Haxaty Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Eek! We already got one murderer around here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 This is interesting... How do you define "murder"? The first in the Sally Lockhart searis by Philip Pullman begins with saying that Sally's about to kill a man, before describing her putting a gun in her bag and climbing the stairs to an apartement. On getting there, she has a brief conversation with a man... then she mentions a name of someone, and this causes the man to, rather inconviniently, have a heart attack. Ofcourse, we could go further. By not stopping someone in the street and asking for directions, we didn't make them late, and had they been, they would'nt have been run over five minutes later. Indeed, we could go further still, but I'll leave that up to your imagniations (plus I can't be bothered to type out any more examples). It's a bit like the old "if you go back in time, don't touch anything". Thus, we are all murderers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sopabuena Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 This is my story (not really!): I Saw a space alien at night. It was walking around in the street so I ran it over with a car. When I went to see if it was dead it was not really a space alien itwas STeve the neighbor that always mows his lawn. I thought steve was a space alien that is why i ran him over. That was worse than the time I hit him with the baseball bat in his garagebecause I thought he was the serial killer bandit caper that I saw on TV. I went to the store and I broke all the stereos and then I punched the man that saw me so that Iwould not get in trouble. Today it was a special treat to see a bus crash with fire. It was the best even better than when I won and said FART FART on the radio really loud!! Haha !!GO ROBOT RON !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 I think we're talking first-hand murder here. Taking an ice-pick and then -stab- "take that, you bastard" -stab- "and that" -stab- "and that, too" -stab- "that as well" -stab- -stab- -stab-... I assumed that breeding inside a human to ensure the survival of the Alien kind does not count as murder, therefore "No". Shutt, you're a chauvinisitic asshole. What about women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flirbnic Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Would procreating be killing as well? As a result of creating a life, you also create a death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Yes... this IS interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xo3k Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 I think what is most interesting is that we have a test here to root out pathological liars. We have a very simple question that, with quips and musings aside, should be rather easy to understand. and being that an actual murderer would be foolish to post that he had murdered, you are left with the rest of the populous who hasn’t murdered. we already have three false claims. But the real question is are they pathological liars (given the opportunity to lie with no repercussions they prefer to lie) or is it that we have people with heavy conscience who feel they are guilty even though they couldn’t be (finding excuses in the possibility that they could commit an act that, while not overt, would lead to the death of a person). "Very educatinal!" -Kintaro (Golden Boy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnn Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 I answered 'Yes', but I don't recall killing anyone. How do you analyze that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flirbnic Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Perhaps it has something to do with the chaos theory. A butterfly flapping its wings in China could ultimately result in a hurricane in the Atlantic Ocean. Any of your actions that you have made in your life may have ultimately resulted in someone dying earlier than they would have if you had not made such an action. However, since it might be impossible to determine if one of your actions did result in someone's death through chaos theory, you can't be entirely sure if you have truly killed someone, and answering 'no' on this poll would merely be a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crocodilic Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Equally however the same butterfly could be preventing a Hurricane. and the definition of a Hurrucane is one thats formed in some little gulf just outside of america, so it wouldnt be in the Atlantic anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffage Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 i maybe killed someone, but i cant be certian, mght have died might not have died... on another totally other subject nothing to do with the subject of killing men, no sery.. is remi still alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnn Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 Someone asked to close this topic because it's 'sick stuff'. Let's vote on it: Close the dead topic, or Not close the dead topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raVen_image Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 I would hardly call it "Sick" ... silly, perhaps. Close it, if you must, but please don't delete it. At least keep the replies from, Flirbnic and xo3k, which, at the very least, say something interesting amid the rest of the drek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 HEY! Nice use of the word "drek", though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiKo Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 you'll never manage to proove i did it!!! and even if you do...i'll....i'll KILL YOU!! no no, i dont mean that...hahahah, i wouldnt kill any of you, cause i'm not a killer, oh no not me...nope.... OKAY OKAY SO I DID IT!! but he was aking for it!! i....i wasnt sane at the time, you....you gotta balieve me!! it wasnt me... so what if i said it WAS me, it really wasnt!! stop looking at me..... stop looking at me or i'll kill you!!!!..... okay, this conversation never happened!.... *slips a dollar bill in everyones pocket...and a mint in ravens* well.....that was the most idiotic post i've ever made... and its my first one on this board... yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjølen Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 1 - Welcome to the board, Niko? 2 - It seems that RaVen posts a LOT shorter posts here than on my forum. 3 - No, I've never killed a human being. It's evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 I have never killed a man. However, I have choked several chickens. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjølen Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Not to mention all those chickens lost in that Chicken Shooting game Griswold made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raVen_image Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Originally posted by Kjølen ...2 - It seems that RaVen posts a LOT shorter posts here than on my forum. Do you have attention-span issues ... or English language issues? Don't go to our message board, then. In this thread we disassemble quantum physics ...take it down to murder ...take it up to god ...and evolution ... and US law ...and so on. There are a lot of words ... so, if you do attempt to read it ... take it slow. Also: note the lack of silly graphics and avatars. We like to fill our space with words and concepts, instead. 3 - No, I've never killed a human being. It's evil. [/b] Why? Can you define "evil"? I can name at least 100 virtuous men that have murdered someone. Some do it in the name of Religion ... some, in the name of War ... some, in the name of The LAW. To say that "murder is evil" is to say that your god is evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallus Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 But are "to murder" and "to kill" really that interchangeable? Granted, as actions, to murder is the same as to kill. The words have very different connotative meanings, however. Most people usually wouldn't say that they just murdered a trail of ants that managed to sneak in from under the floorboards. Would a god really "murder" anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raVen_image Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 This is an excellent point. "Murder" is a legal term. It only has meaning in a legal context ... which this is not. My mistake. So, let's take the word back to "kill", which I will define as: The purposeful ending of a life..."--no poetic meanings ...no accidental ... no judgement call. I mean deliberately and thoroughly stopping the life of another. Now, my original question stands: How can you justify covering the act of killing another human with the blanket term of 'evil'? Or, in simpler terms, how do you define "evil"? You need only read the bible to have evidence of god's penchant for killing humans. The tribe that wrote the old testiment were JUSTIFIED, by god, in killing thousands. Where lies "evil" in all that killing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffage Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 yes, i have killed over a thousand people, all for my enjoyment aswell! If you don't believe me, here is my kill count, yes that record it kept up to date! Riff's Kill Count NOW BEWARE THE RIFF OR FACE MY SNIPER RIFLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Dan Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Interesting post. What is evil? If the concept of evil is a human invention, evil is simply a relative term. Evil is based upon what we are taught is evil. Most of this comes is passed down through Western Civilization... and this comes from, you guessed it, the Bible. So, the Bible teaches that people like are evil, but what really is evil? The world may never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuzwuzza Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Originally posted by Emperor Dan What is evil? Spandex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Apparently... Evil is when you cause suffering and good is when you prevent it. If you're going to kill someone because it will ultimately cause less suffering, this is a good act, since even though you caused some suffering the absence of suffering later out balances this. Well, something along those lines anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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