SpyCatcher Posted April 20, 2003 Posted April 20, 2003 I use to play Outcast all the time but became frustrated with all the cheating has this been corrected or is it business as usual?
wassup Posted April 20, 2003 Posted April 20, 2003 cheating? Is this in MP? Maybe you are joining cheat-enabled MP servers? I haven't really encountered any cheating in MP...and in SP its up to you whether you want to cheat or not.
NerfYoda Posted April 20, 2003 Posted April 20, 2003 Aye I cant say I've encountered any rampant cheating in JO, just a few cheat enabled servers here and there.
Duelist Posted April 20, 2003 Posted April 20, 2003 Neither have I encountered any server with cheats enabled... Are you talking about scripts or the like?
Prime Posted April 20, 2003 Posted April 20, 2003 I fear to ask if SpyCatcher is refering to "laming"? Because I don't think there has been much in the way of cheating in JO since it came out.
taekwondo joe Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 Quote Originally posted by Prime I fear to ask if SpyCatcher is refering to "laming"? Because I don't think there has been much in the way of cheating in JO since it came out. same ehre ritious dude
DeTRiTiC-iQ Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 there are exploits which are beyond unfair to the extent that they are considered cheating.
Prime Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 Quote Originally posted by DeTRiTiC-iQ there are exploits which are beyond unfair to the extent that they are considered cheating. I'd like to know about these, could you give me a list? I thought that exploits had been kept to a minimum. Are you refering to pull/throw and the like, or something else?
Jeff 42 Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 The one-rocket homing bug, maybe? It's definitely lame, but it's not so bad that it ruins games or anything.
DeTRiTiC-iQ Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 Jeff, that bug can dominate games, I had a demo of it being used literally non-stop. When a player never misses a rocket shot for 20 minutes, when the rockets home at the cost of only one ammo, and when the homing rockets fly at the speed of normal rockets, it can dominate a game.
SpyCatcher Posted April 23, 2003 Author Posted April 23, 2003 Thanks for responding people but I am not sure what "Laming" means I was refering to the numerous different cheats that are available (different stances, more power in the saber when striking, using 4 dirrerent force power at once, unlimited health). Has these been corrected I would like to begin playing again. Let me know please.
boinga1 Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 those sound a lot like SP cheats, but.... more stances can be aquired with JediMod, ForceMod, OmniMod, JediPlus, and the like. Never heard of 4 forces at once nor seen a player w/ unlimited health (anyway, how would you know if he had unlimited??).
NerfYoda Posted April 24, 2003 Posted April 24, 2003 Quote Originally posted by SpyCatcher Thanks for responding people but I am not sure what "Laming" means I was refering to the numerous different cheats that are available (different stances, more power in the saber when striking, using 4 dirrerent force power at once, unlimited health). Has these been corrected I would like to begin playing again. Let me know please. The stuff you're describing sounds like the things you can do in the various JediMod/Plus style mods out there or are just server settings (like g_saberdamagescale). Did you get any of these on plain ol' basejk servers?
SpyCatcher Posted April 24, 2003 Author Posted April 24, 2003 All the mods you describle are standard and were available within weeks of Outcasts release. All of the cheats I refered to are used in MP this is the reason so many just stopped playing. As for the four force powers right after each other and unlimited health ..... those were the cheats I used just to compete on MP. There use to be a cheat that allowed you jump and fly accross the entire map without landing. Lucas Arts never attempted to fix the scripts or cheats in the game I would like to know if a new patch has been made available to prevent all types of cheating. Thank you for responding.
N3mesis Posted April 24, 2003 Posted April 24, 2003 There are numerous exploits in base jk2 MP like the invisible saber bug, and one witch lets you regenerate your HP in duel servers, none of these require mods or cheat enabled servers
Prime Posted April 24, 2003 Posted April 24, 2003 Quote Originally posted by DeTRiTiC-iQ Jeff, that bug can dominate games, I had a demo of it being used literally non-stop. When a player never misses a rocket shot for 20 minutes, when the rockets home at the cost of only one ammo, and when the homing rockets fly at the speed of normal rockets, it can dominate a game. Isn't that the way rockets normally work though? What is the bug? And can't you just push them away anyhow?
Tosh_UK Posted April 24, 2003 Posted April 24, 2003 Quote Originally posted by Prime Isn't that the way rockets normally work though? What is the bug? And can't you just push them away anyhow? No.. when you use a rocket as a homer, it costs 2 rounds and flys slower. if you can get it to home at the cost of 1 and at the faster speed thats cheating. as if you flag running you not got time to push them away, you nomaly rely on speed and doge to evade them.
Emon Posted April 24, 2003 Posted April 24, 2003 There are exploits, but there aren't cheats in the sense of modifying the code to get what you want.
SpyCatcher Posted April 24, 2003 Author Posted April 24, 2003 I hate to say this but not every person is able to take advantage of the exploits it is cheating any way you look at it....
Emon Posted April 25, 2003 Posted April 25, 2003 I didn't say it wasn't unfair or cheating. I'm just saying that cheating in the sense of modifying the game's code isn't possible.
DeTRiTiC-iQ Posted April 25, 2003 Posted April 25, 2003 whereas cheating by the conventional definition is.
zERoCooL2479 Posted April 25, 2003 Posted April 25, 2003 Quote Originally posted by N3mesis There are numerous exploits in base jk2 MP like the invisible saber bug, and one witch lets you regenerate your HP in duel servers, none of these require mods or cheat enabled servers How do you regenerate health in duel servers? Perhaps I can implement a fix for the JA Mod... Thanks!!
Rumor Posted April 25, 2003 Posted April 25, 2003 you lag yourself out and reconnect. and exploits? FF dueling revolves around exploits. be it pull kick, glitch kick, pull throw, pull throw kick. and you can fly across temple and some other maps if you hit an incline when landing while holding jump. that is if you have force jump. also 4 forces at once? never seen this but you can do forces in rapid succession so fast that it seems that it is happening at once. i've been accused of hacking more than once because i can pk or ptk.
shock ~ unnamed Posted April 25, 2003 Posted April 25, 2003 heh you should see this little combo/bug Break found and was working on in private before he left. It's hard to describe and picture but he nails you with a ptk against a wall and kind of kicks off you and avoids the return on the saber throw and it buzzes around him shredding you up before he hits the ground. I'm not sure if he ever made a demo of it but it was really cool, I've never seen anyone else do it or even attempt it.
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