AutoCept Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by griff38 I just can't believe it, there is just too much evidence to the contrary. evidence? Not to turn this into a war thread, but such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn Outcast Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by Flanders Sorry to say but, some American people are show offs.. Sorry, I really needed to get that off my back. *puts anti flame suit on* Umm I could honestly say the same for every country in the world. And everyone the cross was just an accident. Its not like the photographer stood there waiting for that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daring dueler Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 i too say god bless america-and while i may not be a huge fan of our govt. were free arnt we so i cant complain although it can be bad...but never the less i am extremily patriotic ........great pic and for those who flame the people who like it you should be ashamed of yourselves you shouldnt poste if you dont like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by AutoCept evidence? Not to turn this into a war thread, but such as? I'm thinking it's more likely lack of evidence. Barring seeing God towering in front of me wielding a flame sword and a radiant aura, saying "Here I am! Now Believe!!!", nothing we've seen yet can logically be connected to God. Using inane "arguments" such as "Look at the beauty of life. It's God's work" is not going to work - anyone, including my dead grandmother buried in my backyard could have created that - there's no logical connection. What's the difference between the three following examples: The Nihilanth is the All Father. All life must obey his every wish. Everything is within his grasp, and none can escape it, since he is all there is, and nothing exists without the spiritual bond to him. He shall descend unto the Earth when the Kmethechele have passed its seventh cycle, and he shall rule everything in his fleshy form. All that see him shall despair, for he is not meant to be looked upon. Ever since the second Lion of Cthas'rath leapt over the remains of Great Bulbulu, the universe has been thrust into the third winter, and the Nailebe will inherit the earth. The great ones will come, and everything will perish until the next spring. Jesus of Nazareth is the Lord and Saviour. By accepting him in your heart, you shall rule beside him in his heaven and hell. By following his Word, you shall become void of sin, and your soul shall be placed upon the pedestal of the Lord, to be looked upon and analyzed. If you do not succumb to the Lord Jesus, you will forever be torn apart by kittens with sharp claws and a wicked sense of Sadomasochism You're right. There isn't any difference. There is no logical reason to believe in any of this hogwash I just made up. All of these screwed up distortions of reality have one thing in common: There is no sensible reason to believe in them, and all you can do is throw your logical sense out the window, putting your trust into something you have no chance of ever seeing evidence of, and start worshipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by ShockV1.89 I have to ask... Rogue, why dont you move to another country? Don't really have that option at the moment....and I don't know other country's...only know allot about the u.s....and it sickens me....I would have to research a place..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by RoguePhotonic Don't really have that option at the moment....and I don't know other country's...only know allot about the u.s....and it sickens me....I would have to research a place..... May I suggest a "from cradle to grave" welfare system? I don't know how comfortable you are with socialistic values, but it seems like you want to get away from the laissez-faire of the states. Or maybe Burma, on second thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 it's so pretty.... it's the canadian flag, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 wow i love how the sun looks like a cross through the flag. God bless america Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 I think it's a nice picture. If it was an austrailian flag, I think it would be a nice picture. If it had the Mexico Flag on it, I would find it nice. With polotics/religion aside, it's a nice picture. Stop trying to see so deep into it, and you won't get offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 *walks in* Hmmm, I wonder what reactions people would have if I made a thread about a picture of the russian flag with a shining cross in it... *walks out* *points head back in* Or even better, what about the Noth Korean flag... *runs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn *walks in* Hmmm, I wonder what reactions people would have if I made a thread about a picture of the russian flag with a shining cross in it... *walks out* *points head back in* Or even better, what about the Noth Korean flag... *runs* hehe Thats a beautiful picture. Like Taters said, if you don't like the picture, we don't want to hear your crap about how you hate America, since this thread is honoring America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn *walks in* Hmmm, I wonder what reactions people would have if I made a thread about a picture of the russian flag with a shining cross in it... *walks out* *points head back in* Or even better, what about the Noth Korean flag... *runs* Read my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by ZBomber we don't want to hear your crap about how you hate America, When did I say I hate USA? Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't. Or perhaps you were talking to RougePhotonic? If you did, I would like to point out that it was pretty confusing since you were quoting my post. since this thread is honoring America. Is it? Strange I didn't notice. Thought it was just showing a picture. Read my post. Well, fer one thing, I started writing the post before you posted, meaning I had never seen that post of yours before I posted. Also, I doubt that all thinks the same as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn Well, fer one thing, I started writing the post before you posted, meaning I had never seen that post of yours before I posted. Ah, ok. Sorry bout that, chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted February 11, 2003 Author Share Posted February 11, 2003 Holy cow, this thread turned into a war. The reason I posted this was a reminder to America, of what made America successful and blessed. Unfortunatly, America turned it's back on God along time ago...and now it's going downhill. The picture was posted to make us all "remember" how America became such a great nation. In God we trust, one nation, under God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by C'jais May I suggest a "from cradle to grave" welfare system? I don't know how comfortable you are with socialistic values, but it seems like you want to get away from the laissez-faire of the states. Or maybe Burma, on second thought. not really sure what your saying lol... You mean get some welfare system from another country?.... laissez-faire don't even know what that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 laissez-faire is an economic concept by Adam Smith that states the government should not be involved in controlling the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn When did I say I hate USA? Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't. Or perhaps you were talking to RougePhotonic? If you did, I would like to point out that it was pretty confusing since you were quoting my post. Is it? Strange I didn't notice. Thought it was just showing a picture. Well, fer one thing, I started writing the post before you posted, meaning I had never seen that post of yours before I posted. Also, I doubt that all thinks the same as you. I wasn't talking about you. I quoted you because I kinda thoguht what you said was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 Originally posted by obi-wan13 laissez-faire is an economic concept by Adam Smith that states the government should not be involved in controlling the economy. hmmm...well then nope not tired of that...I don't give a **** about the economy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Holy cow, this thread turned into a war. The reason I posted this was a reminder to America, of what made America successful and blessed. Unfortunatly, America turned it's back on God along time ago...and now it's going downhill. The picture was posted to make us all "remember" how America became such a great nation. In God we trust, one nation, under God. So,then, why the hell do we say George Washington or Alexander (His last name escapes me at the moment) helped find the country, if really God did it? God seems like a dictator to me,anyways...which is against the very ideals of the United States.(And America,for that matter). But this really doesnt belong here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CagedCrado Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 Hey, to all of you atheists..... you will be turned long before you will turn one christian.... atleast they have something to have faith in. You shouldnt bother us about our beliefs. I dont tell you that you have no right to be an atheist. I used to be an atheist at one time, but i was depressed and mean and filled with hate. Somebody who has faith in something, even if it is the all mighty shoe, will be stronger emotionally than someone without faith. I think that atheists live very easy lives not to want something to look for, and along with your anti christian thoughts comes hate for the united states You dont even criticize all religion usually, and i dont think i did anything to you. Also this wasnt meant to be some religious symbol or anything, just how it looks. Get over it. If you dont have anything nice to say dont post on things like this. I cant believe to you people something so innocent becomes an insult. You are ignorant and closed minded. Sorry if you dont like that, get over it. Ive been putting up with your stupid remarks for a long time and you will never understand, it isnt about evidence... its about a feeling that you get when you feel connected to god or your deity somehow. I hope that you find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CagedCrado Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 Oh yes, and tyrion.... if god was a dictator hed strike you down and kill you for not believing.... he never did that. He gives you 80 years to be a good person, doesnt necesarily mean you have to believe.... but it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted February 12, 2003 Author Share Posted February 12, 2003 Tyrion, because George Washington DID help found it. I said God made the country great..never said He founded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 Originally posted by CagedCrado Oh yes, and tyrion.... if god was a dictator hed strike you down and kill you for not believing.... he never did that. He gives you 80 years to be a good person, doesnt necesarily mean you have to believe.... but it helps. So? He just kills me later than sooner..and sends me to a fate worse than death.. It's either follow him,or live in Hell. Gee,that sure looks like dictatorship to me... I'm an anthesist,and I'm not full of hate. Hell, I never want a war to happen(While some christians *coughcrusaderscough* started wars and had bloodshed in the name of God..). That and it's always nice to ponder my existance,knowing I was created for some purpose(that freaks me out,knowing I was created to do something..knowing that my free will isnt really free will...). Just because a million people believe in something,doesnt mean it's right. Of course,that goes both ways,but I accept that. And I dont mind the government,it isnt the best(it's damn good,though, but there's still some things I dont particulary agree about) but I am not gonna put bombs in my shoes and blow up plains(contrary to popular belief:D)). And the picture was a religious symbol...do you really think Rp would've posted it if it didnt have the cross? He even heavily encouraged(and even posted,I think) that it was about God. So how excactly could it not be interpreted as a holy symbol? (P.S. in fact,according to some people(most people,actually. obi for one) I could be the nicest and most polite person ever,but if I dont believe in god,down I go when I die...) It's more of the Christian belief I dont like,not the Christians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted February 12, 2003 Author Share Posted February 12, 2003 you miss the point, Tyrion. if it was just "God", I would have posted a cross, no? I just said, it was an awesome picture. Some people read into things way to bad. it's just a reminder of how it came to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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