ragou Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 You might think that Hollywood would blame the producers, directors and script writers for the bad movies they are making. No, they blame instant messaging so their marketing isn't as useful as it used to be. http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/news/story.jsp?story=434778 No, the executives are not blaming such bombs as The Hulk, Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle or Gigli on poor quality, lack of originality, or general failure to entertain. There's absolutely nothing new about that. The problem, they say, is teenagers who instant message their friends with their verdict on new films - sometimes while they are still in the cinema watching - and so scuppering carefully crafted marketing campaigns designed to lure audiences out to a big movie on its opening weekend. "In the old days, there used to be a term, 'buying your gross,' " Rick Sands, chief operating officer at Miramax, told the Los Angeles Times. "You could buy your gross for the weekend and overcome bad word of mouth, because it took time to filter out into the general audience." Hollywood sure is a strange place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 It should instill in them the need to produce more quality then, if that's the case. Will it? NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanukitsune Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Are you saying bad movies are doing bad because people find out quicker than before how bad they are with SMS? How stupid, if I SMS all my friends to tell them whats good and what is not and they FOLLOWED MY ADVICE then Jackie Chan and Bruce Campbell movies would be at the Nº1 of the charts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragou Posted August 23, 2003 Author Share Posted August 23, 2003 Originally posted by Curt It should instill in them the need to produce more quality then, if that's the case. Will it? NO! That sentence is quite original and interesting. But I don't quite see what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Originally posted by ragou That sentence is quite original and interesting. But I don't quite see what it means. hehe! Well, it could mean that maybe the movie producers, facing apparent reduced profits (not that many Hollywood movies actually make a loss), would then start to invest less money in their movies, possibly reducing the quality. But that's only if you believe that the more expensive movies are the best quality, which often they are not. My heart bleeds when money-making movies bomb because they're just commercial bandwagons with no depth, character or quality and they get found out before people hand over their money. My estimate - expect lots of spam SMS in the future randomly distributed to your mobile phones expressing how good their movies are just prior to release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleto4_ryan Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 *laughs like mad and fells from the chair LOL Hollywood is incridible..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragou Posted August 23, 2003 Author Share Posted August 23, 2003 Originally posted by Curt My estimate - expect lots of spam SMS in the future randomly distributed to your mobile phones expressing how good their movies are just prior to release. Yes, but they'll need to send a helluvalot SMS:s if they're going to get masses of people watching the movies (I wonder if they'll get reduced price for sending so many ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomStLeger Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Not even SMS could save Tomb raider 2 :r My heart bleeds too, as I think of those poor underpaid hollywood movie stars and executives who are finding people are finally finding ways of avoiding crap films. (P.S. I love the apparent logic of the Hollywood executive. It doesn't matter that the film is crap, it matters WHEN people find out its crap. Where would be without hollywood eh *) *Probably leading happy lives in a utopian society of generosity and hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanukitsune Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Originally posted by DomStLeger Not even SMS could save Tomb raider 2 :r My heart bleeds too, as I think of those poor underpaid hollywood movie stars and executives who are finding people are finally finding ways of avoiding crap films. (P.S. I love the apparent logic of the Hollywood executive. It doesn't matter that the film is crap, it matters WHEN people find out its crap. Where would be without hollywood eh *) *Probably leading happy lives in a utopian society of generosity and hope Is Tomb Raider that bad? I won tickets to the pre-screening! Wait aren't we doing the same thing but in a internet forum? Today at the 9:00 news Hollywood not only blames SMS for movies doing pootly but Web Forums too! A Hollywood executive says "We must stop people from finding out that a movie sucks too soon! Therefore we will now SUE anybody who says a movie sucks before we have milked the cow!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homoludens Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 So basically, the corporate suits of Hollywood are pissed at us consumers because we've found a new way to outsmart them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twifkak Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Yes. For a while, they could use TV commercials, movie previews, and hand-in-pocket movie reviewers to lie to us, and now we've found some channels of truth. But I still think it's just a ploy by the cellular companies to hype up SMS, which is sorely underutilized in the US (mostly because the rates are outrageous). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomStLeger Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Originally posted by Homoludens So basically, the corporate suits of Hollywood are pissed at us consumers because we've found a new way to outsmart them? Not a hard thing to do is it... And one day they will realise that it is Adventuregamers Forum that makes or breaks a film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattsius Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Originally posted by DomStLeger one day they will realise that it is Adventuregamers Forum that makes or breaks a film! Yes, but they won't have the courage to go up against an authority as powerful as Adventuregamers Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamandMax Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 All this is a good thing. It'll force them to back better movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragou Posted August 25, 2003 Author Share Posted August 25, 2003 Originally posted by SamandMax All this is a good thing. It'll force them to back better movies. No, they will probably try to make better advertising campaigns instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 They could use SMS to their advantage and get a large group of people to assembly outside a designated point, say a large cinema theatre, then issue instructions to pay and enter the theatre, then all to sit down and watch the screen for, say, 98mins whereby the cinema will proceed to play the latest Hollywood blockbuster, Flash Gordon- The Accumulator (Part 7). Hey, they could even give it a cool new name - Flashmobbing. (or brainwashing ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homoludens Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 audience: "Aaaaargggghhh!!!" [flips out their cell phones, calls up all their friends, and tells 'em how bad that joke from Curt was] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJKO Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Originally posted by ragou No, they will probably try to make better advertising campaigns instead. *horrible Blair Witch Project flashbacks!* Oh, the pain! THE PAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twifkak Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Originally posted by Homoludens audience: "Aaaaargggghhh!!!" [flips out their cell phones, calls up all their friends, and tells 'em how bad that joke from Curt was] No, no, no, they'll be texting all their friends. Because it's more convenient. You know. To press 9983325551333237770223222566223399. Much easier than talking. Technology is spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homoludens Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 'Curt is teh suxx0rz' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixor Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Originally posted by twifkak No, no, no, they'll be texting all their friends. Because it's more convenient. You know. To press 9983325551333237770223222566223399. Much easier than talking. Technology is spectacular. I really, really hope you didn't actually bother finding out what the sequence of numbers would be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanukitsune Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Originally posted by remixor I really, really hope you didn't actually bother finding out what the sequence of numbers would be... Why? Is it something naugthy? Wink wink, nudge nudge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twifkak Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 That's right, if you decode it, you'll find it says "Pop, pop, fizz, fizz, oh, what a relief it is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomStLeger Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 3338822255! A whole new language! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGZanthia Posted August 27, 2003 Share Posted August 27, 2003 Or a whole new code. No, they will probably try to make better advertising campaigns instead. It won't help them much. The more people come to film, the more sms they send, the more people know how bad film is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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