Lord Glorfindel Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Originally posted by Squater Goblins in LotR? I´m sorry if I sound stupid but is there any Goblins in LotR? The Orcs are Elves taken by Morgoth, then they were tortured (sp?) and other sick things. I´ve read LOTR, TTT, ROTK and Silmarillion and no where I´ve heard of any Goblins Everything Squater has stated is true, except that different races call Orcs different things, Hobbits and Men Goblins and sometimes orcs, and Elves call them Yrch (its elvish). Some people in the books (not just LOTR but also The Hobbit, The Silmarillion, and the Unfinished Tales) call orcs all different types of names. All the answers are in tolkiens work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 You know what has always bothered me? The lack of the mention of what they used for toilet paper. I wanna know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki GM Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Originally posted by Boba Rhett You know what has always bothered me? The lack of the mention of what they used for toilet paper. I wanna know! maybe they used cloth or nothing at all I would like to see them try to make a movie based on the silmarillions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I'd prefer really to see a live-action version of "The Hobbit" than the silmarillions. But that's just me. But of course we all know that Peter Jackson just wanted to do The Hobbit, but Paramount said no and that $75 Mil was asking to much for a single movie. So, someone got a hold of an agent at New Line, and they offered Peter Jackson and crew $300 mill to make the LOTR Trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Originally posted by Andy867 I'd prefer really to see a live-action version of "The Hobbit" than the silmarillions. i would too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 The Silmarrilion would take 5 or more movies to make, compared to LOTR.... Anyway, it isn't a completed book, so why would you want to make a movie out of something that isn't finished?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettingShadow Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Originally posted by Quendi I would like to see them try to make a movie based on the silmarillions That would be Really hard, considering how many battles it were, how many ages etc. Its really nothing that would do good on the screen, its to complicated and it would need like at least 6-8 movies . Theres to many characters and descriptions of them and what they did etc, you could never squeze that into a movie. It just aint possible, of course you could maybe just include the most important things of the book but even then it would be very very hard to do. Besides Silmarillion is a piece of art and it wouldnt be right to make a film of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 So what if it takes 6 or so movies. I don't hear anyone complaining that it is has taken 6 movies to tell the Star Wars story. And you know that there will be people who will go see the movies, regardless of how many. Plus look at what all the Star Wars films have done and the Lord Of the Rings movies. Thats a lot of action, but they managed. And technically speaking, if you go off of finished products/books, then one could argue the whole idea behind the Star Wars movies and how there are supposed to be 9 Episodes in All, but George Lucas doesn't feel like making the last 3. So its ALSO an unfinished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 orcs are cool but i think urukai were the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I like the Orcs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarlacc Food Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 ah-.. gobbos... i wish they had more warhammer looking gobbos in lotr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teleguy Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Q: Which of the Vala made the dwarves? And in doing so, did he inadvertently create the goblins (the forerunners of the Orcs)? –Earl Duncan A: Time to check your head at the door, my friend. The race of Dwarves were created by Aulë, long before the first Elves and Men appeared. And Aulë had NOTHING to do with goblins! Further, the goblins are not the forerunners of Orcs by any stretch of the imagination. Tolkien used different names for the same creatures, and in LOTR mostly abandoned his earlier use of the word ‘goblin’. It is understood that the origin of the Orcs goes back to Morgoth, who took a huge population of the original Elves and twisted them through black arts and torture to become Orcs. Now my turn to ask a question: Have you read The Silmarillion lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I always thought they were the same, but some one told me they were not. I was right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Glorfindel Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I think they should make a Beren and Luthien movie. The only problem would be how to make a three-time talking hound of Valinor (aka Huan)? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Didnt Gandalf say something like "Sauroman's treachery runs deeper than you think. He has crossed Goblins with Orcs..." Or something like that?? I don't have my 4 or 2-disk edition out at the moment, but could someone confirm that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 yes he said "the foul craft of saruman is crossing orcs with gobblin men. hes breeding an army in the caverns of isenguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki GM Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 I always thought that the goblins where created like orcs only with men indtead of elves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd_Annhilator Posted January 8, 2003 Author Share Posted January 8, 2003 but in the movie saruman said he had croosed orcs with goblins to make these uruk hai................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 He said Goblin Men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Originally posted by Boba Rhett He said Goblin Men. whats the difference. im sure both genders look the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 It makes a difference because Goblin men are not goblins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Originally posted by Boba Rhett It make a difference because Goblin men are not goblins.... i think i get what your saying now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Ackbar8 Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 orcs are trained by Sauron and Saruman they have to be better than goblins who learn themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Glorfindel Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 Goblin Men are Uruk-Hai, Goblins (AKA Orcs) mixed with Men are Uruk-Hai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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