Toonces Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 Since I sorta made a mess in the Qui-Gon thread with one of my side projects (It's not a side project anymore) KMan asked me to start a new thread. Anyway, for those who haven't seen it yet http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/genq3/mace-fin.jpg http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/mace1.jpg http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/mace2.jpg http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/mace3.jpg http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/mace4.jpg http://www.drivingcatstudios.com/images/mace5.jpg I'm still tweaking the geometry, Arco is doing the skin
Sam Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 The eyes are a bit weird but everything else looks good.
Professor Snape Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 aight good. Now we will see the qui gon and this. Are u gonna make a thread for obi wan
MysticSpade Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 hey toonces i actually think the eyes are fine. everything else i like as well the model is very nice indeed. good work.
Scotchy Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 The eyes definately need to be a bit bigger... and closer together. Check some reference shots of mace and chack against them... the eyes definately need to be bigger. Looking awesome otherwise. Keep up the good work toonces.
skywalker19 Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 Toonces,how in the heck do you manage all these projects at once?! It's mind boggling lol
jaybiggspr Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 2 crits I have, although they arent that big of a deal, are that his skin *might be a shade too dark but it might just be the pic, and maybe you could smooth out the textures on his robes. Like I said they really arent that important to me and I want to say good work. Looking forward! BTW I know this is off topic but where the pickles are all of the JKII servers these days?
12thMonkey Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 I think the actual white in his eyes is to bright and this makes him look shocked. Also the brown in his eyes is to light. Mace Windu
Arco Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 on those shots i think he is using the old eye texture. apart from the one by me. I'm sorry toonces I forgot to send you teh new one. Toonces is a very busy man... I am surprised he finds time for all this tweekage. But then I have no time whatsoever due to my 10 or so skining projects. I think me an Toonces like to do lots of stuff at once... either that or we are crazy! I will update both this and the obiwan thread today... Arco:deathii:
AKPiggott Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 Hey Toonces, looks good so far. I have a favour to ask though. Can you please add facial bones to it? I'm in fairly desperate need of a fully posable Mace Windu for my SP level. Cheers.
Enjoi9187 Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 the nostrils need to be at more of an angle, so u can kinda see up his nose, and the bridge of the nose needs to be farther apart along with the eyes. Maybe try to accent his jawline a bit more and make his forehead (his eyebrow line) protrude a tad.
Arco Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 toonces is rigging it for facial animation. I think he does that with all his models. Cos he is a dude. new skinage soon. Arco:deathii:
Eldritch Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 Originally posted by Shogun Lee I think the actual white in his eyes is to bright and this makes him look shocked. Also the brown in his eyes is to light. Mace Windu That link doesn't work for me. ::sniffs the air:: Mmm, fresh thread. -Anakin
Arco Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 ok update. I have done an icon of him and here is a shot of teh finished skin. I am still gonna tweek a few things on his face but I think that to make it look more like him toonces needs to do some more tweeks. Maybe elongate the head a bit to thin it out... make the jaw a little bit pointier. and for sure fix the shape of the head... not to worry toonces I will talk to you later about it. http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/genq3/icon_default.jpg http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/genq3/mace-body-fin.jpg Arco:deathii:
Darth Loki Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 nice, arco. elongating the head a little should be beneficial. his head still looks a little bulbous to me (though, this may be because he's bald)...
Eldritch Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 His lips should be moved up closer to the end of his nose. Reference pic : http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/multimedia/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Images/Episode_2/Characters/Mace_Windu&image=aotc-mace_windu_lg.jpg&img=&tt=
MysticSpade Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 thx for the update ARCO glad to see it. the skinwork is great. also u and Toonces make a godly team.
Prime Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 u and Toonces make a godly team. I'll second that I just can't wait for this and the other models to be released. It looks like Mace and Qui-Gon are really close now. Has there been an updated estimate of a release timeframe? Are we looking at days, weeks, or months? No pressure of course, I'd much rather they be done properly (which they obviously are) than rushed out. I'm just wondering if I'm getting my hopes up expecting Mace to be released soon, because it looks really close. Is there much more work that needs to be done? Just wondering. Your awesome models bring out the impatience in me!
_NinjaGaiden_ Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 Ok I Dont Mean to Pick but The head Shape is a little off and the jedi robes are a tad too light but other than that it looks pretty good .......one question why does Klorels Skins look a lot smoother?
Eldritch Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 Originally posted by _NinjaGaiden_ Ok I Dont Mean to Pick but The head Shape is a little off and the jedi robes are a tad too light but other than that it looks pretty good .......one question why does Klorels Skins look a lot smoother? Because Arco skinned this version. They're not using Klorel's skins. I do agree the outer robes are a bit too light and the fabric too rough... the inner robe though is a light cream color, but it hardly is seen - perhaps modify it a bit? -Anakin :EDIT: Toonces, I wish you would consider using a different model to base the body on - not trying to knock Tex's work but it's not the most accurate jedi attire...
Toonces Posted October 21, 2002 Author Posted October 21, 2002 Looks great Arco I love the icon Anakin_S I'm just wondering how off you think the body is? I remodeled the hips and he belt, as well as make a couple of tweaks for accuracy. I was thinking of using either Kit's body or completely making a new one but I thought with a couple of changes the body is pretty accurate. I still have some proportional changes to make. AKPiggott, I wouldn't release any model without adding the facial bones, so fear not Have some tweaks to make still on the head, I would have made them last night but I got sleepy
skywalker19 Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 Here's another couple reference pic's for the face,although i think it's pretty close now. Ref. Pic 1 Ref. Pic 2 hope these can help in some sorta way. ARCO,great job btw edit:found some more ref pics,mainly for the robe/body . For these last 3,copy and paste the shortcut,its geo****ies i tellz ya. Ref. Pic 3 Ref. Pic 4 Ref. Pic 5
inbredyokel Posted October 21, 2002 Posted October 21, 2002 I think the big problem with Tex's model when used with Mace is that his clothing looks too exaggerated. Take the shoulders, for example. On the last body shot, they look very wide and pointed, almost super-hero like. If you look at shots of sam in aotc, you can see that his clothing is really baggy, and it almost melts of his shoulders and hangs over his belt quite a bit. I think that's also a major problem with the sleeves, which look really narrow. Klorel got it about right on his mace(and misterpunch on plo), you just have to resign to the fact that the cuffs point backwards a little when his arms are down. Overall, it just looks too well-fitting and not very comfortable. Another thing I noticed(but this might be addressed when you reshape the head) is that his neck is waaay too long and thin, and I see this on obi as well. Samuel L Jackson has a very thick and short neck, and the lower part of his head is also much wider. As always, awsome work from both of you. It'll just take a little time to capture such a distinctive likeness. And, I don't mean to sound threatening, but if you mess up Mace I'm going to have to start making threats
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.