Has mankind visited the moon?

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Originally posted by Silent_Thunder

Uh.. can you explain that experiment in alittle more detail... I'm interested... but you really lost me there about covering up both slits and firing through the left one (??). But I would actually like to know how that experiment proves parallel universes. Thanks.

 

It doesn't really prove anything, since everything that happens at the quantum level is so strange and foriegn to human understanding there could be another explanation for it we just haven't discovered yet.

 

This is the article I read that explained this theory the best: http://www.discover.com/sept_01/featsecret.html

 

Some other related ones:

 

http://www.physicspost.com/articles.php?articleId=10

 

http://www.physicspost.com/articles.php?articleId=112

 

http://www.sciencenook.com/gdt/nt_iipw.htm

 

http://www.wordless.com/cgi/article.asp?ArticleId=21

[Zoom Rabbit]

Well, Ray, the whole quantum spaghetti model only occured to me because I'm a cook in real life. One day I dropped a meatball into a vat of spaghetti noodles, and the truth was only obvious from there.

 

Actually, you already answered your question. I am a mystic...and these days mystics think about a whole lot of stuff besides religion. You just might be one, too.

[Darth Rythe]

quantum spaghetti??????????

Now this is freaking me out.

[Zoom Rabbit]

Don't be scared. Eating quantum spaghetti isn't all that difficult. You twirl the noodles around the fork like normal spaghetti--you just have to be prepared for either the fork being in any given location on its way to your mouth, or the spaghetti noodles having no finite length in a three-dimensional universe.

 

Wear a bib.

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AND it goes well with Graviton Sauce.

 

I recommend starting with a nice, irrational-number salad, a little loaf of realitivistic bread, perhaps some anti-particle antipasta, and a carafe of multi-dimensional wine.

[Ray Jones]

..travel

but if ..

.. time

 

possible ..

it is.. you think?

goes time .. forward!!

to

how .. back ..

 

then .. time.. have to.

 

process same. the time .. all

and backwards.

??

[Zoom Rabbit]

Kids, what happened to Ray just now is a perfect example of why you should never conceptualize a singularity into existance by messing with nonlinear time. Stay away from singularities! Quantum theory is not a toy for the idle mind.

 

Safety first.

[RoguePhotonic]

lol I love that though...start talking about something and people look at ya like ???.....you lost em with the first sentence.

 

lol i'm a teddy bear now eh?

[edlib]

Yes,.. but a quarrelsome one. Which means we have to bring the big gun with the heavy-duty trank-darts when it's "Quiet-Time" for you.

 

[RoguePhotonic]

 

Damn straight you need the big ones...I got big claws...

[Zoom Rabbit]

I did it. I just couldn't stand to see you branded a 'DJG' like all the rest of the riff-raff...

 

Feliz Navidad. Until it gets reset.

[Homuncul]

It doesn't really prove anything, since everything that happens at the quantum level is so strange and foriegn to human understanding there could be another explanation for it we just haven't discovered yet.

 

It doesn't prove if solely in quantum theory assumed. The problem with proving multiverse exists is a new direction in modern science and it also gave a great impact on epistemology itself so many old conservative scientists today still rely on induction method or a pure logical model proof which is proved to be invalid. The multiverse is not solely explained in terms of quantum mechanics but also in terms of genetics and biology itself, quantum computation, quantum consciousness and many different modern directions.

 

Of course their can be another explanation but multiverse explanation is the best we now possess. I've read some things it and makes great sense for me.

 

It resolves so many unexplained things that science has been stuck to for morethan a hundred years. Por ejemplo multiverse xplains time paradoxes, life's fundamentality, our ability to build a perfetc computer and therefore be closer to understand of what's real. It raises new horizons for scientists in creating time machine, building quantum computers performing operations in multiverse, advancing nanotecgnology with better background judgement. I can name more. The difference today for such theories is not it's "invalid" proof (it is considered by many scientists), but the valid explanation we must make for people who still live in classical universe.

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Yeah,.. I happen to like it too.

 

Seems a more elegant solution to a lot of the universe's mysteries than trying to envision a writhing quantum foam occasionally spitting out the odd particle and occasional universe for no good reason.

[Zoom Rabbit]

The foam is useful if you're having a bad hair day...

 

Don't use too much of it, though! Look what happened to Einstein's hair.

 

What I find curious about the current quantum multiverse theory is that it matches the 'subspace' model they put forth in Star Trek. We can add it to the list of 'things they got right' in ST, which now includes cell phones, floppy diskettes and voice interaction with computers.

 

Of course, my computer doesn't listen to me at all. I'm probably not saying anything it wants to hear.

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No, you are just not speaking it's language.

It was most likely made in China or Taiwan...

 

Or if it's a Dell, both those places, as well as Texas.

 

Hmmm... Chinese spoken with a Texas accent... no wonder it can't understand a word you say.

 

[Homuncul]

I didn't like subspace at all. It's more like hyperspace to me, an old men crap of sci fi. Still if they sometime later prove their superstring theory it would be a serious background for considering multiverse worldwide and include it in school books

[Homuncul]

But there's another possible explanation: In an nearby parallel universe an alternate you is performing the experiment at the same time, only choosing the RIGHT slit to fire through. The particles you see as a waveform are actually echoes from those other alternate realities interfering with yours, where history is almost identical, but where you in that reality has chosen to make a single different decision.

 

I love these things. You know that late theories about quantum consciousness are based on these things. They discribe our brain as quantum computer connected to the multiverse counseling him about different decisions.

[Mort-Hog]

More proof!

 

http://brainsluice.tripod.com/moonlanding.html

[|GG|Carl]

Originally posted by Mort-Hog

More proof!

 

http://brainsluice.tripod.com/moonlanding.html

^Bump!

 

 

lol. That's funny!

[Arreat]

Oh come on, how obvious is it? NO ONE LANDED ON THE MOON. I remember watching a documentary of basically the same thing on TLC. They had VERY solid and convincing points. Not only that they even had some points that that site backed up.

 

EDIT: LMAO That site cracked me up!

[Mort-Hog]

Anyone that seriously believes in the NASA conspiracy nonesense needs a solid punch in the face, from a concrete glove, with glowing hot pointy needles sticking out. The 'theories' were developed by the russians right after the moon landing because they were bitter about not being the first to the moon. Still, they were the first into space. Hooray for Sputnik! But anyway, the theories have been thoroughly disproved, and yet some people still spout them. Some Americans, too, spouting Russian propaganda.. It is interesting how this propaganda has spread. Communist propaganda always was so much better than American propaganda. But anyway, every time the theory is spouted, as it has done a dozen times in every message board on every forum in every corner of the internet, the same old points are brought up, and the same old counter-points to disprove them, and yet still it goes on! It is silly.

 

 

If you want a REAL conspiracy, look no further than the Dr. David Kelly 'suicide'...

[Arreat]

How'd you get custom title when your below 1000 posts?

[RoguePhotonic]

Oh no what's this thread doing back! *puts on flame suit*

[The Cheat]

there is no way that conspiracy is true, its a whole bunch of bogus nonsense that somebody made up

[Zoom Rabbit]

THAT!

 

...is the funniest thing I've seen all week! Thanks, Mort-Hog.

 

Dr. David Kelly. Suicide...riiiight. If anyone actually believes that man committed suicide, then also feel free to check my ad on E-Bay, where I have a piece of the True Cross up for bid.

 

Howdy, Roguephotonic. Flame you, sir! FLA-AAAME!

 

Arreat: I believe that the only possible explanation is that our friend here is actually George Lucas, lurking in on his young Star Wars fans. Sorry to blow your cover, George. Take a bow!