Skate Boy Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 I heard "somewhere" that they are dropping the price of CDs. They cost way too much. It's just stupid, because I don't have any money. Also on a Cd, 2-3 songs are good and the rest suck. So to pay 15-20 bucks for 3 songs in dumb. I just like to download the three songs that I like and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 I have a total of 256 MP3s on my computer, most of them downloaded from KaZaA. I do have a lot more stuff downloaded which takes up even more space, ranging from dozens of Anime episodes and music videos to films. My whole KaZaA shared folder totals at 7.01GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Originally posted by Darklighter I have a total of 256 MP3s on my computer, most of them downloaded from KaZaA. I do have a lot more stuff downloaded which takes up even more space, ranging from dozens of Anime episodes and music videos to films. My whole KaZaA shared folder totals at 7.01GB. *Swats Darky on the head with a rolled up newspaper* No "k" speak around here dammit, you know better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Originally posted by edlib Nute, perhaps you can answer this... has anybody ever made an argument for the file sharing=communism connection yet? As far as I've read, the only connection I've ever seen is the "Dude, like the music wants to be free so we shouldn't stop it. I hate the concept of intellectual property." That's not exactly the best of arguments. I haven't heard anything from the other side other than that funny picture that says "When you download mp3s, you're downloading communism." My own theory as to why the mp3 exploded isn't that people wanted to steal music or people thought "hey, free music!" In fact, i never gave it any thought at all, yet i would be appalled at myself if was to actually shoplift myself an Avril Lavigne CD (didn't stop me from downloading it and waiting for the pre-Grammy sales before I grab it for $12). What i think is the root of it all is music, as far as it is in my mind, isn't a tangible asset. It's something that only affects the senses and emotions. It's hard to define a value for that for some reason. I think it's the intangible nature of a sound that makes it very hard to think "i stole that." I'll admit this theory isn't very sound and i didn't do a good job at all of fleshing it out. I came up with it the other day, so it's a new idea to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Well, I found this guy and a couple of others like him promoting file sharing as a way to enact something they call "dot-communism"; but I don't know how seriously I'd take the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Originally posted by edlib something they call "dot-communism" Uhm wtf? dot communism i fail to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 How many MP3's do I have? Never thought about it before. *Goes to count* Got 53. hmm...not that many compared to some of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted February 6, 2003 Author Share Posted February 6, 2003 don't cds have better sound quality than mp3s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 yeah most mp3s are at a lower quality to CD music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 Originally posted by InsaneSith Uhm wtf? dot communism i fail to see it. Yeah, I think it's mostly a joke... a play on words. But file sharing has made it possible for everything that can be converted to digital information to be shared effortlessly. Within the community everything is free, everthing is shared, and nobody really owns anything. The boundarys between "mine" and "yours" fail to have meaning if you can freely take whatever is mine anytime you want, and vice versa. Those that are members of an online sharing "community" like Napster and it's ilk are continually reminded by those around them to share everything they have. In that light a sharing service does hold striking similarites to the ideals set in communistic thought. It's not an exact analog, but an argument could be made. There's just as many arguments that can be made from the other side as well, but I thought it was an interesting way of looking at it and worthy of deeper thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 Originally posted by Lynk Former yeah most mp3s are at a lower quality to CD music MP3s use a heavy compression codec scheme to gain a much smaller file size, and then employs some "psychoacoustical" techniques to trick the ear to cover up the effects of the data loss. CD audio is uncompressed (no data loss.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 I don't have a problem with compression, as it sounds then same to me as uncompressed. I'm not an osilliscope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 Depends on what bit rate you compress at. The higher it is the more accurate it will sound, but the trade off is that the file will be bigger. My personal limit to MP3 compression seems to be 96Kbps. Most music encoded at a rate lower than that is almost untolerable to me. I always prefer 128 and higher if possible. But then, I have heard a number of classic albums remastered at high-bit and -sample rate DVD-A played back on a insanely high-quality speaker system in a great acoustical envornment. That spoiled me to even CD-quality audio, so I may not be the best judge of what most people can tolerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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