... JK had a pretty coolmanual too... nice pictures and stuff. i HATE these pdf manuals... gicvve you a headache and make it impossible to check stuff when playing. hopefully JKO will have a cool manual with nice background story info (NRI reports, emails to kyle etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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