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  1. @ Adavardes: You make it sound as if web forums are dead and buried... they're not. There are a lot of forums around the net that still exist and still thrive. The big difference between those forums and LF is that their subject matter continued to be relevant and people stayed on topic with the subject matter. And as I've described before, when people stay on subject matter and have a lot to talk about, they don't notice any of the restrictions because no one is fussed about going on some bull**** quest for their right to free speech. Why? Because all anyone really wanted to talk about was Star Wars games instead of freedom of speech. It's only when the discussions start to disappear, that's when we start to have people thinking about other things. Sure, there have been drama's in LF for quite a while, since the start even. But they were all washed away quickly because people got back to talking about what was truly important in this place... video games. And don't take this the wrong way either, I'm not against free speech. Many of you never realised it, but I had actually quit being a member of staff because I had a major disagreement with certain people in the moderation staff in LF about the way they were conducting themselves by deleting peoples posts and doing all manner of things I didn't agree with. I didn't just exile myself, I had the admins take away my permissions and reduce me back down to a member. This lasted for over a year, but after that I returned because I didn't want to see this place die a slow death. When I came back after a year, I tried to do the best I could to get life back into this place, but I ultimately failed at doing that due to the lack of support. One person can't reinvigorate this place, it needs to be a group who is dedicated to the task. And again, I've gone over ALL of this in my previous posts. As for social networks... you talk about it as if it has lots of upsides but no downsides. There are MANY downsides to social networks and it's one of the big reasons why web forums still exist today. Web forums are closed, they're restrictive both in the topics that members talk about and in the way members are expected to conduct themselves. However, you are wrong about the moderators in a web forum being a negative and that it makes things too restrictive. Think of it this way, in many social media platforms that have more freedoms for their users, there are a lot more trolls and a lot more people who are free to act like asshats and prey on normal folk. This is a common occurrence and it often results in things like cyber-bullying which greatly affects the lives of younger people on the Internet. I should know a lot about this since I'm an Information Technology teacher at a high school and I have to go through this with all of my students during years 7 through to 9. However, that's not the only issue. The OTHER issue is that since there aren't any formal moderators for social networking sites, it then falls to actual law enforcement agencies to police them. There have been many cases where actual charges have been brought up against people for things they've said and done on social media that have led to fines and even prison time. You say you should be able to say "**** the system" sure, I agree with that. But at least recognise why the system for older style web forums exist. We have people volunteering to moderate this place so that we can take care of our business ourselves and not have the many cases of social media asshattery happening with rampant trolling and government/law enforcement involvement. The moderators exist to funnel discussion in a certain direction, and no, this isn't a bad thing. When a web forum works, when people talk about the topic, they're too busy talking about the common interests of that forum to start anything that lasts for more than a few days. At most, you'll have people get angry at each other about how long Yoda's ears should be. So sure, you can spout your "row row fight tha powah!" all you want, but when this place did work, no one cared anything about their right to freedom of speech, cause the thing they wanted to talk freely about was simple: video games. @ Taak Farst: You completely misinterpreted my "outburst" so I'll say it simply. You guys talk too much. I'm not saying that everyone should become mods and admins, however, if there are certain people amongst you who are passionate enough about this and want to save this place, you have to DO SOMETHING! As for Adavardes question: No one has contacted Disney because no one is active to contact Disney in the first place. That's why I said in my previous post, if you want to do something, contact the entire admin list, say that you want to become staff members and actually do something with this place and get something done. If you guys actually manage to do that, I'll support you guys with whatever you do, I don't even care if you wipe away this entire place and start fresh, just as long as you guys DO SOMETHING! Because, truly and honestly, there is no one left on the staff who is doing anything here aside from clearing away spam bots. And as I've stated a billion times before, the LucasArts Fan Network is more than just LucasForums. So if one or more of you actually does do SOMETHING, I hope you think more than just about LucasForums itself. Of course, part of me doesn't believe any of you will do anything... you're just waiting for someone else to stand up and do something. And perhaps, there is one person who does stand up... but one person is not enough. I know because I was that one person before, and I even managed to get a few more people, but even that isn't enough, it has to be A LOT of people who are 100% dedicated to the cause.
  2. So all this talk of "overthrowing the old admins"... have any of you considered private messaging the entire admin list to get them to give you positions in which you can actually do something about this as staff members instead of just talking about this as members from the sidelines? Who knows, something actually might come of it if you actually DO something. Do you know how I became a staff member after joining this place in 1999 as a member? I TOLD them to make me part of the staff. I didn't ask. EDIT: Also, get this whole thing about the admins being some kind of cabal designed to keep anyone who isn't "friends" with them down. None of us actually know each other and this whole image people have is complete bull****. That's just an excuse people make to justify why they're not "chosen" to become a staff member. No one is chosen, they just contact whoever and tell them they want to do something with LF and chances are, they'll get in. And it's also not about the admins liking or not liking the person either. When I told them to make me a staff member, a lot of people in staff didn't quite like me and thought of me as this annoying kid who didn't know when to shut up. Yet, here I am. I guess the moral of the story is: Don't deflect your way to obscurity, bludgeon your way to victory! ...or something.
  3. @ Adavardes: Without going into all of the asshattery in the past, the admins were never trying to be unreasonable... and let's not pretend some of the members who had a problem with the admins were being reasonable people. The ugly truth that no one wants to admit is that we were ALL being asshats and no one wanted to say that they were wrong, all they wanted to do was try to convince people that everyone else but them were being asshats. What I'm trying to say in context to this discussion is that all of that occurred, not because people were being unreasonable, whether they admins, mods or members, it's because the culture of LF changed due to the change of its size and activity. It went from being a metropolis of activity to a small town in a short amount of time. With that came a culture change in the way people conducted discussions on the forum. Discussions use to be frequent and so rapid firing that we didn't have time to rub each other the wrong way with our varied personalties. However, once this place became a small town, suddenly, we got a little too personal with each other and discovered, we may not like each other all that much and that some of our personalities don't quite match up. Don't go fooling yourself either. With larger platforms, there are more rules and more restrictive rules than anything we ever placed on LF. The reason why it feels less restrictive is they're just that... larger platforms. It only SEEMS like there are less rules because there is A LOT more activity. When LF was still large and busy with tonnes of activity, we didn't seem as unreasonable back then simply because so much was going on that no one had the time to complain about anything since so much discussion was being had about a variety of different subjects. No one had time to get into petty arguments about nothing.
  4. At least we don't actually get to see him since he's wearing an alien costume.
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  6. http://www.lucasforums.com/member.php?u=8 Here's the person to bug then. He started a "let's doo eet!" thread in the admin forum and then went silent... as is tradition on LFN, apparently.
  7. I regret randomly clicking into this thread and seeing this asshattery now *facepalm*
  8. I'm really enjoying Tales From the Borderlands... I'm also enjoying Life Is Strange. Both of these episodic games are really doing it for me right now.
  9. lol... Yeah, people say that and then expect someone else to do it for them.
  10. When I was a kid back in Primary School, my friends and I would "play Star Wars" during recess. My friends would always pick to be Han Solo or Luke Skywalker and all the cool characters and they would always try to make me be Artoo or Threepio. I refused, of course. Instead of being an existing character, I had the imagination to come up with my own character, an X-Wing pilot named Lynk Former. However, I didn't start off as Lynk Former here on RogueSquadron.net (before the forums were merged into one big forum to create LucasForums), I originally joined as "Corran Horn" because I had just read the X-Wing novels at the time. Not long after, I did change over to the Lynk Former name though and it's the name that has stuck with me on the Internet.
  11. I like how they're inspired by Ralph's art yet again with the Vader design and using the red eyes like in ANH. Really adds to the oldskool charm of the design.
  12. http://www.lucasforums.com/showgroups.php List of Administrators are listed here at the top. Which one should you harass? Why not ALL OF THEM? Everyone should be bugging them, not just the ones who have the time/skill/motivation to help.
  13. What we accomplished with the new jknet can still be used. I hope the people involved don't feel like it was a waste, because it can still be salvaged. While you feel that we were too pumped on the whole thing, I did plan everything out well in advance of coming for help with that thread I made. We're talking the span of a year here, I didn't just start the thread on a whim. But yes, organisation is the main factor and is relating to what I was talking about. 0 admins means 0 people who have the necessary access to the various things in LFN meant that nothing further could be organised in the process that I had set out. Even if the people who I had gathered together had been able to organise themselves somehow, they still would have lacked the necessary access to get things done. That requires higher level access from existing staff. The innards of LFN are a lot more complicated than they seem, unfortunately. So here are the problems we face right now. 1. The current staff are made up of people who either don't have the time, don't have the motivation, or don't have the skill to do anything about this. 2. People are too afraid of change, the mention of such change makes people think of the worst case scenario. 3. There are no new staff who can take the place of the old staff. I think that if enough people step up, those new people have a MUCH better chance of doing something great with this place than us older staff. That last point is where it's all at, at least, that's what I believe. The old staff don't do anything. Of course, mim does come around every so often to clear out the spam bots, but that's not what I mean. What I mean is that we once had a very active staff presence on LFN who did a range of different things throughout the network, now all the people on that staff page list are all pretty much inactive. At most, they come in and check things out around the forum every now and then. LFN needs to fall to a new generation of people who do have the time, the motivation and the skills to run this place if it wants to become relevant again. And just to point this out again since people tend to be LucasForum-centric in their ideas of what LFN is, this is about more than just the forums.
  14. @ igyman: The big reason jknet failed to take off was because my free time got cut down drastically once I reached the final year of uni. It's no better now that I'm a teacher. The entire problem is that I was the only admin on the project and with my free time gone, suddenly there were 0 admins on the project because the others weren't interested in helping out. I too want this place to live on, but realistically, if we're to work on any project to get things running, we need a lot more support than what we had, which was just me trying to support a group of people by myself. The task is way too big for such small numbers. To be even more blunt here. I don't think there's any hope of LFN left simply because people aren't willing to do anything about it. Everyone is waiting for someone else to take a stand and do something... which ends up with everyone at a standstill, doing nothing.
  15. And that's what I've been doing. Changing things gradually, it's been a very hard process to get all of this stuff done and it's been happening in waves. The first step was to consolidate all the fan sites into a single site and to find people who were interested to make that happen and to take it step by step. Once that phase was complete, the second step was to go through the forum, again, step by step, plan everything in advance, get everyone involved, etc, etc. To put it bluntly, I knew what I was doing, I'm not an idiot. However, I'll put this down since you see me as an Administrator and not as a regular member of the forum who can't see your side of the argument. I didn't start off as a staff member here, I was a regular member, and I joined for the same reasons you guys joined, the forums. I found roguesquadron.net and I wasn't so much interested in the content as I was the community. I too rarely went to the fansites, I only looked at the forum because that's where all the people were. That doesn't mean that the fan sites aren't important, they were, because they attracted many other people to the forums. It's the sites that attracted people and they stayed for the forum. If we are to reboot LFN, this strategy is still sound. And again, I chose to work on the fansite stuff first because, if anything screws up, we won't have done irreversible damage, or at least, hard to fix damage since it's much harder to load a forum backup than anything else around here. Furthermore, the fan sites are more important now than they were in the past simply because of the changing nature of the Internet, nowadays, people expect content, not just from the forums. But the important thing you guys need to know is how I became a staff member. I was brazen enough to TELL the staff to make me a staff member, saying that I wanted to do stuff with the site and forum. And they let me. If you guys have ideas about what you want to do with this place and want to become staff, go bug the admins like I did. Alexrd, you sound like you have plans, why don't you become staff and enact them?
  16. That's because the servers are down and no one has actually taken the time to fix them. I can't go into the details, but the troubling thing is that those sites can be brought back online but no one seems to care any more. As for the single site, my last attempt was to have a consolidated Star Wars site and the project did go ahead with help from a few people who volunteered. That site was going to use the domain jediknight.net and I did create a thread about it in Ahto if you want to go look for it. We got pretty far in the project too, we actually did get all that information consolidated into the one site. However, the problem was that we didn't have any long-term backing from the other staff on LFN and I had just finished uni and started teaching which meant my time had run out to be on the frontlines of this entire process. That meant the only active admin working on anything suddenly became too busy to deal with such a huge undertaking. After all, what's the point of consolidating all that information if the site isn't going to be active with new articles and reviews and such being posted regularly? I had a few people who were prepared to help out in that regard, but there was still not enough people to actually make this work over a long period of time. The foundations are set though, I set them up myself with the excellent help of the people who volunteered. Working out the site is a billion times more important than the forum because it's MUCH, MUCH harder to organise the people and the infrastructure to handle it on a long term basis than restructuring a forum. It's the glue that is going to make this entire thing work in the first place because it's the fansite(s) that actually drew all these people to these individual communities to snowball into LucasForums to begin with. All that information and articles and reviews and such. If we reboot this place, we'd have to work our way back from obscurity the same way. But I understand your point of view. You're looking at this from the view of preserving history and not building new and untested infrastructure. That's why LucasForums, for you, is the more important thing, but think of it this way... if you work on the forum first and then things fail, it's impossible to change it back and you've killed the forum. If you work on the site first and it fails, you don't end up killing the forum. As for "what can be done right now"... absolutely nothing. But that's not what you should be worried about. I said to give ideas and to pressure those who are in charge to look at your ideas and to recognise that you want SOMETHING done. Then, at the very least, they would be more willing to actually do something to begin with. Right now we're talking as if our words will magically just happen, I say the forum is going to be restructured and I snap my fingers and it happens all of a sudden. Nope. That's a fairy tale. The first step is to convince the people who have power that something should be done to begin with... and I feel giving out ideas along with the registration of interest would help go a long way to doing that. Don't worry about how it's going to get done, just tell them what you WANT.
  17. I'm not trying to be a dick, Alex, but I've already been through this with people who actually have power to do things around here and got shot down for even thinking it, I don't particularly want to go through the blow-by-blow plans over again with people who can't really do much about it in the first place. What I will say is that I do have a forum structure laid out, at least the initial drafts as well as the condition that we'd run it by the community first and get their word in on how they want things structured. In short, you wouldn't lose any of the important modding community stuff or the fan works stuff because those forums and threads can be copied and put into the newly structured forum as well. For example, all the kotor series modding stuff can be copied over to the modding forum in the consolidated forum, etc. Also, you're seeing this from a LucasForums-only perspective and not the larger LucasArts Fan Network perspective. The plan I had in mind involved consolidating all of the individual fan sites, to which these communities are all based on, as a singular entity under single banner for all Star Wars games. The other side of the coin, the non-Star Wars LA games would be handled by Mojo, but that's another story/can of worms entirely. In short, it's a job that's too big for one person and too scary for people to accept because they're afraid things will change too much to take the risk. However, I do make compromise after compromise and still people don't want things to change to the point where I just sit back and say, "you don't actually want anything to be done then cause we've compromised ourselves back to where we began." Man, this is depressing. I mean, come on, at least I've been throwing out ideas for the last decade or so. How about you or someone else throw out ideas for once. Throw out ideas and bug the other admins about them.
  18. Okay, I think I know where the connection isn't meeting. When I say "new forum" I still mean THIS forum, LucasForums, using vBulletin. All I'm saying is that we take the entire forum and move it like we did the SWGalaxies.net forum into an "Archived" section, make it viewable to everyone but closed for any further posting. Then, as I said, any of the active and relevant threads can be moved into the new sections we create, like existing and important mod threads that are still valuable. This would be a process that everyone is welcome to be a part of since we want to keep all those resources alive. Same goes for the fan works stuff. To make it clear, we won't be LOSING any resources, the links will all be the same, when you click a link on google, it'll still take you to the same thread, it'll just be, structurally, in a new place in the forum. We can also rig it that so if people want to post in that thread in the archived LF, they are given a message that tells them they can post about this topic in a corresponding active forum and can even link back to the thread that they found and want to talk about. Also, if you search for threads, all those archived threads will still be searchable, it's the same forum, except the old has been put into an archived state so that a new foundation can be put down that streamlines the community into one unified community instead of lots of tiny ones.
  19. I wouldn't move or merge any of the existing forums. I'd just straight up archive LF as it is and start fresh. And yes, views only... I understand your objection, which is the objection others had which is why this place will never change and nothing will happen. People are too afraid of change to the point where they'd rather this place died a slow death in obscurity than try to take a chance for renewed life. That, and as I've been explaining over and over, there's no one who wants to take on the challenge to begin with.
  20. Archived doesn't mean inaccessible. Also, if there are any threads that are still active that would need to be transferred into the active forum, that can easily be done. Overall, the idea is to create a forum structure that isn't a hundred little empty communities. But yes, that's about the reaction I get all the time. People always seem to think I want to delete everything for some reason... the guy who has the highest post count in the entire forum.
  21. To put it simply, the LucasArts Fan Network needs a reboot. We need to archive all of the old and build something new from the ground up. There are a few things preventing that from happening. 1. Lack of an available group of people who have the skills and/or time to accomplish this. 2. People holding onto nostalgia that value the old more than wanting to build something new. 3. Lack of leadership. To be perfectly blunt, that's not me, I'm the guy who can build you a thing, but I am no leader. I have a certain vision of things I'd like to be built, but it's pretty clear that I can't make them happen, at least not by myself. 4. Motivation. I've tried a few times to do something and each time has failed which has shut down a lot of my motivation. That's how it is for me, as for everyone else, I don't really know what their motivations are in relation to LFN. Are people content just to have an empty archive of the past? I'm sure there are many who do want to do something, but feel like they have no power to do anything about this situation. As for my particular vision of the new LFN. As I said, I would like to archive all the old stuff, put them in a subdomain legacy.lfnetwork.com so that people still have their memories intact in an archive. As for LucasForums, again, I would archive everything in a section of the forum that is closed to all further posting. Then I'd start a new set of forums that starts us on, basically, a blank slate. It's radical, it's risky, but it's a chance for a new beginning. Also, anything we have left of value, such as mod threads, etc, we would take with us to the newer version of the forum. We'd build that new forum to fit the needs of the people who still use this place, but most importantly... we get rid of the old system of segregating communities into domains of old long gone domains. For example, the xwingalliance.net community... a great community... but LFN doesn't actually own the xwingalliance.net domain any more, the people in charge of renewing domains let it expire. The old communities are gone now, they're dead. It makes no sense to hold onto them any more as they are. Of course, this is all hollow talk without the people needed to make it happen to begin with. We HAD a lot of staff members who were active and doing a lot of different things to maintain LFN... now we have no one, at least not enough. Am I repeating stuff I've already said a million times? I am, aren't I. ANYWAY (this post is longer than I intended it to be lol) What I'm trying to say is that if you're not content with this place being... THIS, a passive archive of the late 90s, early 00s, then bug the admins. Contact them, PM them constantly, let them know that you want this place to come back to life. Online stalk them if you have to so that they pay attention. If you're unhappy with LFN dying a slow death, it's up to you to let them know and tell them that you want them to do something about it.
  22. I'll be blunt. I'm the ONLY higher up that actually tries to do anything these days, but I'm not enough. If this place is to be revitalised, it needs the higher ups to work as a team to make it happen, which is NOT happening because I seem to be the only one to really go far enough to do SOMETHING. If you guys want to get this place back on track again, I suggest you AGGRESSIVELY bug the other admins about this in any way you can contact them. Sitting back and being passive, waiting for something to happen isn't going to cut it any more. I want to do something good for this place, but I can't do it as the only admin doing something.
  23. LucasArts is still around, the brand name exists and is being used with Star Wars games. You will see the LucasArts logo at the start of all those games being made by EA along with any other Star Wars games that are made in the future. This place still represents all that past history and can represent the future of Star Wars games that falls under that LucasArts name and logo. Disney is BIG on milking Star Wars for all its worth so we'll definitely see a lot more Star Wars games in the future, not just the handful we know of coming from EA. LFN doesn't have to die, we just need the people power to remake these old ruins of a place into something new and relevant for 2015 onwards. Too many people are thinking of the past and not enough are thinking of the future. And out of the people thinking of the future, not enough either have the time or the skill enough to help out and prepare LFN for that future. There is SO MUCH we can capitalise on that is coming in the future that can revitalise this place and make it packed full of Star Wars fans again, we just need to get enough people together with the time and skill to make it happen to begin with. And yes, we also need to let go of some of the things from the past to do it.
  24. I've got a lot of plans, but sadly, what is missing is a force large enough to enact it and support (from within the high ranking staff) deep enough to make sure it goes all the way through in long term measures. The most I can do is manage to gather up a small group of people enough to get the ball rolling, but getting the ball rolling is never enough. To get things back on track again, big changes need to be made and there are too many roadblocks in the way to do any of what needs to be done. After trying to revitalise this place time and time again, I've finally gotten it through my thick skull that it's going to take a lot more than myself and a handful of others to do it. *sighs* It's really frustrating.
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