rad-x Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 Right, let's chat about what if we really got to see the war in Star Wars, and all the conceiving and such to be done...
Lynk Former Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 this topic is cause of me saying something about seeing how Luke and Leia were concieved in another topic wasn't it... XD
wassup Posted April 29, 2003 Posted April 29, 2003 Um...how about (dont read if you are under 18 or offended by violence or sex) Well, the first thing that comes to mind would be Anakin's and Padme's...uh...mating. Also, during the Clone Wars battles, we can have clonetrooper's legs and heads blown off, with blood and guts flying everywhere, kinda like "Saving Private Ryan" or "Band of Brothers", cept with Star Wars.
JediNyt Posted April 29, 2003 Posted April 29, 2003 Well there wouldnt be lots of blood, there would be fried body parts everywhere. What we have seen in starwars battles is pretty realistic concidering the weapons used. Big burning holes in people instead of big bloody holes. As far as the sex, well thats pretty self explanitory. Although there have been a couple inuendos in the past like "Sorry sweetheart, aint got time for anything else."
boinga1 Posted May 5, 2003 Posted May 5, 2003 uh oh...I'm not 18....I'd better go...mommie? SIKE!! You guys all wish.
Darth_Rive Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 The best way to make the movies a bit more appropriate for adults is definitely to make the action sequences a bit more intense, ie more Obi-Wan vs Maul style saber fights, or even go a bit more Hong-Kong movie style. OOOOOH, now there's a great idea, get Jackie Chan in to choreograph the fight sequences and even play as a Sith Lord. Wow, now there's a great idea..... They'd also have to make the space battles a little more intense as well, a bit more like the Jango vs Obi-Wan battle near Geonosis, except taking out the ridiculous rate of fire that Slave One's cannons seemed to have and the amount of shield power Obi-Wan's ship had. How is it possible that the Jedi Starfighter had almost impenetrable shielding, and yet 30 years later, TIE-Fighters have none whatsoever....
wassup Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 Originally posted by Darth_Rive The best way to make the movies a bit more appropriate for adults is definitely to make the action sequences a bit more intense, ie more Obi-Wan vs Maul style saber fights, or even go a bit more Hong-Kong movie style. OOOOOH, now there's a great idea, get Jackie Chan in to choreograph the fight sequences and even play as a Sith Lord. Wow, now there's a great idea..... They'd also have to make the space battles a little more intense as well, a bit more like the Jango vs Obi-Wan battle near Geonosis, except taking out the ridiculous rate of fire that Slave One's cannons seemed to have and the amount of shield power Obi-Wan's ship had. How is it possible that the Jedi Starfighter had almost impenetrable shielding, and yet 30 years later, TIE-Fighters have none whatsoever.... First, Jackie Chan would not make the best choreographer. The guy who choreographed The Matrix and Crouching TIger Hidden Dragon would be a much better choice, since he has both experience and actually learned real kung fu (not dissing Jackie in any way here). Second, Obi-wan's ship did not have impenetrable shields, where did you get that thought. He survived that long against Jango because Jango did not hit him at first. Using his uber Jedi reflexes, he was able to dodge Jango's laser blasts, that is, until he got surprised by Jango's sudden attack after coming out of the big asteroid. TIE fighters are piloted by regular pilots, not Jedi, and also they are considered cannon fodder by the Empire since they can replace them as fast as they lost them, so the Empire doesn't care if TIE fighters are weak.
Darth_Rive Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 Whooooooah, hold on there, sport. First of all, yes, whilst Ang Lee and the Wacohwski brothers are very good directors and work with excellent choroegraphers, they fall miserably short of the technical know-how of Jackie Chan, who has been studying martial arts his entire life. I'd say that was enough knowledge, youldn't you? All you have to do is watch a few of his movies to see the various styles he knows inside out - Drunken Boxing, Praying Mantis, Snake, Eagle Claw, to name but a few. So unfortunately what you said is utter rubbish. Yes, I agree that the choroegrapher for "The Matrix" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" was very good (I'mnot even sure it was the same person either, to be honest), but no-one in that industry knows as much about fight choreography as Jackie Chan. For starters, did you know that Jackie Chan plans his fight sequences before they've even written the movie? Secondly.... were we even watching the same movie? The second Jango opens fire, Obi-Wan saysm "Blast, this is why I hate flying," and through the cockpit window you can see all the little "explosions" where the laser bolts are hitting his rear shields. And he never fired upon him until he got out of the large asteroid, he used the Seismic Charges, rememeber? And as for the TIE-Fighter thing, that's one thing I never understood about the Empire - why not put some deflector shields into the TIE-Fighters and make the pilots in them that much more effective at their job? Surely the cost of a deflector array is less than that of another TIE-Fighter and the cost of training a pilot? Yes, I do understand the fact that the Empire places no value on its servants, but even still, you'd think logic would prevail at some point....
wassup Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 I'm not even gonna compare Jackie Chan and Yuen Wo Ping (thats the guy I was talking about) and their martial arts capabilities, because essentially they are pretty much evenly matched. They are both great martial artists. Wo Ping's father was Yuen Siu Tin, who was also a big role model for Jackie Chan. They both studied Peking Opera and kungfu. What I am trying to get at is that Yuen Wo Ping has directed and choreographed many hit films (mostly Hong Kong), while Jackie Chan has done none of this. Yes, he can sure fight, but can he teach other people to fight? And if he can, does he have the experience as a choreographer and a director that Wo Ping surely has (Matrix, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Iron Monkey, etc.)? As for that Jango-Obi chase scene, yes, I guess I was just hallucinating...I'll go watch that scene again.
Jeedii_zaarinn Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 may i suggest to the jango-obi chase scene is that, i couldev sworn that jango was hitting obi's ship dead on. yes the sheilds on obi's ship were not invincible. obi perhaps was using the force to make his shields stronger. at least thats what i would have done if i were in this predictament.
wassup Posted May 11, 2003 Posted May 11, 2003 Originally posted by Darth_Rive Yuen Wo-Ping Jackie Chan Nuff sed. Say what?
wassup Posted May 11, 2003 Posted May 11, 2003 Originally posted by Darth_Rive They're IMDB.com links. Click them. I did. I still don't get it.
boinga1 Posted May 11, 2003 Posted May 11, 2003 Just a little FYI, I'm 99.9% sure Jango's blasts spark when he hits asteroids arounds Obi's ship, they are in an asteroid field with lots of little asteroids floating around.
BobaJango Posted May 17, 2003 Posted May 17, 2003 Be better if both Yuen Wo-Ping and Chan did it together. Oh, and did you not notice the rahter large black scorches and holes in Obi Wan's ship when he landed at Geonosis? Obi Wan was lucky he had the force to save him that day.
Jeedii_zaarinn Posted May 17, 2003 Posted May 17, 2003 like wise, obis shields were dead, and he was using a force sheild to keep the ship together
boinga1 Posted May 17, 2003 Posted May 17, 2003 You might recall when Jango hits obi-wan and boba goes, "We got him!" Hence, the scorch marks. Anyway, doubtless there were some grazing blasts, but that there was a direct hit.
Shotokan Posted May 18, 2003 Posted May 18, 2003 Ok please recall that Obi and Jango were in an asteroid field. Asteroid fields are usually filled with rocks varying in sizes, ne? So... Small rocks would be all over the place and Jango was hitting most of those and larger ones. That's what I would say caused all of those explosions. Yes, initially I was led to believe that Obi had uber shields but upon closer inspection it only made sense that other debris was getting destroyed. It's only logical.
Sam Fisher Posted May 19, 2003 Posted May 19, 2003 A littli off topic, eh? Well, back to it, about blood and gore, and..... you know what, Lucasfilms has never done like that and never will because they want to keep it clean so anyone can watch the SW films.
Aalya Posted May 20, 2003 Posted May 20, 2003 First off this is a stupid. Every one is saying heads getting cut off and blood and gore and also saying 'you know what' look we know what you think why don't you just say it ok.
Darth_Rive Posted May 21, 2003 Posted May 21, 2003 OK, you know what, forget it. I give up on these boards. All the people here are ridiculously retarded and have no idea what they're talking about. I'm leaving. Goodbye.
wassup Posted May 22, 2003 Posted May 22, 2003 Um...ya...bye... Sore loser anyone? Ok...lets get back on topic here... I think Lucas made his characters in the prequels too clean. In the classic trilogy, characters (Luke, Han, etc.) had a sort of gritty and tough feeling and characteristics. Lucas needs to bring this back and maybe even enchance/amplify the gore/grittiness (is that even a word? )
Rad707_Pandaz Posted May 25, 2003 Posted May 25, 2003 If I were George Lucas, I'd say **** the MPAA and let his good buddy Steven Spielberg direct Episode III. Spielberg has directed a WHOLE lot more R-rated movies and just plain movies. But if ol' George is directing, I hope he puts a little less whine and alot more killin' in Ep.III. He also needs to put Tim Roth in it (more on that later) As for this whole debate about choreography, it's pretty much a tie. Wo Ping's 100 Agent Smith fight was mindblowing. The swordfight at the end of Shanghai Knights was mindblowing. But has anyone seen "The Musketeer" came out in 2000. The story sorta sucked but the fight scenes kicked total ass. The sword fights in that movie....damn....it even has a homage to the old martial arts films in the form of a swordfight on a bunch of ladders. Tim Roth played the villain in that movie, and he played it damn well. He played the role like a dark, badass, Sith. Like when this dude is charging at him, Tim Roth blocks the guys attack and does some twist thing with his sword and kills the guy in one swift move. Then he ends it with a sacastic line,"Sorry you had to come all that way for this..." and walks away like a badass.
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