wily888 Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 I just watched LOTR again on DVD and I have been wondering the two following things: 1. Why was the bridge in Moria so freakin' small and dangerous? Had the dwarves not discovered handrails? 2. Why doesn't Elrond just have the eagles fly Frodo to Mount Doom, drop off the ring and fly back? It would have saved time and energy. The eagles obviously had the resources do help out the good guys when they saved everyone at the end of Return of the King. If there is a logical explanation to either of these questions I would be happy to hear it. If anyone has any theories please share them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 i think i remember seeing/reading/hearing somewhere that the eagles refused to go over towards mount doom on account of it being dangerous, however, if they get rescued from mount doom (the fellowship) by the eagles, it may be because the eagles worked up their courage/knew it was a LOT less dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wily888 Posted August 27, 2002 Author Share Posted August 27, 2002 That is true... however, they could at least drop him off at Cirith Ungol and save them all that trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit fisto JK Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 acccctualy I watched the return of the king animated movie and it wasnt just the fellowship that got saved by the egales it was an entire army + when I saw it I was wondering wheres legolas and gimli??? did they leave the fellowship in TT??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Jedi Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 I know an answer to both. 1. The dangerous bridge added to the tension of the movie. Its an action-adventure, and without some added tension here and there, the movie would get boring. 2. If the eagles did that, the whole movie trilogy would have been an hour long. Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[RAA]-=Chi3f=- Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 1) The dwarves made the bridge that way on purpose to keep people out. It was intended as an escape rout only. 2) Nobody wanted to expose the ring in the open. If the Eagles flew the Fellowship, the flying Nazgul could have easily stopped them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 You must remember that during the times before Sauron grew strong in the Second Age, the gates at either end of the Mines of Moria were always open, so there was no real need for escape routes etc. The Bridge of Khazad Dum is more of an escape route, especially when it is over a pit that where the Balrog lies. I agree with Cheif, the Nazgul would easily spot the eagles, plus it would make for a short film. Also, Sauron would think of the easiest way for the fellowship to get the ring back there, so to make it less conspicuous,etc allows them to slip through the cracks. Sometimes a full on assault is not the best idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 1) The small bridge was a part of the defense system, for the enemies of the dwarves could only pass there in a single file. 2) Too dangerous, I guess, for the eagles to do such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 well if they had the eagle to get rid of the rind, why do they even bother with the hobbits,. the only reason gandalf had Frodo to carrie the ring because, the hobbits are small and insignificant, and have little ambitions so they are harder to corrupt, who knows if you give the ring directly to the eagles, they may be corrupted.....even gandalf was afraid to wield it remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal_da_Darth Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 I was gonna get the DVD but my mom wouldn't let me (Yes, I'm only 15) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 why isn't there a big "SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER" in the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 A more appropriate first response to the questions is READ THE BOOK.... How can there be spoilers if there is a book that the movie is directly based upon, that has been out for an extremely long time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 There are some very good explanations 'round here. Chief's is the best for the bridge and thehomicidalegg's explanation for the eagles is very well put, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 If you really want answers to all these questions and have a good understanding of what is going on, then actually read the books...all will be made clear...just stop complaining about it here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 you know, like some people DIDN'T read the books YET, or haven't seen the movies, but soon are going to see, you are spoiling all the fun, especialy when you start about book II and III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Spirit Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 Originally posted by wily888 I just watched LOTR again on DVD and I have been wondering the two following things: 1. Why was the bridge in Moria so freakin' small and dangerous? Had the dwarves not discovered handrails? 2. Why doesn't Elrond just have the eagles fly Frodo to Mount Doom, drop off the ring and fly back? It would have saved time and energy. The eagles obviously had the resources do help out the good guys when they saved everyone at the end of Return of the King. If there is a logical explanation to either of these questions I would be happy to hear it. If anyone has any theories please share them. 1. You have to remember that this bridge hasnt been used in ages....like centuries or something. with the gang of goblins and orcs and so on going over the bridge i assume its got worn down over the time and they dont have the skill to repair the bridge. It also may have been damaged a lot in an attack on Moria 2. In the books it described the eagles as very grand and so on. they never liked doing favours for 'lesser' beings and they consider themselves as kings among other species....this is why they only help out in extreme conditions. they may not have realised how extreme the present condition was and just labelled it as the business of 'lessers.' I suppose the main reason for not using eagles is that the mission had to be done as stealthily as possinble and the eagles could be seen easily if they fly too low and the nazgul would see them if they flew anywhere...and im sure sauron might spot them. thats why only 9 people were able to go on the mission - they would be very hard to spot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckcsaber Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 How could you just fly into the land of Morder? The eye is everwatchful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 50% of the ppl who watched the movie has read the book , so it isnt really made as an 'action thriller' or anything, it was made cuz it was there to be made, ... ... and the previous effort was ...*shudders* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 When Tolkien was still alive, 20th Century Fox was interested in making a live-action version of the trillogy. They showed the script to Tolkien to get approval... and Tolkien hated the script. This movie was to be the entire trillogy compressed into one, and to shorten it up, the scriptwriter gave the Fellowship Eagles to take them to Mordor... this was one of the changes that Tolkien really hated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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