Kylilin Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 If you don't want to read any spoilers don't scroll down . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . When Anakin rescues his mother from the tusken raiders, she says something to him that made me think twice. I forget the exact line, but it is something to the effect of: "My job is done" or something like that. If anyone knows or remebers the exact line I am talking about, please post it. Anyways, it made me think, did she purposely get herself abducted by the tuskens? Cliegg Lars stated that she would probably be dead by the time Anakin got there, but she held on just long enough so she could die in his arms, knowing he would be enraged. Was it Palpatine that was responsible for Anakins nightmares about his mothers pain and suffering? knowing that he would have to go to Tatooine and try to rescue her, so she could die, and the pain he felt would bring him closer to the dark side. who knows, I am just speculating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 She says "Now I am complete." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr. Cracken Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 More likely, it was teh Tuskens hired by Palpatine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 IT was a random crime. read the novel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 No No No No it wasnt set up by palpatine. in Ep1 anakin also said that he had dreams about being a jedi and dreams about freeing slaves. and now he had dreams about his mother. it was a random thing as the eveil Nute has said already But the the battle thing was set up by him. cause in a legal sence he took complete power over the republic, but he had made BOTH armies. that is what is so weird. Jango Fett cloned himself for the republics army. and he was the help of Dooku for the droid armies. weird hah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylilin Posted May 17, 2002 Author Share Posted May 17, 2002 relax fellas, it's called speculation for a reason. But still, I think it goes a lot to the whole Anakin wasn't immaculately conceived theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle d'Tana Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 In this time palpatine wasn't a sith master! In the next ep he will become one.... so palpatine wanna have more and more force, but he isn't a sith yet. so he can't be responsibel for this...... I think so! Other possibilities?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 uhmmm Kylle.. i dont want to burst you bubble... but who do you think Dath Sidious is??? that is Palpatine... he is the Sith Lord Darth Sidious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle d'Tana Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Well, isn't it only the same actor? I mean how can he change his face from old and ugly(Palpatine) to much older and much uglier(Sidious)??? I can't understand this. I know, that in a book, (anywhere in the Thrawn trilogie), luke finds out, that the clone of Jorus C'baoth, teached Senator Palpatine using the force.... whats about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkshake Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 Erm, I think AOTC, what with the cloners and stuff pretty much killed the thrawn trilogy. I don't know about Sidious being uglyer (Yet) it's not as if we've seen his face in TPM or AOTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Tycho Posted May 27, 2002 Share Posted May 27, 2002 Erf Kyle: First, learn how to write properly! Weird language. Second, read the frikkin books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted May 27, 2002 Share Posted May 27, 2002 Someone needs a spell-checker. Palpatine is able to immerse himself a lot more into the dark side after he's eliminated the Jedi. So therefore he ends up looking like that when he takes on the role of Emperor. He has no reason to hide the dark side flowing though him anymore. No more blasted Senate to work around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_Kinnison Posted May 27, 2002 Share Posted May 27, 2002 if you notice, Palapitine does not lookthat great to begin with in AOTC. bags under the eyes. you can see the change coming. also, the givaway is compare Sidedous and Palapitines chin and nose. they are the same. I fully belive Palapitine has some influance in Shimis capture by sandpeople. Why would Sandpeople bother keeping her alive for a month? unless someone was controlling them. Sandpeople are Xenophobs, and have no problem killing on site of a bared face. think about it.... shimi gets captured, and that starts bothing Anakin. Knowing the relationship Obi and anakin have iwth Padme, he allows an attempted assasination to get Obi and anni closer to her. Second assasination attempt points to kinmono... with the help of jango. THen anakin and Obi split wich allows Anakin the freedom to go to tatooine. Find his mother, and after her death get tempted by the dark side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 I tend to agree with the idea that Palpatine had some influence in Shmi's capture and her being allowed to live until the moment Anakin arrived. If he wanted Anakin to snap...well...it worked beautifully. We know that Anakin has been confiding in Palpatine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 No, I think it's all just coincidence. (Or perhaps careful plot scripting...) Sidious has an apprentice, Dooku/ Tyrannus. He can't take Anakin on yet until Dooku's destroyed. But it might just be in the back of his mind... but he really can't have any idea that Skywalker is likely to turn towards the dark side yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Palpatine has been most intelligent in the use of completely random things or coming up with plans on the fly. Shmi's death was a random event that he'll just take advantage of. Plus the Tusken Raiders were keeping her alive as bait. They wanted to kill more moisture farmers and they knew as long as the humans didn't know for a fact that she was dead, they'd keep looking for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Either way makes sense to me, I suppose. You can give a convincing argument for both. Nute's got a good point about the "bait" thingy. *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 I agree with Nute. Also the "Now I'm complete" line is obvious that she felt her life as complete now that she saw Anakin for the last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_Kinnison Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 "I... love-.... I... love- *gasp*" Bad enuf she had to stay alive, now she gets anakin to feel guilty too. Selfish B**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 I just thought that whole scene was pure cheesecake. Blah. Hayden Christensen can't act very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierce Posted May 30, 2002 Share Posted May 30, 2002 Hayden has a very dry personality anyway, so i didn't expect him to do well acting emotional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Tycho Posted May 30, 2002 Share Posted May 30, 2002 Hayden Christensen doesn't have any acting experience. Well, maybe just a little, but it doesn't show up in his dialogues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted May 30, 2002 Share Posted May 30, 2002 Jake Lloyd for Anakin all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Well I just came back from watching Episode 2 in the French Military base theatre. I'm not sure what is the exact word that I should use to describe my opinion of the movie but the fact is I didn't really like it but that doesn't mean I hated it. I think I was experiencing bordom during about 90% of the movie. Now here are the little things: Thing I loved: The fact that they made Jar-Jar shut the f**k up. Thing I hated: The Romance that almost totally killed the movie, it had me desprately bored. Thing that made me laugh: When Yoda was saber fighting. Thing I regretted: I wanted to see Anakin kill all those tuskin raiders who captured his mother. When he exited the tent I went from a layed back careless sitting position to a concerned and interested one and I said to myself "This should be good" but nothing happened. Thing I noticed: There were lots of "copied" stuff in the movie. For instance the Carryalls from Dune and The Federation ships that resssembled too much those ships used in Mechwarrior 2 for transporting Mechs. I also noticed how the scene were the small Jedi Army rush towards the droids in the arena was almost exactly the same from the fan made trailer of Episode 1 using the Braveheart battle scene (with William Wallace's men all equiped with sabers...). I initially thought that scene would be awesome but it wasn't really cool. Finally I still do not accept the Title and if George Lucas really wanted something with the word Clone it could have been: Star Wars Episode II: The Clone Army. That already sounds better than "Attack of the Clones". By the way, I won't comment on the sound because I saw it in Stereo. I also had to see it in French and these following translations have always annoyed me: English ==> French Darth ==> Dark Sith ==> Site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Tycho Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Originally posted by Jem Finally I still do not accept the Title and if George Lucas really wanted something with the word Clone it could have been: Star Wars Episode II: The Clone Army. That already sounds better than "Attack of the Clones". Well, The Clone Army, doesn't sound right either. The whole movie wasn't based on a Clone Army. The whole battle lasted only like 7 minutes as to opposed the whole 2 hour movie. Episode 2: Birth of a Jedi sounds okay because Anakin realizes his Jedi responsiblities. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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