Jedi_Knight_27 Posted December 17, 2002 Posted December 17, 2002 why didn't anakin hear qui gon and yoda did in episode II? any thoughts?
Keiran Halcyon Posted December 17, 2002 Posted December 17, 2002 Well Yoda was meditating -> connecting with the Force -> connecting with dead Jedi. He heard the thoughts of Qui-Gon. Anakin may heard them ,but he ignored them becasue of the Dark side influence in him during that scene....
Darth Damage Posted December 18, 2002 Posted December 18, 2002 yea ani was too busy killing to haer him, yoda was medetating just out of luck i guess.
Frizbee Posted December 19, 2002 Posted December 19, 2002 I viewed that scene as only Anakin hearing the voice, but ignoring it. As Yoda says something like "I sense a great disturbance in the force, know not what it is." Had he heard Qui-Gon's voice, he would have known it was about Anakin.
teutonicknight Posted December 19, 2002 Posted December 19, 2002 Originally posted by Frizbee I viewed that scene as only Anakin hearing the voice, but ignoring it. As Yoda says something like "I sense a great disturbance in the force, know not what it is." Had he heard Qui-Gon's voice, he would have known it was about Anakin. Sorry to tell you, but that quote isn't even close. I have it at the top of my head (I think) Mace: What is it? Yoda: Pain... suffering... death I feel....something terrible has happened... Young Skywalker is in pain... terrible pain...... Then cuts to Obi on Geonoisis
Jedi_Knight_27 Posted December 19, 2002 Author Posted December 19, 2002 my point is this: you don't hear qui gon's voice until they show yoda meditating on coruscant and that tells you he was the one to hear qui gon not anakin if anakin heard him then you'd think that they would have shown a scene with anakin with qui gons voice
Taos Posted December 19, 2002 Posted December 19, 2002 Originally posted by Keiran Halcyon Well Yoda was meditating -> connecting with the Force -> connecting with dead Jedi. He heard the thoughts of Qui-Gon. Anakin may heard them ,but he ignored them becasue of the Dark side influence in him during that scene.... I think that this makes the most sense.
Wüstenfuchs Posted December 23, 2002 Posted December 23, 2002 Qui-Gon was supposed to appear as a spirit in EP II right? He didn't coz of a motorcycle accident I think. You can only hear this voice then
Frizbee Posted December 24, 2002 Posted December 24, 2002 Originally posted by teutonicknight Sorry to tell you, but that quote isn't even close. I have it at the top of my head (I think) Mace: What is it? Yoda: Pain... suffering... death I feel....something terrible has happened... Young Skywalker is in pain... terrible pain...... Then cuts to Obi on Geonoisis Okay, so Its been a long time since I saw the movie. But my point still stands. Yoda felt pain and suffering, and that Anakin was in pain... but he didn't mention about Qui Gon's voice. Had Yoda heard the voice, then he would have known exactly what Anakin was doing. Anyway, that's just my view
Jedi_Knight_27 Posted December 30, 2002 Author Posted December 30, 2002 not nessarilly or however it's spelled lol. that doesn't prove nothing even yoda who was the second most powerfull jedi ever didn't know everything that was going on remember that the dark side was clouding the jedi councils abilities with the force and if anakin heard qui gon then it would have shown anakin with the voice of anakins first mentor and not yoda with the voice think about it man. it all makes sense
Hannibal Posted December 30, 2002 Posted December 30, 2002 The novelization says that Yoda heard it because it kind of was like an explosion of pain and anger. It also says that Anakin didn't hear it because he was to angry and set on revenge.
boinga1 Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 yoda hears the voice because he's in meditation and very powerful anyway...Anakin "unlocks" the voice, but is 'deafened' and 'blinded' by the dark rage he experiences.
lukeskywalker1 Posted January 10, 2003 Posted January 10, 2003 i think that quigons spirit was upset or something because anakin took one of his first steps in turning to the dark side.
BCanr2d2 Posted January 11, 2003 Posted January 11, 2003 With QGJ being the one that originally wanted to train Anakin, it is to him that Anakin listens to the most. He helped Ani escape from the life of a slave, and to be trained as a Jedi. I see that both Yoda, and Anakin heard it. Whilst Yoda was meditating, looking for and trying to sense the flows within the force, anything that happens will be esily picked up by him. As to Ani, he has his mind full of rage, wanting to get back at the Tuskens for killing his mother. The best term I'd call it is "Selective Hearing" from Ani - he chose to ignore any counsel to settle down, and do it the "Jedi" way..
Redwing Posted January 11, 2003 Posted January 11, 2003 ...maybe I was hallucinating but I thought I heard that only Yoda heard it...and was surprised because Jedi don't stick around after they were dead (he must have not seen ANH-RotJ ) ...on the Star Wars website? No?
SettingShadow Posted January 11, 2003 Posted January 11, 2003 Originally posted by Redwing ...maybe I was hallucinating but I thought I heard that only Yoda heard it...and was surprised because Jedi don't stick around after they were dead (he must have not seen ANH-RotJ ) ...on the Star Wars website? No? Exactly what I´ve read. From Star Wars.com While meditating, Yoda had felt a traumatic event befall young Anakin Skywalker. At that very moment, he also heard the voice of Qui-Gon Jinn, a Jedi Master slain a decade previous. It was impossible for a Jedi to retain his identity after becoming one with the Force, yet he had heard it.
LiMP RABBiT Posted January 11, 2003 Posted January 11, 2003 I think, as was said earlier, that yoda was medatating and focused whereas anakin was lightsabering the crap out of some poor defensless creatures.
Luuke_Skywalker Posted January 17, 2003 Posted January 17, 2003 you call the tusken raiders defensless creatures? they were animals and ani killed them like animals. but i also read that anakin didn't hear qui gon
Keiran Halcyon Posted January 17, 2003 Posted January 17, 2003 Well they are not animals , anakin said it because of his rage he exaggerated. They are sentient beings. (just tell a wookie he is an animal and watch how your arms being teared appart from your body) In the book Rogue Planet it says that Qui-GOn sometimes spoke with Anakin...
GreekJedi Posted January 17, 2003 Posted January 17, 2003 If this is the first time a Jedi talks to someone after he dies then why doesn't Yoda say anything about it. Ppl say its suppose to be a very important part in the whole saga cuz no other jedi ever done that. I would of like to have seen Yoda confused or said something to Mace Mace "what is it?" Yoda "A voice i hear. Do not know what the meaning of the voice is. It speaks to Anakin. Pain....Suffering...Young skywalker is in terrible pain" its dumb but something like that.
-=Hooded-Jedi=- Posted January 18, 2003 Posted January 18, 2003 In my opionion (after watchin and listening closely to that part 23 times) its for episode 3 when obi 1 and anakin are have a duel then somethign happens and obi says ANAKIN and anakin falls in the moulten pit.... Of course thats my opionion but it maybe true....
Keiran Halcyon Posted January 18, 2003 Posted January 18, 2003 It is Liam Neeson's Voice. Officialy told.
vegietto Posted February 1, 2003 Posted February 1, 2003 if u read the book it said that ani heard it but the dark side had to great of control of him so he wasn't able to listened to him
Naphtali Posted February 2, 2003 Posted February 2, 2003 Originally posted by Jedi_Knight_27 why didn't anakin hear qui gon and yoda did in episode II? any thoughts? The book explains all the little things that couldb't be explained in the film, Anakin did hear it but was to entrenched in the darkside of the force to notice
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