camaleon Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 I have seen the film and i liked but at the same time i´ve begun to think that it could be more dificult to do a blockbuster from a MI movie. And all you are right exept that Sparrow is Otis but i still hoping that one day i will see a MI movie... Dead men tell no tales... I think that monkey island movie could be diferent anyway that POTH plot is similar to Monkey Isalnd Story. For example in SMI Guybrush is a teenager and he wants to be a pirat an Will Turner no he does not, Elain is Bigger than Guybrush, and if Meele island is empty is because of LeChuck and that is a part of the story remember all the people is scare and no one in that time wanna be a pirate that is a part of the story, then there are to legends one is the ship with monkeys trained by Herman and the other is LeChucks and Elain story... I think that you can make more fun, that in POTH... And with the films you can fill GAPs that the game has, as you know the film would be a littel diferent to be good for other people. forgive me about my bad english, understand me i'm from México Keep hoping... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 I forgive the bad english, but POTH? Anyway, I saw the movie today. Really enjoyed it, especially the- actually that could be a spoiler. But anyway, I saw no real resemblance to monkey island other that the fact that it had pirates and walking skeletons. The movie seemed to have a much broader look on pirates though as showing them to be called cutthroats for a reason. In the mi world, pirates aren't feared as much as they actually were back then, but POTC sems to hit that hard on the nail. A definate suggestion to movie goers and a lot more bloodshed than any otherdisney movie I've seen so it doesn't hold back at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Yeah I just got back from seeing it too. And the Monkey Island people.. well, I don't think its fair to say Pirates of the Caribbean is much like Monkey Island, because ITS SO MUCH BETTER!! WHAT A MOVIE!! YES!!! And buy the soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabb Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 The soundtrack was kind of boring, I did like the use of pan pipes at the start though. It definitely could've been a little jauntier. I loved the movie though, although clearly not to the extent that Lucastones did. As for all this "games are games, not anything else" talk, I disagree completely. One of the main reasons people play adventure game is to be told a story, which is also one of the reasons people watch films, or television. Granted, there have been no "good" computer-game to movie adaptions, but that's mainly because the games chosen have lacked any sense of story in the first place. Also, because the more popular games are chosen to "adapt", a few million fans of the game are already in the audience.. Also, when you're told that this movie will be about two Italian plumbers having to rescue Princess Toadstool by jumping on the heads of mushrooms and finally confronting a big evil turtle with a spiky shell (Actually, what is Bowser?), and then you'r asked to elaborate, you try doing a good job. I can see a lot of adventure games working in a different format. Grim Fandango would make an interesting four-part drama, Full Throttle could be easily reinterpreted as a movie, and I'd tune in to see the animated adventures of Guybrush Threepwood. In short, some adventure games can be more like movies, or novels, than conventional games. And this doesn't mean I think Monkey Island would make a good movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 The animated adventures of guybrush threepwood would be nice. But I agree on some extent with both of you. It would be quite hard to make a movie primarily around one person who walks around melee island or monkey island on his own. But then, I think the concept of Monkey island could be made into a pretty good movie, if you changed things around. If anything, it could be a pirate spoof movie. It's already halfway there by being a pirate spoof game. Grim fandango and Full Throttle, could both make pretty good movies as they lend themselves so well to screenplays. Again, a lot of the alone time would have to be taken out as well as the tedious and arduous tasks (such as beating up every biker you come across, it could be replaced with a montage of different fights). And of course item finding is a big problem, but the story could still sell by cutting this down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Making a movie of ANY computer game (with the possible exception of Dragon's Lair LOL ) would require a ton of changes. For example: How much fun would it be watching Guybrush decipher the "Dancing Steps" in MI? Than get attacked by an insane clown and rhinocerous in the governor's mansion? Even the sword fighting, which would be a highlight I'm sure, wouldn't really make much sense, as the audience wouldn't really care about Guybrush winning in the same way that WE do (because we're CONTROLLING him!). A lot of the jokes are based on Guybrush saying stupid things and watching the reaction too. But the biggest problem would be that it doesn't really exist in a piratey time. The contents of Grog? Battery Acid and Red Dye #5! POTC was great in that it was an adventure that had a flawless world... it never made references to modern things. Anyhoo, just my 2c It would be very interesting to see an MI script and to see if it DID work or not! ~ John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Well, I'm going to watch the movie again in about 45 mins so I'm going to pay more attention to the music this time. As I remember it, its like Gladiator - both in style and the fact that its awesome. As for games and films.. they're two different things. I mean, yeah they both rely on plot, but the simple fact is that you watch one of them and interact with the other one. I mean, think of the two movies often regarded as the greatest ever: The Godfather and Citizen Kane. Would either of them make a great game? No. Many people think Metal Gear Solid would make a good film - in many ways it would. But think about it - all Snake does is walk around from place to place having fights. Oh well, I dunno. Its obviously not as simple as it sounds - some games might work as movies, and some movies might work as games. I have no doubt that some movies have some great scenes that would transfer brilliantly to the game world - I mean, see the Battle of Hoth in Rogue Leader. However, one scene does not an entire game make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabb Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Of course the Godfather and Citizen Kane wouldn't make great games. But other movies have, such as Blade Runner and Goldeneye, for example. There are many different forms of movies, and no videogame would ever really be considered as an "Art House" title anyway. I could definitely see musicals though, or even adventures. And the whole point of adapting something is changing it to suit the format it's being switched to. For instance, instead of just Ben being thrown into the dumpster, his hyperactive diabetic biking compadre could've been hurled in too, and his insulin may be with the gang. And yes, every single "puzzle" would have to be removed too, leaving some games more intact than others. As for Monkey Island, well a lot of humour in that does derive from interacting with objects, or making Guybrush say stupid things, and it probably wouldn't work too well as a flick. It's not impossible though, you simply give the crew a larger role, remove all the needless characters and tasks, and make it a musical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undesired Posted August 9, 2003 Share Posted August 9, 2003 Originally posted by Btiller And there are no ghost pirates in the POTC ride, just dead skeltons. There are ghosts that call to you from the caves and beg to tell you their stories. Have you ever ridden the ride? A Ghost pirate captain must have coem from MI. Oh yes? Certainly no one ever thought of a ghost pirate prior to 1990 and Monkey Island, you say? This is about the most ill informed piece of drivvel I have ever read in these forums, and most of these guys are under 15. Are you about to claim that the 1960 Scooby Doo Cartoon stole the idea for a ghost pirate from Monkey Island, too? I think I can infer that you've never read any books by Lovecraft, Burroughs, or Stevenson. And the fat and skinny pirate was absultuly taken from CMI. [/b] I remember some the old Max Fleischer cartoons featuring a pair of skeletons--one fat, one skinny. I'll assume that Max Fleischer travelled 70 years into the future and stole the idea from you, shall I? Sir, you have an ego that's as big as all outdoors. But on superficial examination, you are simply a small man who is full of shit. Thanks, laughing boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted August 9, 2003 Share Posted August 9, 2003 People seem to foget that we have a relationship withguybrush as actually thinking ourselves to be him when playing the game. this is why we care so much if he passes these tests or not or rescues elaine. In a movie, it would hjave to actually make us care about him before just jumping in with 'I wanna be a pirate' because chances are, if that were to happen, we wouldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Exactly Mr. Joshi! That's precisely why a film of MI wouldn't work without some SERIOUS revamping. And there are no ghost pirates in the POTC ride, just dead skeltons. What about the skeleton that is steering the ship through the storm? Or the one that is drinking wine (as seen in the movie)? Or the one who is sitting in bed reading a map? Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small j Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I do agree with that thing about MI but Pirates of the Carribbean was alreadya film before and it was taken from the chartoon versoin and I think it was a book. MI could be made in to a film it`s on likely but think about Harry Potter and also Tomb Raider which was a game before so it still could be a movie.I think it would be good and would be very funny if it was made in to a film.It would be hard and it would have to be changed a lot.ie.the conversation because you choose that so it would have to be changed a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by Small j MI could be made in to a film. It's unlikely, but think about Harry Potter and also Tomb Raider which was a game before Yeah, but take a look at the ratings and reviews that Tomb Raider 2, Resident Evil, Tomb Raider 1, Final Fantasy, Street Fighter and Super Mario Bros. got... Do I forget a movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Mortal Kombat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilohoku Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 For starters this board is for fans to have fun. I think it's totally uncooth for you people to come here just to bash other's ideas. I thought comparing the movie to MI was a fun idea, and yes I still think that there are enough similarities that someone who helped in the production of the movie knew a thing or two about MI and swiped a few things here and there and stuck it in the movie. Yes, MI as it is would suck as a movie, but no one in their right mind would leave it as it is to create a movie. things would definately have to be changed. -- duh!!-- Lastly, just because someone wants to have fun and dream that MI had anything to do with the Pirates of the Caribbean movie you should just let them. It's all in fun. I realise that for every opinion (and that's all it is) there is an opposite, but you jerks don't need to go around bashing everyone for spouting off their hopes and dreams. It's folks like you who sit around hammering others down just so you can feel better about your pathetic life. You piss me off!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Wow! Dood, cool down before you blow off someone's head with this babble of yours. Are you just overly sensible or can you name a post that was offensive? To me it seemed like a good discussion. Although some points have been repeatedly said. I will do that as well. Now: We (actually it's you, the guys who saw the movie) agreed on some things, like that the movie and game draw from the same source (the ride), that a MI movie would have to be altered inseveral ways to make a decent movie and that most game to movie projects were not as good as was hoped for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Originally posted by kilohoku For starters this board is for fans to have fun. I think it's totally uncooth for you people to come here just to bash other's ideas. I thought comparing the movie to MI was a fun idea, and yes I still think that there are enough similarities that someone who helped in the production of the movie knew a thing or two about MI and swiped a few things here and there and stuck it in the movie. The starter of this post stated that POTC ripped off MOnkey island completely. as a person, they are entitled to their opinions, but then so are we, and we simply expressed them. It seems the only one around here 'bashing people' is you. i]Originally posted by kilohoku [/i] It's all in fun. I realise that for every opinion (and that's all it is) there is an opposite, but you jerks don't need to go around bashing everyone for spouting off their hopes and dreams. It's folks like you who sit around hammering others down just so you can feel better about your pathetic life. thank you for your imput, now kindly apologise to all of us you called jerks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mods Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 You know what, I feel like writing and directing a MI fan film ^_^ Mmm. m0ds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Originally posted by ThunderPeel2001 Making a movie of ANY computer game (with the possible exception of Dragon's Lair LOL ) would require a ton of changes. For example: How much fun would it be watching Guybrush decipher the "Dancing Steps" in MI? Than get attacked by an insane clown and rhinocerous in the governor's mansion? Any conversion from one medium to another would require tons of changes. When that happens, you're probably bound to lose a couple of die hard fans who should just stick with the original anyway, but as long as you get the major themes for the characters right, as well as maintain the atmosphere of the original, you'll probably succeed. See the XMen films and Lord of the Rings movies for this (well with the exception of some of the second half of the Two Towers, where they did muddle with the characters themes and sort of broke them). If a Monkey Island film were made, of course things like jokes involving the SCUMM interface controlling itself behind the wall wouldn't be put in, but a good screenwriter could come up with a successful alternative scene that had "movie" equivilents of the same feelings and joke style. Same with insult swordfighting. That joke is sold in the game because you have to actually go around collecting them, which would seem boring on film. You'd have to put some sort of twist on it, or resort to an evil montage, but the general idea would still be sound. And to pull back one step further from that, just the idea of "a world where pirate swordfights are won by who has the better comeback instead of who is handier with their sword" would be a good enough roadmap to do it right in the hands of a screenwriter who knew what they were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Yep, Jake, you're right, it COULD be done if someone were good enough... Pirates of the Carribean is actually a great example of what you're saying... Excellent movie based on a few loose ideas. It'd take someone with the exact right focus to make MI good though (I agree it could be done though!). It's folks like you who sit around hammering others down just so you can feel better about your pathetic life. You piss me off!! You have 23 posts. I have 336. I OUTRANK you! Now be quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 There's nothing too wrong with a montage, as long as it isn't accompanied by a god awful song. I mean I love Disney, but do that really have to do that? BUt yes, in the hands of a truley great film maker or director (of course we all remember Speilbergs attempt at pirates, so not all good directors can do different genres) could this. Also in the game, we repeatedly go back to the same place in order to do things (the cannibles vilage) which would seem tiresome and tedious on film (what am I saying, it was tiresome and tedious in the game, if only when we actually replay the game and know we have to go back after doing something else). But a good monkey island film is doable, just not likely, not at least in the enar future. Originally posted by ThunderPeel2001 You have 23 posts. I have 336. I OUTRANK you! Now be quiet And this ladies and gentlemen is how we do things here on LF. Thank you and good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 No way! Those cannibals were hilarious!! They were vegetarian!! Also, posts: quality, not quantity. So I guess I should win, cos all my posts rock.. except this one.... damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Originally posted by LucasTones Also, posts: quality, not quantity. So I guess I should win, cos all my posts rock.. except this one.... damn Was that directed at me? and I wasn't saying we should get risd of the freakin cannibles, why the hell do you think I play through all of the beginning of SOMI? NO, But an audience wouldn't like seeing the cannible,s going off somewhere and then coming back to them in five minutes time, it's too stupid and only just works in the game. But yeah, I'm all for cannibles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 It wasn't directed at you, I was just joining in the fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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